Looking at minutes, lineups, roster management, etc for 2023

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I think this team should be top 10 nationally, maybe top 5. It should challenge for the SEC title and certainly in the top 3 of the SEC.

I want to see Kelly nail down the lineup and sub patterns much earlier this year. Just for fun this is how I would budget the minutes in crucial games this coming year:

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We need to manage the minutes so that either Jackson or Spear are on the court at all times to be a creator and/or make something happen at the end of the shotclock.

Note that although I don't have Jill starting, she does get the most minutes in the post and plays "starters minutes".

Fouls are something that will need to be managed with Key, Striplin, and Jill.

I could see Puckett stealing Darby's minutes or vice versa.

What do yall think? How would you run it out ATM?
 

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37620VOL said:
I think this team should be top 10 nationally, maybe top 5. It should challenge for the SEC title and certainly in the top 3 of the SEC.

I want to see Kelly nail down the lineup and sub patterns much earlier this year. Just for fun this is how I would budget the minutes in crucial games this coming year:

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We need to manage the minutes so that either Jackson or Spear are on the court at all times to be a creator and/or make something happen at the end of the shotclock.

Note that although I don't have Jill starting, she does get the most minutes in the post and plays "starters minutes".

Fouls are something that will need to be managed with Key, Striplin, and Jill.

I could see Puckett stealing Darby's minutes or vice versa.

What do yall think? How would you run it out ATM?
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While I don't disagree with your playing time projections, on a theoretical level, I don't see CKJH playing 3 of her starters 33+ minutes. It's simply not in her coaching history and would require a complete revision of her normal substitution patterns.
 
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volnationnj said:
While I don't disagree with your playing time projections, on a theoretical level, I don't see CKJH playing 3 of her starters 33+ minutes. It's simply not in her coaching history and would require a complete revision of her normal substitution patterns.
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And that is why in big games we get beat. Harper has to understand this or she will not last. I want her to succeed, but worry about something this simple being her demise.
 
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volnationnj said:
While I don't disagree with your playing time projections, on a theoretical level, I don't see CKJH playing 3 of her starters 33+ minutes. It's simply not in her coaching history and would require a complete revision of her normal substitution patterns.
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I was thinking of "crucial games" for this lineup - Top 25 OOC, top half SEC, SECT, and NCAAT. There will be many other games to spread the minutes around.

I would also submit to you that CKH has learned. Look at the minutes from the win over LSU:

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volnationnj said:
While I don't disagree with your playing time projections, on a theoretical level, I don't see CKJH playing 3 of her starters 33+ minutes. It's simply not in her coaching history and would require a complete revision of her normal substitution patterns.
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KJH played two of her starters, RJ and JH 33+ mins whenever games were close, esp later in the season last yr . Both RJ and Jordan Walker played 40+ during the double OT game at Miss St. During close games, she was only taking RJ out for quick breathers built around time outs. She knows who she needs on the floor, lol, even though early in the yr it doesn't always seem that way.

While the minutes distribution posted looks reasonable to me, I think we'll actually see a little more of Darby, Puckett and Powell than that, esp early on. Of course it will be situational and conditional but we'll see. I'd actually like to see Wynn and Strickland get some mins when possible for future reference.

I'd like to see Jill and Key play together, I really like Jill's mobility as a 4. I think Striplin will do a great job rotating backup mins through both positions.
 
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Playing time in every crucial game is affected by individual matchups and, of course, you may see Jill starting at the 4. Also, I think Sara will improve her play and have a noticeably better year. When it comes to season averages, as you would probably agree, those numbers will naturally be much more balanced, along with minutes for the rest of the team
 
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37620VOL said:
I think this team should be top 10 nationally, maybe top 5. It should challenge for the SEC title and certainly in the top 3 of the SEC.

I want to see Kelly nail down the lineup and sub patterns much earlier this year. Just for fun this is how I would budget the minutes in crucial games this coming year:

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We need to manage the minutes so that either Jackson or Spear are on the court at all times to be a creator and/or make something happen at the end of the shotclock.

Note that although I don't have Jill starting, she does get the most minutes in the post and plays "starters minutes".

Fouls are something that will need to be managed with Key, Striplin, and Jill.

I could see Puckett stealing Darby's minutes or vice versa.

What do yall think? How would you run it out ATM?
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I think Kellie will go with who ever is giving production during practices. I think all of her players should get playing time this season. I hope these players use their Covid year and return
 
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37620VOL said:
I think this team should be top 10 nationally, maybe top 5. It should challenge for the SEC title and certainly in the top 3 of the SEC.

I want to see Kelly nail down the lineup and sub patterns much earlier this year. Just for fun this is how I would budget the minutes in crucial games this coming year:

View attachment 555624

We need to manage the minutes so that either Jackson or Spear are on the court at all times to be a creator and/or make something happen at the end of the shotclock.

Note that although I don't have Jill starting, she does get the most minutes in the post and plays "starters minutes".

Fouls are something that will need to be managed with Key, Striplin, and Jill.

I could see Puckett stealing Darby's minutes or vice versa.

What do yall think? How would you run it out ATM?
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I think top 15-20 is about right, but that my opinion and we can climb higher especially if Rickea can be the all world player we need.
 
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37620VOL said:
I think this team should be top 10 nationally, maybe top 5. It should challenge for the SEC title and certainly in the top 3 of the SEC.

I want to see Kelly nail down the lineup and sub patterns much earlier this year. Just for fun this is how I would budget the minutes in crucial games this coming year:

View attachment 555624

We need to manage the minutes so that either Jackson or Spear are on the court at all times to be a creator and/or make something happen at the end of the shotclock.

Note that although I don't have Jill starting, she does get the most minutes in the post and plays "starters minutes".

Fouls are something that will need to be managed with Key, Striplin, and Jill.

I could see Puckett stealing Darby's minutes or vice versa.

What do yall think? How would you run it out ATM?
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Are you writing off Wynn and Strickland as two players who won't see the court?
 
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I had lunch with a former WNBA head coach two weeks ago and of course we discussed college women's basketball. She asked me what I thought about Kellie and I said I have two areas that makes me scratch my head with Kellie - substitutions and timeouts. She said that she watched a couple of games last year (the Stanford game in person) and thought the exact same thing.

I think we all want to see the LVs (and Kellie) get back over that hump and to the final four again. But if these two areas don't improve, they probably won't.
 
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pasadenavol said:
I had lunch with a former WNBA head coach two weeks ago and of course we discussed college women's basketball. She asked me what I thought about Kellie and I said I have two areas that makes me scratch my head with Kellie - substitutions and timeouts. She said that she watched a couple of games last year (the Stanford game in person) and thought the exact same thing.

I think we all want to see the LVs (and Kellie) get back over that hump and to the final four again. But if these two areas don't improve, they probably won't.
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I personally thought she improved in those areas later in the season, so I think we see that continue this year
 
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LV renaissance said:
From everything Kellie has said about Strickland's athleticism, speed in which she plays, and energy she brings to both ends to both ends of the court, I would be surprised if she doesn't get at least 5 minutes a game if not more.
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Could def be a who’s hitting situation with her and spear giving Spear some rest esp on d. 3pt shooters get tired so unlikely any of them will play 30. Tess HAD TO last year. Now we have options
 
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LV renaissance said:
From everything Kellie has said about Strickland's athleticism, speed in which she plays, and energy she brings to both ends to both ends of the court, I would be surprised if she doesn't get at least 5 minutes a game if not more.
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That was said here a few months ago when she committed, people didn’t want to listen or it be true. Once you get on the court the rest takes care of itself.
 
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I smile at this thread, yet again, so many that appear each year between June and November, followed by "FREE Player X, sitting near the end of the bench.

and not to disagree or agree with YOUcancall me AL, the dialogue on whether players have or should have offensive freedom to step outside their roles and expected shots.
 
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stllvf said:
I smile at this thread, yet again, so many that appear each year between June and November, followed by "FREE Player X, sitting near the end of the bench.

and not to disagree or agree with YOUcancall me AL, the dialogue on whether players have or should have offensive freedom to step outside their roles and expected shots.
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You're right, it's presumptuous of me to say what the coach needs to do. Apologies for that. But I am recalling last year at this time we were all talking about how great the team would be, and it started off terribly, and we were told that people just had not gelled together, and roles definitions would take time to develop, etc. I'm just hoping to avoid that this year, and the summer is used for that before the season gets under way. And I think that is way more important than speculation about minutes distribution. That said, I disagree that players should have the freedom to shoot unexpected shots, outside of their shooting strengths. Should Key be shooting 3s? Wynn?
 
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stllvf said:
I smile at this thread, yet again, so many that appear each year between June and November, followed by "FREE Player X, sitting near the end of the bench.

and not to disagree or agree with YOUcancall me AL, the dialogue on whether players have or should have offensive freedom to step outside their roles and expected shots.
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3meeks2001 said:
As the head coach, I bet she has zero clue she needs to do that.
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I smile at posters on a sports fan forum who are surprised and amused that speculation, overcoaching the coach, and bloviating happen here. I'm curious what content you expect, especially during the offseason. I'd be surprised and disappointed if we didn't speculate about lineups, players roles and expectations etc. It always feels to me like folks coming to the tea party and getting upset that tea was served.
 
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