Tennessee Playoff Guide Week 13: An (Almost) Perfect Weekend

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#1
With a very sluggish start for the Tennessee Volunteers, at around 1:30 PM ET it felt like this was going to be a lackluster weekend for the Tennessee Volunteers. Instead, Tennessee won 59-0 and somehow got 4/5 results that it needed. Had Penn State lost to Minnesota, it would have been perfect. But the Vols now control their destiny. Let's review.

1. It's simple, win and you're in- Tennessee was the first team out after the CFP rankings this week. With Ole Miss and Alabama taking upset losses and now going to 8-3, Tennessee will be put in and controls their own destiny. We know Vanderbilt is a much improved football team so the Vols cannot take the Commodores lightly and need to come out faster than they did today. If the Vols take care of Vanderbilt on Saturday, they will be in the College Football Playoff for the first time. You could not ask for a better situation after Indiana got stomped by Ohio State, Ole Miss and Alabama losing, then Texas A&M taking an upset loss. If Texas A&M loses to Texas, the Vols path with a victory over Vanderbilt would be assured.

2. Can the Vols get to Atlanta??? The Vols cannot get to Atlanta. If Texas loses, the tiebreaker for a four way tie is conference opponents winning percentage. Georgia beats Tennessee out, then Texas A&M would be the other team in. Texas wins, they would get in at 7-1 and Georgia would have the tiebreaker over Tennessee. That might not be the worst thing in the world

3. Can Texas A&M still be a fly in the ointment?- Yes. As a Vols fan, you want to cheer for Texas to beat Texas A&M. Just because you don't want to take the chance of Texas A&M winning the SEC title and getting an automatic bid. Now if they beat Texas and Texas A&M lost to Georgia, Tennessee would be fine. TAMU is not getting at 9-4. Tennessee would still look good to get in if A&M won the SEC, but just to be sure it would be best for Texas to win against Texas A&M and face Georgia in a rematch.

4. Can the Vols get a home playoff game?- I personally can't see it barring a major upset. Right now, I would project 5-8 seeds as follows; Big 10 title game loser, SEC title game loser, Penn State and Notre Dame in some order. Texas would get the nod at 11-2 and Ohio State would get the nod at 11-2 (or Oregon at 12-1). Notre Dame would get it at 11-1 and then Penn State at 11-1. And even then Indiana might be ahead of the Vols. I couldn't see the Vols getting a home game over Georgia even with Georgia at 10-3 because they have the head to head. Right now the only way to get the first ever December game in Neyland would be Notre Dame losing to USC next week or Penn State losing to Maryland. Had Penn State lost to Minnesota the Vols would have had a perfect weekend. Alas, the Vols will most likely go on the road if they handle business.

5. Alright, who do you think Tennessee will play?- Right now I think Tennessee will get the 9 seed or the 10 seed. At that point, it would probably be Notre Dame or Penn State. Let's say Georgia and Ohio State win their conferences. Oregon at 12-1 and Texas at 11-2 would get the 5/6 seeds IMO. Penn State would get the 7 seed and then Notre Dame the 8 seed. I think Tennessee in that scenario Tennessee would get the 10 seed and Indiana the 9 seed (in state battle, avoids a conference matchup in the first round). I think Warde Manuel is going to feel the heat from the Big Ten to try and avoid a Penn State/Indiana matchup to try and get four Big Ten teams in the quarterfinals. And with the committee having Indiana so much higher than Tennessee, I think they were setting it up to keep Indiana above Tennessee. But after what happened this weekend, anything can happen. You cannot guarantee anything with college football in 2024.

Z's projected bracket based off vibes & predictions

1 Ohio State 12-1
2 Georgia 11-2
3 SMU 12-1
4 Boise State 12-1

5 Oregon 12-1 vs. 12 Miami 11-2
6 Texas 11-2 vs 11 Arizona State 11-2
7 Penn State 11-1 vs 10 Tennessee 10-2
8 Notre Dame 11-1 vs 9 Indiana 11-1
 
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With a very sluggish start for the Tennessee Volunteers, at around 1:30 PM ET it felt like this was going to be a lackluster weekend for the Tennessee Volunteers. Instead, Tennessee won 59-0 and somehow got 4/5 results that it needed. Had Penn State lost to Minnesota, it would have been perfect. But the Vols now control their destiny. Let's review.

1. It's simple, win and you're in- Tennessee was the first team out after the CFP rankings this week. With Ole Miss and Alabama taking upset losses and now going to 8-3, Tennessee will be put in and controls their own destiny. We know Vanderbilt is a much improved football team so the Vols cannot take the Commodores lightly and need to come out faster than they did today. If the Vols take care of Vanderbilt on Saturday, they will be in the College Football Playoff for the first time. You could not ask for a better situation after Indiana got stomped by Ohio State, Ole Miss and Alabama losing, then Texas A&M taking an upset loss. If Texas A&M loses to Texas, the Vols path with a victory over Vanderbilt would be assured.

2. Can the Vols get to Atlanta??? The Vols cannot get to Atlanta. If Texas loses, the tiebreaker for a four way tie is conference opponents winning percentage. Georgia beats Tennessee out, then Texas A&M would be the other team in. Texas wins, they would get in at 7-1 and Georgia would have the tiebreaker over Tennessee. That might not be the worst thing in the world

3. Can Texas A&M still be a fly in the ointment?- Yes. As a Vols fan, you want to cheer for Texas to beat Texas A&M. Just because you don't want to take the chance of Texas A&M winning the SEC title and getting an automatic bid. Now if they beat Texas and Texas A&M lost to Georgia, Tennessee would be fine. TAMU is not getting at 9-4. Tennessee would still look good to get in if A&M won the SEC, but just to be sure it would be best for Texas to win against Texas A&M and face Georgia in a rematch.

4. Can the Vols get a home playoff game?- I personally can't see it barring a major upset. Right now, I would project 5-8 seeds as follows; Big 10 title game loser, SEC title game loser, Penn State and Notre Dame in some order. Texas would get the nod at 11-2 and Ohio State would get the nod at 11-2 (or Oregon at 12-1). Notre Dame would get it at 11-1 and then Penn State at 11-1. And even then Indiana might be ahead of the Vols. I couldn't see the Vols getting a home game over Georgia even with Georgia at 10-3 because they have the head to head. Right now the only way to get the first ever December game in Neyland would be Notre Dame losing to USC next week or Penn State losing to Maryland. Had Penn State lost to Minnesota the Vols would have had a perfect weekend. Alas, the Vols will most likely go on the road if they handle business.

5. Alright, who do you think Tennessee will play?- Right now I think Tennessee will get the 9 seed or the 10 seed. At that point, it would probably be Notre Dame or Penn State. Let's say Georgia and Ohio State win their conferences. Oregon at 12-1 and Texas at 11-2 would get the 5/6 seeds IMO. Penn State would get the 7 seed and then Notre Dame the 8 seed. I think Tennessee in that scenario Tennessee would get the 10 seed and Indiana the 9 seed (in state battle, avoids a conference matchup in the first round). I think Warde Manuel is going to feel the heat from the Big Ten to try and avoid a Penn State/Indiana matchup to try and get four Big Ten teams in the quarterfinals. And with the committee having Indiana so much higher than Tennessee, I think they were setting it up to keep Indiana above Tennessee. But after what happened this weekend, anything can happen. You cannot guarantee anything with college football in 2024.

Z's projected bracket based off vibes & predictions

1 Ohio State 12-1
2 Georgia 11-2
3 SMU 12-1
4 Boise State 12-1

5 Oregon 12-1 vs. 12 Miami 11-2
6 Texas 11-2 vs 11 Arizona State 11-2
7 Penn State 11-1 vs 10 Tennessee 10-2
8 Notre Dame 11-1 vs 9 Indiana 11-1
We’ll jump IU. Barring a ND loss to USC, we could still potentially get the 8 seed if A&M beats TU by 10+ and then loses the SECCG.
 
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We’ll jump IU. Barring a ND loss to USC, we could still potentially get the 8 seed if A&M beats TU by 10+ and then loses the SECCG.

The rankings on Tuesday will tell the tale. And after this weekend I think any predictions are pre-mature. Still a week and the championship games to go.

I haven't given up just yet on a playoff game at Neyland - but we first must win the play in game to get selected next week in Nashville.
 
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With a very sluggish start for the Tennessee Volunteers, at around 1:30 PM ET it felt like this was going to be a lackluster weekend for the Tennessee Volunteers. Instead, Tennessee won 59-0 and somehow got 4/5 results that it needed. Had Penn State lost to Minnesota, it would have been perfect. But the Vols now control their destiny. Let's review.

1. It's simple, win and you're in- Tennessee was the first team out after the CFP rankings this week. With Ole Miss and Alabama taking upset losses and now going to 8-3, Tennessee will be put in and controls their own destiny. We know Vanderbilt is a much improved football team so the Vols cannot take the Commodores lightly and need to come out faster than they did today. If the Vols take care of Vanderbilt on Saturday, they will be in the College Football Playoff for the first time. You could not ask for a better situation after Indiana got stomped by Ohio State, Ole Miss and Alabama losing, then Texas A&M taking an upset loss. If Texas A&M loses to Texas, the Vols path with a victory over Vanderbilt would be assured.

2. Can the Vols get to Atlanta??? The Vols cannot get to Atlanta. If Texas loses, the tiebreaker for a four way tie is conference opponents winning percentage. Georgia beats Tennessee out, then Texas A&M would be the other team in. Texas wins, they would get in at 7-1 and Georgia would have the tiebreaker over Tennessee. That might not be the worst thing in the world

3. Can Texas A&M still be a fly in the ointment?- Yes. As a Vols fan, you want to cheer for Texas to beat Texas A&M. Just because you don't want to take the chance of Texas A&M winning the SEC title and getting an automatic bid. Now if they beat Texas and Texas A&M lost to Georgia, Tennessee would be fine. TAMU is not getting at 9-4. Tennessee would still look good to get in if A&M won the SEC, but just to be sure it would be best for Texas to win against Texas A&M and face Georgia in a rematch.

4. Can the Vols get a home playoff game?- I personally can't see it barring a major upset. Right now, I would project 5-8 seeds as follows; Big 10 title game loser, SEC title game loser, Penn State and Notre Dame in some order. Texas would get the nod at 11-2 and Ohio State would get the nod at 11-2 (or Oregon at 12-1). Notre Dame would get it at 11-1 and then Penn State at 11-1. And even then Indiana might be ahead of the Vols. I couldn't see the Vols getting a home game over Georgia even with Georgia at 10-3 because they have the head to head. Right now the only way to get the first ever December game in Neyland would be Notre Dame losing to USC next week or Penn State losing to Maryland. Had Penn State lost to Minnesota the Vols would have had a perfect weekend. Alas, the Vols will most likely go on the road if they handle business.

5. Alright, who do you think Tennessee will play?- Right now I think Tennessee will get the 9 seed or the 10 seed. At that point, it would probably be Notre Dame or Penn State. Let's say Georgia and Ohio State win their conferences. Oregon at 12-1 and Texas at 11-2 would get the 5/6 seeds IMO. Penn State would get the 7 seed and then Notre Dame the 8 seed. I think Tennessee in that scenario Tennessee would get the 10 seed and Indiana the 9 seed (in state battle, avoids a conference matchup in the first round). I think Warde Manuel is going to feel the heat from the Big Ten to try and avoid a Penn State/Indiana matchup to try and get four Big Ten teams in the quarterfinals. And with the committee having Indiana so much higher than Tennessee, I think they were setting it up to keep Indiana above Tennessee. But after what happened this weekend, anything can happen. You cannot guarantee anything with college football in 2024.

Z's projected bracket based off vibes & predictions

1 Ohio State 12-1
2 Georgia 11-2
3 SMU 12-1
4 Boise State 12-1

5 Oregon 12-1 vs. 12 Miami 11-2
6 Texas 11-2 vs 11 Arizona State 11-2
7 Penn State 11-1 vs 10 Tennessee 10-2
8 Notre Dame 11-1 vs 9 Indiana 11-1

Why wouldn't you want an A&M win? Texas has played no one and Tennessee would pass a 10-2 Texas. That would also get a home playoff game.
 
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I don’t know how to process this pressure on Vanderbilt week. I’m used to this thread being about Music City or Mayonnaise and stuff. We’ve gotta go into that mega venue of giants and take down Goliath to have a chance at a good season. 🙄 College ball is weird now..
 
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We’ll jump IU. Barring a ND loss to USC, we could still potentially get the 8 seed if A&M beats TU by 10+ and then loses the SECCG.
We should be the 9 seed this week. if A&M beats Texas and USC beats Notre Dame, we have a good shot at moving to #7 before the championship games. If that happens, we could be looking at something like this:
1.Oregon/OSU winner
2. Georgia
3. Miami/SMU winner
4. Boise St
5. Oregon/OSU loser
6. Penn St
7. UT
8. Texas
9. Miami/SMU loser
10. Indiana
11. Big 12 champ
12. South Carolina/Notre Dame/???
 
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If A&M beats Texas then we will be ranked ahead of Texas. Also, if USC beats Notre Dame that will bump us up another spot. Those two things can very likely happen and would not be considered monumental upsets imo. We should be rooting for A&M and USC next weekend and we would be no worse than number 6 overall heading into championship weekend. Also, if Michigan decides to show up for Ohio State that could throw a wrench in things. You would potentially have Ohio State at 10-2 and 10-3 if they lose to Oregon again in the Big Ten championship. I could see us moving all the way up to number 5 overall but would likely be the 6 seed in that situation as long as Miami keeps winning due to automatic conference champions and Penn State being ranked ahead of us. Ultimately I think we end up being the 7 or 8 seed hosting potentially the Big 12 champ or Indiana whenever it’s all said and done. As long as we handle business…
 
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If A&M beats Texas then we will be ranked ahead of Texas. Also, if USC beats Notre Dame that will bump us up another spot. Those two things can very likely happen and would not be considered monumental upsets imo. We should be rooting for A&M and USC next weekend and we would be no worse than number 6 overall heading into championship weekend. Also, if Michigan decides to show up for Ohio State that could throw a wrench in things. You would potentially have Ohio State at 10-2 and 10-3 if they lose to Oregon again in the Big Ten championship. I could see us moving all the way up to number 5 overall but would likely be the 7 seed in that situation due to automatic conference champions and Penn State being ranked ahead of us. Ultimately I think we end up being the 7 or 8 seed hosting potentially the Big 12 champ or Indiana whenever it’s all said and done. As long as we handle business…
Ohio State wont make the big ten game of they lose to Michigan, Penn State will Ryan day won't make it out of the shoe alive either if that happens
 
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We definitely do not want Ohio State losing to many Michigan. It would hurt Tennessee chances of a home game.
In a perfect world, Oregon, Ohio State, Penn State, Texas, Georgia, Notre Dame, Miami, and Indiana would all lose next weekend.
 
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With a very sluggish start for the Tennessee Volunteers, at around 1:30 PM ET it felt like this was going to be a lackluster weekend for the Tennessee Volunteers. Instead, Tennessee won 59-0 and somehow got 4/5 results that it needed. Had Penn State lost to Minnesota, it would have been perfect. But the Vols now control their destiny. Let's review.

1. It's simple, win and you're in- Tennessee was the first team out after the CFP rankings this week. With Ole Miss and Alabama taking upset losses and now going to 8-3, Tennessee will be put in and controls their own destiny. We know Vanderbilt is a much improved football team so the Vols cannot take the Commodores lightly and need to come out faster than they did today. If the Vols take care of Vanderbilt on Saturday, they will be in the College Football Playoff for the first time. You could not ask for a better situation after Indiana got stomped by Ohio State, Ole Miss and Alabama losing, then Texas A&M taking an upset loss. If Texas A&M loses to Texas, the Vols path with a victory over Vanderbilt would be assured.

2. Can the Vols get to Atlanta??? The Vols cannot get to Atlanta. If Texas loses, the tiebreaker for a four way tie is conference opponents winning percentage. Georgia beats Tennessee out, then Texas A&M would be the other team in. Texas wins, they would get in at 7-1 and Georgia would have the tiebreaker over Tennessee. That might not be the worst thing in the world

3. Can Texas A&M still be a fly in the ointment?- Yes. As a Vols fan, you want to cheer for Texas to beat Texas A&M. Just because you don't want to take the chance of Texas A&M winning the SEC title and getting an automatic bid. Now if they beat Texas and Texas A&M lost to Georgia, Tennessee would be fine. TAMU is not getting at 9-4. Tennessee would still look good to get in if A&M won the SEC, but just to be sure it would be best for Texas to win against Texas A&M and face Georgia in a rematch.

4. Can the Vols get a home playoff game?- I personally can't see it barring a major upset. Right now, I would project 5-8 seeds as follows; Big 10 title game loser, SEC title game loser, Penn State and Notre Dame in some order. Texas would get the nod at 11-2 and Ohio State would get the nod at 11-2 (or Oregon at 12-1). Notre Dame would get it at 11-1 and then Penn State at 11-1. And even then Indiana might be ahead of the Vols. I couldn't see the Vols getting a home game over Georgia even with Georgia at 10-3 because they have the head to head. Right now the only way to get the first ever December game in Neyland would be Notre Dame losing to USC next week or Penn State losing to Maryland. Had Penn State lost to Minnesota the Vols would have had a perfect weekend. Alas, the Vols will most likely go on the road if they handle business.

5. Alright, who do you think Tennessee will play?- Right now I think Tennessee will get the 9 seed or the 10 seed. At that point, it would probably be Notre Dame or Penn State. Let's say Georgia and Ohio State win their conferences. Oregon at 12-1 and Texas at 11-2 would get the 5/6 seeds IMO. Penn State would get the 7 seed and then Notre Dame the 8 seed. I think Tennessee in that scenario Tennessee would get the 10 seed and Indiana the 9 seed (in state battle, avoids a conference matchup in the first round). I think Warde Manuel is going to feel the heat from the Big Ten to try and avoid a Penn State/Indiana matchup to try and get four Big Ten teams in the quarterfinals. And with the committee having Indiana so much higher than Tennessee, I think they were setting it up to keep Indiana above Tennessee. But after what happened this weekend, anything can happen. You cannot guarantee anything with college football in 2024.

Z's projected bracket based off vibes & predictions

1 Ohio State 12-1
2 Georgia 11-2
3 SMU 12-1
4 Boise State 12-1

5 Oregon 12-1 vs. 12 Miami 11-2
6 Texas 11-2 vs 11 Arizona State 11-2
7 Penn State 11-1 vs 10 Tennessee 10-2
8 Notre Dame 11-1 vs 9 Indiana 11-1
We’re fine @ND or @PSU.

Just spare us @ UGA.
 
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Why wouldn't you want an A&M win? Texas has played no one and Tennessee would pass a 10-2 Texas. That would also get a home playoff game.

A blowout over Vanderbilt would jump us over Texas. They won 27-24 there and we played uga closer.
 
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Fully disagree that Georgia would be higher seeded with 3 losses. That's not how the rankings have worked for us at any point. Even with the same number of losses we've been consistently ranked behind Alabama after we beat them in 2022 and this year. If Georgia is 10-3 they're a slot or two behind us on the seed line.

We also don't really need to do anything but win to make it per computer projections now. We are >99% if we win out, no matter what else happens. Alabama actually still has a 72 percent chance to make it just by beating Auburn. There's a few paths still out there, with some upsets next weekend, for multiple 3 loss teams to be in and for the ACC to get two bids. So even if Texas A&M wins the SECCG, we are predicted to make it.
 
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A blowout over Vanderbilt would jump us over Texas. They won 27-24 there and we played uga closer.
I'd love to blow them out but I expect a rock fight. No one has beaten them badly this year except South Carolina. Plus we can never seem to just easily get into any meaningful situation in football. There's always gut-wrenching drama for Vol fans.
 

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