Did Trump reveal classified info to Russians?

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Trump is such an idiot. Just go ahead and bring in Pence, the clown show is over.

WASHINGTON — President Trump boasted about highly classified intelligence in a meeting with the Russian foreign minister and ambassador last week, providing details that could expose the source of the information and the manner in which it was collected, a current and a former American government official said Monday.

The intelligence disclosed by Mr. Trump in a meeting with Sergey V. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, was about an Islamic State plot...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/trump-russia-classified-information-isis.html
 
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I have to wonder with no agenda, because I'm not a big fan of his, but how do they know this? First, I've not watched any news, just seen headlines on Facebook, and now this. Did the Russians board their plane and call CNN and tell them trump gave away secrets, or did trump admit it, or is this just liberals dead set on "Russian" everything?
 
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joevol33 said:
I have to wonder with no agenda, because I'm not a big fan of his, but how do they know this? First, I've not watched any news, just seen headlines on Facebook, and now this. Did the Russians board their plane and call CNN and tell them trump gave away secrets, or did trump admit it, or is this just liberals dead set on "Russian" everything?
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Given Trump's large mouth and ignorant utterings on an almost daily basis, the probability that he did disclose the information, is about 98% likely.
 
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Coug said:
Given Trump's large mouth and ignorant utterings on an almost daily basis, the probability that he did disclose the information, is about 98% likely.
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How is it 98% likely with the lefts constant incoherent ramblings?
 
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Coug said:
Given Trump's large mouth and ignorant utterings on an almost daily basis, the probability that he did disclose the information, is about 98% likely.
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Nevermind that the Secretary of State, NSA Director and Deputy Director were all in the room and say that none of this happened. I don't know what was said, but it's very revealing that this is being conveniently omitted by news outlets who are even just now running with the story.
 
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"We can't have someone in the Oval Office who doesn't understand the meaning of the word confidential or classified." - Donald J. Trump (July 6, 2016)
 
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GAVol said:
Nevermind that the Secretary of State, NSA Director and Deputy Director were all in the room and say that none of this happened. I don't know what was said, but it's very revealing that this is being conveniently omitted by news outlets who are even just now running with the story.
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I wouldn't put much stock in McMaster's denial. The language used was highly prefaced. "As the report was written" He denied things which the Washington Post had not even accused Trump of but did not address the real issue - did Trump reveal the city of the source's origin (which could easily lead to their identification).
 
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I have little faith in Donny. I have less faith in the Washington establishment and media.

Until the media decides to stop throwing crap on the wall via ever-unnamed-sources, I'm going with the named sources that were in the meeting, and are denying.

And coug... The "I hate Donny, so I don't need no stinkin' sources" look is a bad one. You may want to dress out of a different closet if you want to be viewed as anything but a less insane VP.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I wouldn't put much stock in McMaster's denial. The language used was highly prefaced. "As the report was written" He denied things which the Washington Post had not even accused Trump of but did not address the real issue - did Trump reveal the city of the source's origin (which could easily lead to their identification).
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That's the new criticism now.... That the denial wasn't of the exact thing that WaPo reported. Seems pretty definitive to me but....

"At no time -- at no time -- were intelligence sources or methods discussed. And the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known. Two other senior officials who were present, including the secretary of state, remember it being the same way and have said so. Their on-the-record accounts should outweigh those of anonymous sources. And I was in the room. It didn't happen."
 
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One thing is clear. Trump should completely turn over the White House staff to get rid of the leakers. I've never seen leaks like this from inside the White House that are obviously intended to embarrass the President.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I have little faith in Donny. I have less faith in the Washington establishment and media.

Until the media decides to stop throwing crap on the wall via ever-unnamed-sources, I'm going with the named sources that were in the meeting, and are denying.

And coug... The "I hate Donny, so I don't need no stinkin' sources" look is a bad one. You may want to dress out of a different closet if you want to be viewed as anything but a less insane VP.
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It looks like he just undercut McMaster on twitter... Similar to what he did to Pence and Spicer last week about the firing of Comey.

Again, when looking at Trump's two part tweet minutes ago, take note that he doesn't address the pertinent issue... Did he reveal the city of the source's origin or not? That was classified information which the Russians did not need to have and our ally would not likely want them to have.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It looks like he just undercut McMaster on twitter... Similar to what he did to Pence and Spicer last week about the firing of Comey.

Again, when looking at Trump's two part tweet minutes ago, take note that he doesn't address the pertinent issue... Did he reveal the city of the source's origin or not? That was classified information which the Russians did not need to have and our ally would not likely want them to have.
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I think everybody can totally seeing Trump doing this in an ego driven moment trying to look smart. Still not sure it's as bad as is being portrayed.
 
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GAVol said:
I think everybody can totally seeing Trump doing this in an ego driven moment trying to look smart. Still not sure it's as bad as is being portrayed.
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Maybe not a big deal but he sure made a big deal of the handling of classified information during the campaign. At the very least, it's amazing that he let this happen with the Russians last week with all that he has been dealing with lately related to Russia. Even his Fox News apologists are shaking their heads over that.
 
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GAVol said:
One thing is clear. Trump should completely turn over the White House staff to get rid of the leakers. I've never seen leaks like this from inside the White House that are obviously intended to embarrass the President.
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Have to gut the thing.
 
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The other problem I have is with the Wikileak stuff, it was all about the outrage over the leaks; not the content. With the White House leaks, it's all about the information and nobody seems concerned with how it's obtained.
 
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These tweets seem to confirm the Washington Post story. Notice, he's now saying that he had the right to do what he did but he's not denying the story like McMaster did.

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 53 mins

As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining...

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 44 mins

...to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I wanted Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS and terrorism.

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That is NOT what McMaster said at all yesterday. Trump is getting a lack of loyalty because he is undercutting his staff. He sends them out to make categorical denials but then contradicts them later.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It looks like he just undercut McMaster on twitter... Similar to what he did to Pence and Spicer last week about the firing of Comey.

Again, when looking at Trump's two part tweet minutes ago, take note that he doesn't address the pertinent issue... Did he reveal the city of the source's origin or not? That was classified information which the Russians did not need to have and our ally would not likely want them to have.
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What the heck are you talking about?

They said:

"During President Trump's meeting with Foreign Minister Lavrov, a broad range of subjects were discussed among which were common efforts and threats regarding counter-terrorism," Tillerson told reporters at the White House Monday evening. "During that exchange, the nature of specific threats were discussed, but they did not discuss sources, methods or military operations."
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Trump said...

As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining....to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism.
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So, they both admitted that Trump discussed terrorism, and even specific details pertaining as such, but McMaster (who was in the room) went further by saying that Trump didn't share anything confidential or inappropriate (which Trump never claims that he did).

It's like the world has taken crazy pills! You bring up Trump and half the world loses basic reasoning skills and reading comprehension.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
These tweets seem to confirm the Washington Post story. Notice, he's now saying that he had the right to do what he did but he's not denying the story like McMaster did.

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 53 mins

As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining...

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 44 mins

...to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I wanted Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS and terrorism.

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That is NOT what McMaster said at all yesterday. Trump is getting a lack of loyalty because he is undercutting his staff. He sends them out to make categorical denials but then contradicts them later.
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Personally, I believe you've completely lost it in your hate for trump. See my post above. Either you're reading info I haven't seen, or you've lost all ability to process information in an unbiased manner.

Completely.
 
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GAVol said:
One thing is clear. Trump should completely turn over the White House staff to get rid of the leakers. I've never seen leaks like this from inside the White House that are obviously intended to embarrass the President.
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No doubt
 
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Orange_Crush said:
What the heck are you talking about?

They said:



Trump said...



So, they both admitted that Trump discussed terrorism, and even specific details pertaining as such, but McMaster (who was in the room) went further by saying that Trump didn't share anything confidential or inappropriate (which Trump never claims that he did).

It's like the world has taken crazy pills! You bring up Trump and half the world loses basic reasoning skills and reading comprehension.
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The Washington Post claims he did and Trump didn't deny it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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