Game Thread Lady Vols Softball Team week 10

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Herosports, which was previously Barrett or somesuch, is a smart site and has us in the top 10--number 9, I think. That was before tonight's loss, however.
 
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armchair said:
Herosports, which was previously Barrett or somesuch, is a smart site and has us in the top 10--number 9, I think. That was before tonight's loss, however.
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We've been cheated the past few weeks in the rankings. No way we should have been #17 heading into the Georgia series. We took 2 of 3 but I wouldn't be surprised if we stay at #17 but in all reality we should jump up to at least #13. I would've said top 10 if we swept them but we didn't.
 
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Location and speed; Matty didn't locate her pitches as well as the other day, and her fastball didn't have as much pop for whatever reasons (I think the fastest pitches she threw tonight were around 67-68 mph not like 70-71 mph heat she threw the other day). Every time she challenged the GA hitters inside she got hammered. They were whiffing against those pitches Saturday. But, I like the way how she responded after the rocky 2nd inning, and finished strong the rest of way. This bodes well for the future, and it will serve as another good learning experience going forward. I think Ralph and Karen handled Matty very well tonight. As Vols4life mentioned, I was also glad to see Bush in a game. For the life of me, I cannot figure out why she's been so inconsistent in the circle this year. Last outing was positive, and I expected a better result tonight. But Bria was put in a tough spot and it wasn't easy to pitch well under the duress with so little game experience to rely on. She will get better. :)

Mission accomplished in Athens; the team went there go get 2 out of 3, and they won the series against a top-10 team at their home field. Well done. RPI improved, and our chance of hosting a regional is well within our grasp now. Hosting a super regional which seemed like a remote chance about a month ago is also very realistic, and I dare say likely at this point as long as the team continues to get better, and I think they will.
 
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Bush had a rough night....Hopefully in time she will become a dominant pitcher like she was in HS...
 
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Happy to win the series hopefully we can win the last couple SEC series. I had us at 15 and 9 in the SEC before the season looks like we can beat that record.
 
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tonybologna said:
Top 16? They were #17 heading into the series. Should be top 10 like I said. Did you have a typo?
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No typos. Tennessee was ranked number 19 and swept the top-10 team and moved up only two spots. In this series with Georgia they didn't sweep so how many spots are they going to move up? The posters have cheated Tennessee a bit in the rankings I don't expect them to move into the top 10. When I said top 16 I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek but still yet they should be ranked higher than they are but for some reason the pollsters disagree.
 
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Vols4life said:
Bigger picture Jeff...they will be alright...and it was good to see Bush get in you may see her again against Furman later this week and against some of the other teams we play besides Oklahoma....Moss got bitter by being thrown in the fire...this team will be alright it's all about getting a top 16 seed then trying to get top 8
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Yeah but I'm greedy. I wanted that sweep. :) I wanted the sweep against Missouri. I'm still ticked at how they gift-wrapped and handed two games to Missouri. But I'm not too greedy. I only wanted 1 against Florida (didn't get it) and I'll settle for 2 against Auburn.

This team is sooo close.

By the way...I hope Moss isn't too "bitter". :p (I liked your typo!)
 
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Here are the current SEC standings.

TN in 4th place but tied for 5th in the loss column with Georgia. If they can win 4 of the last 6 and end up 16-8 that may be good enough for a 4 seed and a bye in the SEC tournament.

Alabama in 5th place overall still has series' with Kentucky and Georgia (plus SC). I don't think Alabama loses 3. Best bet is for Alabama to sweep Kentucky at home to give Kentucky 8 losses.

But then Kentucky finishes at home against MSU and Kentucky if they sweep that series finishes with 8 losses (same as I'm projecting TN)

Georgia has to go to Alabama and Auburn - no way Georgia comes out of that with less than 3 losses and maybe 4. That would give Georgia 9 or 10 losses.

Missouri is sitting at 8 losses and finishes with A&M, MSU, and SC. They'll lose at least 1 or 2 for 9 or 10 losses on the season.

TN can't afford to lose more than 2 more if they want that 4th place finish and a first round bye. Even with only 2 more losses they may be tied for 4th with Kentucky and I don't know who owns the tiebreaker as the two teams are not facing each other in the regular season.

It's getting close!!

Florida..........12-3
Auburn.........12-3
Kentucky.......13-5
Tennessee.....12-6
Alabama........10-5
Georgia.........9-6
Missouri.........6-8
Texas A&M......6-9
Ole Miss.........6-9
LSU...............7-11
South Car........5-10
Miss State.......3-12
Arkansas.........1-14
 
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What are the prognosticators saying about how many more wins that it will take to host a regional ?? Would winning out and then winning the SEC tourney result in hosting a Super regional ?? What say ye of all softball knowledge ??
 
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alexvol said:
What are the prognosticators saying about how many more wins that it will take to host a regional ?? Would winning out and then winning the SEC tourney result in hosting a Super regional ?? What say ye of all softball knowledge ??
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I'm not a prognosticator but I play at being one!

Unless the team flames out I think they get a regional with no problem.

If they win out the season and the tournament they will definitely be awarded a super-regional IMO.
 
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LVJeff said:
I'm not a prognosticator but I play at being one!

Unless the team flames out I think they get a regional with no problem.

If they win out the season and the tournament they will definitely be awarded a super-regional IMO.
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The odds of winning out are really,really long but that is the only way they get a Super Regional imo.
 
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LVJeff said:
Here are the current SEC standings.

TN in 4th place but tied for 5th in the loss column with Georgia. If they can win 4 of the last 6 and end up 16-8 that may be good enough for a 4 seed and a bye in the SEC tournament.

Alabama in 5th place overall still has series' with Kentucky and Georgia (plus SC). I don't think Alabama loses 3. Best bet is for Alabama to sweep Kentucky at home to give Kentucky 8 losses.

But then Kentucky finishes at home against MSU and Kentucky if they sweep that series finishes with 8 losses (same as I'm projecting TN)

Georgia has to go to Alabama and Auburn - no way Georgia comes out of that with less than 3 losses and maybe 4. That would give Georgia 9 or 10 losses.

Missouri is sitting at 8 losses and finishes with A&M, MSU, and SC. They'll lose at least 1 or 2 for 9 or 10 losses on the season.

TN can't afford to lose more than 2 more if they want that 4th place finish and a first round bye. Even with only 2 more losses they may be tied for 4th with Kentucky and I don't know who owns the tiebreaker as the two teams are not facing each other in the regular season.

It's getting close!!

Florida..........12-3
Auburn.........12-3
Kentucky.......13-5
Tennessee.....12-6
Alabama........10-5
Georgia.........9-6
Missouri.........6-8
Texas A&M......6-9
Ole Miss.........6-9
LSU...............7-11
South Car........5-10
Miss State.......3-12
Arkansas.........1-14
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Good post. Why do we not play UK this season? That's just silly. A rivalry team & not play them at all? What's the SEC's reasoning for this?
 
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LVJeff said:
Yeah but I'm greedy. I wanted that sweep. :) I wanted the sweep against Missouri. I'm still ticked at how they gift-wrapped and handed two games to Missouri. But I'm not too greedy. I only wanted 1 against Florida (didn't get it) and I'll settle for 2 against Auburn.

This team is sooo close.

By the way...I hope Moss isn't too "bitter". :p (I liked your typo!)
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Yeah I just now saw my typo :eek:lol::eek:lol:
 
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The problem with our remaining schedule is we can't really move up much in the RPI rankings but can move back down relatively farther.
 
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alexvol said:
The odds of winning out are really,really long but that is the only way they get a Super Regional imo.
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Not necessarily. Remember last yr? The Lady Vols finished tied for 4th place with LSU in the conference standings at 15-9 (seeded #5 in the SEC tournament), got hot, got on a roll, knocked off KY, LSU, FL and nearly beat Auburn in the SEC tournament championship game. And Tennessee was rewarded with 8th national seed. I see same thing happening this yr. We are all so eerily in a similar situation.

The team is gelling together and pecking at the right time IMO; if we beat Oklahoma and finish #4 in the SEC then we only need to advance to the SEC tournament semifinal game to get a top 8 national seed (host a super regional) championship IMO. If we lose to Oklahoma, finish 4th in the SEC then I think we'll need to get to the SEC championship game to host a super regional. If we beat Oklahoma, but finish #5 in the SEC, we'll need to get to the SEC championship game to host a super regional. If we lose to Oklahoma, finish #5 in the conference, then we'll need to win the SEC tournament to host a super regional.

We are trending up nicely as of late. I fully expect Tennessee to receive a top 8 national seed and host both a regional and a super regional.
 
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tonybologna said:
Can anybody answer this: http://www.volnation.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12554053&postcount=114
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I couldn't find anything specific to softball, but I found this article on tiebreakers for basketball. Maybe it's the same.

Tournament Tiebreakers

Two-Team Tie

The following procedure will be used in the following order until the tie is broken:
1.Won-lost results of head-to-head competition between the two teams.
2.Won-lost record of the two teams versus the No. 1 seed (and proceeding through the No. 14 seed, if necessary).
3.Coin flip by the Commissioner.

Three-Team Tie (or more)

When three or more teams are tied, the following procedure will be used in the following order until the tie is broken. If two teams re- main tied after a tiebreaker provision, the two-team tiebreaker formula will be used.
1.Best winning percentage of games played among the tied teams (Example: Team A is 3-1, Team B is 2-2 and Team C is 1-3 - Team A would be seeded highest, Team B second-highest and Team C lowest of the three).
2.Best winning percentage of the tied teams versus the No. 1 seed (and proceed- ing through the No. 14 seed, if necessary).
3.If two teams remain, coin flip by the Commissioner.
4.If three or more teams remain, draw by the Commissioner.
 
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The problem with being seeded 4th is that you play the 5/12-seed winner and that may be Alabama which is why I want Alabama to sweep Kentucky in their series. If TN/KY are seeded 4/5 (or 5/4) then TN stands a much better chance of advancing. Or if the 4/5 seed combo is TN and Georgia, Missouri, or A&M that is better than Alabama.
 
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LVJeff said:
I couldn't find anything specific to softball, but I found this article on tiebreakers for basketball. Maybe it's the same.

Tournament Tiebreakers

Two-Team Tie

The following procedure will be used in the following order until the tie is broken:
1.Won-lost results of head-to-head competition between the two teams.
2.Won-lost record of the two teams versus the No. 1 seed (and proceeding through the No. 14 seed, if necessary).
3.Coin flip by the Commissioner.

Three-Team Tie (or more)

When three or more teams are tied, the following procedure will be used in the following order until the tie is broken. If two teams re- main tied after a tiebreaker provision, the two-team tiebreaker formula will be used.
1.Best winning percentage of games played among the tied teams (Example: Team A is 3-1, Team B is 2-2 and Team C is 1-3 - Team A would be seeded highest, Team B second-highest and Team C lowest of the three).
2.Best winning percentage of the tied teams versus the No. 1 seed (and proceed- ing through the No. 14 seed, if necessary).
3.If two teams remain, coin flip by the Commissioner.
4.If three or more teams remain, draw by the Commissioner.
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I was talking about why we're not playing Kentucky this season in softball? Not all that other stuff.
 
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tonybologna said:
I was talking about why we're not playing Kentucky this season in softball? Not all that other stuff.
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I think SEC softball schedule format somewhat follows that of the football but it has its own tweaked angle and I don't know exactly what it is.

The football schedule is based on the 6-1-1 format (total 8 conference games. For softball each team plays 8 conference series for a total of 24 games) which means that each SEC football team plays six inter-division games, one permanent cross-division game, and one rotating cross-division game. In softball this year at least, each team seems to play 6 cross-division series and two rotating inter-divison games. It doesn't seem like there's a permanent cross-division school assigned in softball as there's in football.

Tennessee's 6 cross-division series this year are Arkansas, Mizzou, Auburn, MS St, A&M and Ole Miss. Two inter-division series are Florida and Georgia.

In this format each SEC team rotes playing its inter-division rivals, and this year Kentucky just happened not to be on Tennessee's schedule.

Last year TN played 5 cross-division series against AU, LSU, MS St, AL and MO & 3 inter-division series against GA, SC and KY. So the format seems to vary from year to year. As we know, there's no East or West divisions in SEC softball, so...
 
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2Alum4EverVol said:
I think SEC softball schedule format somewhat follows that of the football but it has its own tweaked angle and I don't know exactly what it is.

The football schedule is based on the 6-1-1 format (total 8 conference games. For softball each team plays 8 conference series for a total of 24 games) which means that each SEC football team plays six inter-division games, one permanent cross-division game, and one rotating cross-division game. In softball this year at least, each team seems to play 6 cross-division series and two rotating inter-divison games. It doesn't seem like there's a permanent cross-division school assigned in softball as there's in football.

Tennessee's 6 cross-division series this year are Arkansas, Mizzou, Auburn, MS St, A&M and Ole Miss. Two inter-division series are Florida and Georgia.

In this format each SEC team rotes playing its inter-division rivals, and this year Kentucky just happened not to be on Tennessee's schedule.

Last year TN played 5 cross-division series against AU, LSU, MS St, AL and MO & 3 inter-division series against GA, SC and KY. So the format seems to vary from year to year. As we know, there's no East or West divisions in SEC softball, so...
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I still think that's crazy. Kentucky is one of our biggest if not our biggest rivalry at least in softball. This would be like taking BAMA away from us playing them EVERY year in football even though they are in another division the SEC West.

That could end up happening in the future though in football. Rotating playing SEC West teams in which we sort of already do now but we still play BAMA every year now but that could be coming as a change sooner than later. I wouldn't like it for sure. We should be playing BAMA every year in all sports.
 
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