I don't understand the crowd that wants to avoid SEC championship games in the playoff era

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ConantheVolbarian

ConantheVolbarian

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Why would anyone want to avoid a chance to win another SEC championship? We haven't appeared in one since 2007 and haven't won it since 1998. That's also something other SEC programs use against us when they are talking trash and they aren't wrong!

Finally - and here's my biggest point - if you win an SEC championship you'll go on to win the whole thing 9 times out of 10. And if you don't win it you probably won't be able to win a national title anyway. At best you'd be just another playoff team. And I'd rather compete for an SEC championship than be just another team in a 12-team playoff.

Plus, it's loser talk when you say you'd rather avoid a conference championship game because you might lose. Get out of here with that nonsense!
 
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VolAllen said:
My opinion….ditch the game altogether now that there’s no East & West. Crown whoever is the #1 team at the end of the season and move on. Thats essentially what they do in basketball, then have an extra, meaningless SEC tournament champion.
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Yes, it's going to be embarrassing when the playoffs have an automatic berth for a 3 loss conference champion. It could happen, but more than likely it will be a 3 loss team that doesn't make the playoffs after losing the game while other 2 loss teams that didn't make the championship game get in ahead of them.
 
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I’d rather add a 13th game for everyone and and make it 9 conference games. Then just name the league champion based off record and tie-breakers.
 
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VolAllen said:
My opinion….ditch the game altogether now that there’s no East & West. Crown whoever is the #1 team at the end of the season and move on. Thats essentially what they do in basketball, then have an extra, meaningless SEC tournament champion.
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Meaningless? yes

Moneyless? no

ergo - you know why it is not going to end.
 
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ConantheVolbarian said:
Why would anyone want to avoid a chance to win another SEC championship? We haven't appeared in one since 2007 and haven't won it since 1998. That's also something other SEC programs use against us when they are talking trash and they aren't wrong!

Finally - and here's my biggest point - if you win an SEC championship you'll go on to win the whole thing 9 times out of 10. And if you don't win it you probably won't be able to win a national title anyway. At best you'd be just another playoff team. And I'd rather compete for an SEC championship than be just another team in a 12-team playoff.

Plus, it's loser talk when you say you'd rather avoid a conference championship game because you might lose. Get out of here with that nonsense!
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💯 percent I agree....you play to win
Your conference Go Vols
 
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I am not part of that crowd. That’s the same crowd that argues we should play no one in nonconference games and move to the ACC, while also claiming that the playoff should be the top 8 SEC teams and 4 other conference champions.
 
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ConantheVolbarian said:
Why would anyone want to avoid a chance to win another SEC championship? We haven't appeared in one since 2007 and haven't won it since 1998. That's also something other SEC programs use against us when they are talking trash and they aren't wrong!

Finally - and here's my biggest point - if you win an SEC championship you'll go on to win the whole thing 9 times out of 10. And if you don't win it you probably won't be able to win a national title anyway. At best you'd be just another playoff team. And I'd rather compete for an SEC championship than be just another team in a 12-team playoff.

Plus, it's loser talk when you say you'd rather avoid a conference championship game because you might lose. Get out of here with that nonsense!
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A 3 loss team could be left out. Playing a top SEC team is never easily physically and has a high injury risk vs getting the week off.

I think the biggest advantage of the sec championship game is more experience for Nico and his WRs against elite competition
 
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ConantheVolbarian said:
Why would anyone want to avoid a chance to win another SEC championship? We haven't appeared in one since 2007 and haven't won it since 1998. That's also something other SEC programs use against us when they are talking trash and they aren't wrong!

Finally - and here's my biggest point - if you win an SEC championship you'll go on to win the whole thing 9 times out of 10. And if you don't win it you probably won't be able to win a national title anyway. At best you'd be just another playoff team. And I'd rather compete for an SEC championship than be just another team in a 12-team playoff.

Plus, it's loser talk when you say you'd rather avoid a conference championship game because you might lose. Get out of here with that nonsense!
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Totally agree, Conan.

The only thing I can figure is that losers plan to lose, so they try to avoid the challenges in the first place.

We want winners. Among our university staff, among our coaches, among our players, and among our fans.

Go Vols!
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
You can’t see the forest for the trees.
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You're the one who can't see that making a 12-team playoff isn't impressive. If you win the SEC championship you're probably going to win a national championship and if you can't win that game you would most likely lose in the playoff anyway
 
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ConantheVolbarian said:
You're the one who can't see that making a 12-team playoff isn't impressive. If you win the SEC championship you're probably going to win a national championship and if you can't win that game you would most likely lose in the playoff anyway
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Not necessarily. UGA got knocked off by Bama last year and would've been the favorite in the playoffs last year regardless. If we aren't going to have divisions, then I don't see the point of keeping the SECCG at this point. Personally, I would much rather play in the SEC CG, but I would also like for Texas and OU to go back to the Big XII and that ain't happening either.
 
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ConantheVolbarian said:
You're the one who can't see that making a 12-team playoff isn't impressive. If you win the SEC championship you're probably going to win a national championship and if you can't win that game you would most likely lose in the playoff anyway
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You don’t know any of that. It’s your opinion. It’s just another game now. Another game to risk injury and if you lose risk falling out of contention. You’re just being a sec fangirl groupie. Sec teams have enough of a gauntlet. Why not sit at home prepping for playoffs? What’s the most important game of the year? Sure as **** ain’t the sec CG. There’s your answer.
 
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ConantheVolbarian said:
You're the one who can't see that making a 12-team playoff isn't impressive. If you win the SEC championship you're probably going to win a national championship and if you can't win that game you would most likely lose in the playoff anyway
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Hmm...we will have to wait and see about that. I expect there to be quite a bit of deviation between whoever wins the SEC title and the National Title under this new format. Navigating a single-elimination 12-team tournament is a lot different than winning a 4-team playoff or a single national championship game.

Also, to your second point about "most likely losing in the playoff anyway", if you've been following the SEC long enough, you should know how hard it is to beat a good team twice. I actually thought in real time last week that I would almost rather lose to Georgia and face them in the playoffs with revenge on the mind than vice versa.
 
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The committee should come out and say that the loser of the conference championship game will be the second team in for the conference provided that the conference gets more than the conference champ in the playoffs. That would end all the concerns of being penalized for losing the conference championship game. For the SEC and Big 10 it would mean the conference champ gets a first round bye and the conference riunner up gets to host a first round game.
 
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Sarms58 said:
The committee should come out and say that the loser of the conference championship game will be the second team in for the conference provided that the conference gets more than the conference champ in the playoffs. That would end all the concerns of being penalized for losing the conference championship game. For the SEC and Big 10 it would mean the conference champ gets a first round bye and the conference riunner up gets to host a first round game.
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That would be BS. Especially in leagues like the Big 12 and ACC
 
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perico said:
Not necessarily. UGA got knocked off by Bama last year and would've been the favorite in the playoffs last year regardless. If we aren't going to have divisions, then I don't see the point of keeping the SECCG at this point. Personally, I would much rather play in the SEC CG, but I would also like for Texas and OU to go back to the Big XII and that ain't happening either.
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Yea, and a couple years ago Bama beat Georgia in the SECCG but Georgia beat Bama in the national championship game. The loser of the SECCG has as a better shot at winning it all than most of the other teams in the 12 team playoff.
 
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Conference championships have been pushed to the side by the almighty CFP. That's all it is. People can like it or hate that fact, but it won't change reality. If winning a conference title meant something significant enough to fight for, everyone would want it, but the CFP from its inception has been strippping the conference championship games of their cachet. It's just a bullet point on a sheet for next year. It doesn't carry weight in national conversations, not like it used to.

And the scenario is misrepresented anyway. The real question is this - do teams clawing for a spot in the lower half of the CFP bracket want to trade in a GUARANTEED shot at the College Football Playoffs, for a chance to play in a conference championship game - but - BUT - you MUST win or else you're completely out and you get nothing.

No one with common sense will want to surrender a guaranteed slot in the CFP in that scenario. No one. That's the impact of having the entirety of football media pushing the corporate playoff structure they're all invested in.
 
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