So… Booing injuries

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Can we wait till we at least confirm it’s fake before booing? Every single time a defender went down last night our crowd was booing. LOUDLY. I don’t know, even as a TN fan it rubs me the wrong way. Because if it was real, and that was your child being boo’ed by 100k people while injured, that wouldn’t be cool. I understand it slows tempo, but I believe I lose more and more humanity hearing it on every injury that’s real or fake. Like the tempo of our offense is more important than a college kid’s health and potentially their future. Similar to Walter Nolan last year. He got boo’ed and then got carted off the field (granted he was cheered as he left the field).

Edit: Obviously I know a post on vol nation won’t stop 100k people from booing immediately, just kind of getting a temperature check in the forums to see if people feel the same way.
 
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volsfan24017 said:
Agreed. I didn't care for the couple of times when some of the crowd broke into "He's a p***y!" chants. Classless....let's have a little dignity.
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Hate to say it but teams brought it on themselves by doing this. Is it classless by the fans? Yep. But let's not act like the teams didn't set this precedent. I dont like the fans doing it, but at the same time I don't feel sorry for the players having to hear it.
 
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Vulgar chants aside……..if you’re truly injured, but not immobile, GET OFF OF THE FIELD. Simple solution. I well remember both Chuck Webb and Jamal Lewis tearing ACLs and STILL getting off of the field. I know, different eras of toughness and pride, but EVERY “injury” isn’t worth laying out on the field.
 
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Teezy said:
Can we wait till we at least confirm it’s fake before booing? Every single time a defender went down last night our crowd was booing. LOUDLY. I don’t know, even as a TN fan it rubs me the wrong way. Because if it was real, and that was your child being boo’ed by 100k people while injured, that wouldn’t be cool. I understand it slows tempo, but I believe I lose more and more humanity hearing it on every injury that’s real or fake. Like the tempo of our offense is more important than a college kid’s health and potentially their future. Similar to Walter Nolan last year. He got boo’ed and then got carted off the field (granted he was cheered as he left the field).

Edit: Obviously I know a post on vol nation won’t stop 100k people from booing immediately, just kind of getting a temperature check in the forums to see if people feel the same way.
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It's become an epidemic, especially by teams that play the Vols. It's gotten so bad that unless a defender obviously takes a bad hit, they're going to get booed, and not just in Neyland.
 
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Teezy said:
Can we wait till we at least confirm it’s fake before booing? Every single time a defender went down last night our crowd was booing. LOUDLY. I don’t know, even as a TN fan it rubs me the wrong way. Because if it was real, and that was your child being boo’ed by 100k people while injured, that wouldn’t be cool. I understand it slows tempo, but I believe I lose more and more humanity hearing it on every injury that’s real or fake. Like the tempo of our offense is more important than a college kid’s health and potentially their future. Similar to Walter Nolan last year. He got boo’ed and then got carted off the field (granted he was cheered as he left the field).

Edit: Obviously I know a post on vol nation won’t stop 100k people from booing immediately, just kind of getting a temperature check in the forums to see if people feel the same way.
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I agree with you. However, in defense of the fans, they likely have "Little Shepherd Boy" syndrome. You fake claiming a wolf is attacking the sheep, people reach a point where they don't believe it. Then when it is real, nobody comes to help. Same thing with fake injures. It happens so frequently, fans boo automatically. It never should have been allowed to reach this point to begin with.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Hate to say it but teams brought it on themselves by doing this. Is it classless by the fans? Yep. But let's not act like the teams didn't set this precedent. I dont like the fans doing it, but at the same time I don't feel sorry for the players having to hear it.
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This^ & I think their booing the coaches who are the facilitators and make millions for doing this BS
if their not careful the players will try to get a union because I've talked to some relatives who said the players are just following orders and are afraid of reprimand. The narrative is you do whatever for your team and that's a slippery slope.
 
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Orangepantsforever said:
Vulgar chants aside……..if you’re truly injured, but not immobile, GET OFF OF THE FIELD. Simple solution. I well remember both Chuck Webb and Jamal Lewis tearing ACLs and STILL getting off of the field. I know, different eras of toughness and pride, but EVERY “injury” isn’t worth laying out on the field.
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I'd say players have probably been coached to not move if they are injured until they've been examined by the medical staff. No sense in risking further damage if you don't have to.
 
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Teezy said:
Can we wait till we at least confirm it’s fake before booing? Every single time a defender went down last night our crowd was booing. LOUDLY. I don’t know, even as a TN fan it rubs me the wrong way. Because if it was real, and that was your child being boo’ed by 100k people while injured, that wouldn’t be cool. I understand it slows tempo, but I believe I lose more and more humanity hearing it on every injury that’s real or fake. Like the tempo of our offense is more important than a college kid’s health and potentially their future. Similar to Walter Nolan last year. He got boo’ed and then got carted off the field (granted he was cheered as he left the field).

Edit: Obviously I know a post on vol nation won’t stop 100k people from booing immediately, just kind of getting a temperature check in the forums to see if people feel the same way.
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A) it’s mostly the students, so good luck.
B) I don’t boo the other team at all. They’re college kids. I think it’s annoying that we boo the other team when they run out on the field. It cuts short the excitement of the T. Just ignore them. We wouldn’t even notice them if people didn’t boo.
C) Booing has no effect on the opponent. In fact, some teams get energized by it. It’s just self indulgent.
 
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The fines are not going to stop the fake injuries. You can’t prove anything. Did you see Shams acting job when he went down holding his arm after the extra point?

Only way to police the fake injuries is to make any player that goes down with injuries miss a certain number of plays (maybe 8 defensive/spt plays minimum). The team could avoid that player missing plays by using a timeout.

This solves the problem. Ends the booing. And doesn’t make anyone try to decipher if someone is faking or really hurt.
I fully expect a rule like this to be in place before next season.
 
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Orangepantsforever said:
Vulgar chants aside……..if you’re truly injured, but not immobile, GET OFF OF THE FIELD. Simple solution. I well remember both Chuck Webb and Jamal Lewis tearing ACLs and STILL getting off of the field. I know, different eras of toughness and pride, but EVERY “injury” isn’t worth laying out on the field.
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Sure and while they are trying to GET OFF THE FIELD the offense runs a play against 10 defenders, seems logical.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I agree, especially now that they are fining coaches for obviously fake injuries, I think we should go back to a presumption of good faith as fans.
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Doubtful and fining coaches is the dumbest possible way to handle this. The league should in no way, do anything, that makes it seem like they’re questioning if a guy is or is not injured.

“I felt dizzy and disoriented, but I didn’t want to lay down on the field because I didn’t want it to look like a fake injury”….no thanks.

Terrible move by the SEC. The correct answer is to simply take injuries more serious, not to question them. So have players sit out 2 series anytime they’re “injured”. 15 yard penalty and ineligible for the rest of the game if caught on the field sooner and make it a reviewable play so if the other staff sees that guy out there, they can throw a challenge flag if the refs miss it
 
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Teezy said:
Can we wait till we at least confirm it’s fake before booing? Every single time a defender went down last night our crowd was booing. LOUDLY. I don’t know, even as a TN fan it rubs me the wrong way. Because if it was real, and that was your child being boo’ed by 100k people while injured, that wouldn’t be cool. I understand it slows tempo, but I believe I lose more and more humanity hearing it on every injury that’s real or fake. Like the tempo of our offense is more important than a college kid’s health and potentially their future. Similar to Walter Nolan last year. He got boo’ed and then got carted off the field (granted he was cheered as he left the field).

Edit: Obviously I know a post on vol nation won’t stop 100k people from booing immediately, just kind of getting a temperature check in the forums to see if people feel the same way.
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It sure feels without watching the tape and counting that most of the “injuries” occur after a big play.

If you are in the stadium and a big play occurs and you feel the momentum starting to shift and you look back to the field and see a player down, booing has become a natural reaction now because you know some defender will be down after every big play.

If you want it stopped, change the rules otherwise it is here to stay.
 
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Teezy said:
Can we wait till we at least confirm it’s fake before booing? Every single time a defender went down last night our crowd was booing. LOUDLY. I don’t know, even as a TN fan it rubs me the wrong way. Because if it was real, and that was your child being boo’ed by 100k people while injured, that wouldn’t be cool. I understand it slows tempo, but I believe I lose more and more humanity hearing it on every injury that’s real or fake. Like the tempo of our offense is more important than a college kid’s health and potentially their future. Similar to Walter Nolan last year. He got boo’ed and then got carted off the field (granted he was cheered as he left the field).

Edit: Obviously I know a post on vol nation won’t stop 100k people from booing immediately, just kind of getting a temperature check in the forums to see if people feel the same way.
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100% agree with you.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Doubtful and fining coaches is the dumbest possible way to handle this. The league should in no way, do anything, that makes it seem like they’re questioning if a guy is or is not injured.

“I felt dizzy and disoriented, but I didn’t want to lay down on the field because I didn’t want it to look like a fake injury”….no thanks.

Terrible move by the SEC. The correct answer is to simply take injuries more serious, not to question them. So have players sit out 2 series anytime they’re “injured”. 15 yard penalty and ineligible for the rest of the game if caught on the field sooner and make it a reviewable play so if the other staff sees that guy out there, they can throw a challenge flag if the refs miss it
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Problem with that though is kids may feel pressured to stay in and play hurt, leading to further injuries. I think they will get the low hanging fruit with these fines which is a start, but this is all probably ultimately going to lead to a longer mandatory time period between snaps.
 
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