Tennessee cast as overwhelming underdog in rivalry games, per Vegas sports book

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https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/tennessee-football-vols-butch-jones-19

The Golden Nugget sports book has installed the Crimson Tide as a 24.5-point favorite over Tennessee in the teams’ Oct. 21 game in Tuscaloosa.
The Gators are a 9.5-point favorite over the Vols in the Sept. 16 game scheduled to be played in The Swamp in Gainesville.


Tennessee is a 1-point favorite over Georgia, an SEC East rival it has beat the past two years, when the teams meet on Sept. 30 in Neyland Stadium.


Of course the lines will move but ouch. Here's hoping we make Vegas look silly in 2017


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Tennessee went 6-6 against the spread last season after being favored in 13 games, despite injuries that led to 17 of 22 starters missing games.

It's amazing to think that all but 5 of our starters suffered injuries last season and we still won 9 games.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
Tennessee went 6-6 against the spread last season after being favored in 13 games, despite injuries that led to 17 of 22 starters missing games.

It's amazing to think that all but 5 of our starters suffered injuries last season and we still won 9 games.
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Fwiw, Tennessee opened as 9.5 favorite vs Florida the week of the game but closed as just a 4 point favorite due to all the people jumping on the Gators... Tennessee's 10 point win made the sportsbooks some $$$$.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Fwiw, Tennessee opened as 9.5 favorite vs Florida the week of the game but closed as just a 4 point favorite due to all the people jumping on the Gators... Tennessee's 10 point win made the sportsbooks some $$$$.
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They should have left the line at 9.5. They could have gotten so much more of dumb gator money.

I've always thought they keep adjusting the line to cover bets on both sides and are in it for the tax(vig). They aren't gambling they are running a business.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
Tennessee went 6-6 against the spread last season after being favored in 13 games, despite injuries that led to 17 of 22 starters missing games.

It's amazing to think that all but 5 of our starters suffered injuries last season and we still won 9 games.
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Good lord, enough with the injuries excuse making. USCe and Vandy losses were not due to injuries.
 
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CA_Vol said:
Good lord, enough with the injuries excuse making. USCe and Vandy losses were not due to injuries.
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Call it an excuse or an explanation. The defense was depleted at the end of the season by injuries. Should Tennessee still have been able to win those games anyway? Sure.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Call it an excuse or an explanation. The defense was depleted at the end of the season by injuries. Should Tennessee still have been able to win those games anyway? Sure.
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No it wasn't....not when we played SCar and certainly not when we played Vandy and had 8 of 11 starters playing.
 
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KBVol said:
No it wasn't....not when we played SCar and certainly not when we played Vandy and had 8 of 11 starters playing.
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Yes, it was... Sutton was certainly not 100% or even close to it... Ditto for DK Jr. Danny O'Brien (dismissed), JRM, Tuttle and KMac were all out as well. That's depleted. You argue for the hell of it sometimes.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/tennessee-football-vols-butch-jones-19

The Golden Nugget sports book has installed the Crimson Tide as a 24.5-point favorite over Tennessee in the teams’ Oct. 21 game in Tuscaloosa.
The Gators are a 9.5-point favorite over the Vols in the Sept. 16 game scheduled to be played in The Swamp in Gainesville.


Tennessee is a 1-point favorite over Georgia, an SEC East rival it has beat the past two years, when the teams meet on Sept. 30 in Neyland Stadium.


Of course the lines will move but ouch. Here's hoping we make Vegas look silly in 2017


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After the past two years, I can see this. It's called expectations. Jones has been here long enough to know what they can expect of him and thus it shows.
 
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I really would have thought the UF and UGA games would have been different lines. Seems like UGA may be a bigger threat than the Gators.
 
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Can see the big spread against Bama.
UGA game is pretty close.

Not sure where you get UF by 9. At best a slight favorite at home. At least at this juncture.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Can see the big spread against Bama.
UGA game is pretty close.

Not sure where you get UF by 9. At best a slight favorite at home. At least at this juncture.
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Agreed. The only one of those that surprised me was the Florida game.

We'll beat the spread against Bama, though it's not likely we win the game. And we may not be within 2 scores at the final cannon. Hoping we are, that it's a well contested match.

Florida should be a pick'em on neutral field, give the Gators 3-4 points for the Swamp. Not 9, that's too much.

UGa a pick'em as well, slight lean to us for Neyland.

So yeah, the Florida thing is just odd. Wonder if Vegas is going to try to make a lot of $$ of Vols fans diving inside the spread.
 
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mitzustu said:
Phil Steele has their DL, DBs, LBs, WRs, RBs and QBs rated over ours.

What is it you like better about our roster?
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Phil's a good analyst, but I disagree with him on half those. Would take our DL (healthy) over theirs, call the LBs and WRs even, and say too early to tell (on both sides) at QB.
 
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mitzustu said:
Phil Steele has their DL, DBs, LBs, WRs, RBs and QBs rated over ours.

What is it you like better about our roster?
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That's Phil's opinion. Most of those are either questionable or at least close. Florida lost a lot off their defense which wasn't that good last year to begin with.

Provided we are healthy, I like our secondary and defensive line just as much as theirs. We both have question marks.
 
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mitzustu said:
Phil Steele has their DL, DBs, LBs, WRs, RBs and QBs rated over ours.

What is it you like better about our roster?
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They undoubtedly have the edge in some positions, but I don't agree with those overall. Our wr's killed their defensive backfield and they lost 2-3 of the best players back there. No way I'm buying they have a better QB, even though ours (whoever it is) has not seen a snap yet - unless he's talking about their transfer, in which case, my opinion doesn't change.

I wouldn't trade 1 John Kelly for their entire rb corp. Add in Fils-Aime and Chandler, along with the other gurs, and we probably have a better rb corp anyway - although inexperienced.

I think our wr's are at least on the same level, if not better overall.

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that so many players haven't seen a ton of time yet and will be new to the analysts. Hopefully their opinions change after the first game of the year.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Do folks really bet on games this early before the season starts?
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Yes, yes they do. Don't ask me why bc literally anything can happen between now and the season opener. My guess is you bet an underdog that you like with big odds and hope for the best. :unsure:
 
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The UF line isn't all that surprising, really. UT hasn't won in the Swamp since 2003. Neither UT nor CBJ are getting much respect this year. And UF is getting more respect than they deserve. Most analysts are predicting UT to have a tough time taking a new QB into the Swamp and coming out with a win. Whether we will or not is TBD.
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
When UF gets throttled by UM in the first game.... reality will set in.
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Michigan only returns 5 starters total from their 2016 squad, 10 of those lost being on defense.

I don't know if Florida will pull a win, but I don't think Michigan is going to spank them like they did last time.
 
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LA Vol said:
The UF line isn't all that surprising, really. UT hasn't won in the Swamp since 2003. Neither UT nor CBJ are getting much respect this year. And UF is getting more respect than they deserve. Most analysts are predicting UT to have a tough time taking a new QB into the Swamp and coming out with a win. Whether we will or not is TBD.
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Happens when you are able to back into the SECCG two years in a row.

Happens when you choke away the chance to play in the SECCG two years in a row.
 
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