We need to have a talk about Glen ...

[woodrow77]

No one seems to be talking about Addison Nichols comments about leaving Tennessee, he said :"Coach Heupel's a great guy, a great coach and has a great program," "Couldn't say a bad thing about him. Definitely learned a lot through my time there, but at the end of the day, I JUST DIDN'T SEE MYSELF HITTING MY FULL POTENTIAL IN THE ROOM I WAS IN." Between those comments and hardly any development from his HS recruits and possibly losing Sanders Jr. to Ohio St. and the very average line play with upperclassmen this year ... Is it time for Heupel to quit being too loyal and fire Elarbee in the off-season ?

 

[BigOrangeFanatic]

People just need to give up on this idea. He...is...not...firing....anyone. We could have a HS level OL and he isn't firing GE.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

One of the fallacies here, which our fans fell prey too, and frankly CFB fans of all sorts fall prey too, is the idea that a bunch of guys who weren't real good the year before, are magically going to be much better with a year of "experience". With the exception of Cooper Mays, none of the current lot has ever impressed a whole lot. I think folks had overinflated expectations expecting the OL to suddenly be world beaters this year. The only way out of this is recruiting the right guys, hopefully we can hang onto to Sanders.

 

[IndianaVol]

No one seems to be talking about Addison Nichols comments about leaving Tennessee, he said :"Coach Heupel's a great guy, a great coach and has a great program," "Couldn't say a bad thing about him. Definitely learned a lot through my time there, but at the end of the day, I JUST DIDN'T SEE MYSELF HITTING MY FULL POTENTIAL IN THE ROOM I WAS IN." Between those comments and hardly any development from his HS recruits and possibly losing Sanders Jr. to Ohio St. and the very average line play with upperclassmen this year ... Is it time for Heupel to quit being too loyal and fire Elarbee in the off-season ?

People just need to give up on this idea. He...is...not...firing....anyone. We could have a HS level OL and he isn't firing GE.

Kind of torn here.
On one hand it's one player's thoughts on the situation...you obviously have to take into account position on the line, ask from the coach to play or not play multiple positions, talent level ahead of that player, incoming talent level, etc.
On the other, it is a highly regarded recruit and you have to wonder if there are others in that room that have the same feelings as well as the inconsistent line play and seemingly lack of growth during the season.
IF Sanders flips and others transfer out, or recruiting drops off for O Line guys, then I'm concerned as it leads to fire producing the smoke.

As far as second comment - THAT, in my opinion, is going to be Heupel's ultimate undoing here. He is going to hold onto a coach one or two seasons longer than he should have and it will be difficult to overcome in the long run.

 

[volfan4evr]

CJH won't fire anyone until he sits in that "hot seat" himself.

 

[onevol74]

You can talk about Glen all you want but the decision making tasks belong to the guy why takes home a $9mil paycheck each year.

 

[utvolpj]

What does Sanders have to do with Elarbee?

 

[sjt18]

No one seems to be talking about Addison Nichols comments about leaving Tennessee, he said :"Coach Heupel's a great guy, a great coach and has a great program," "Couldn't say a bad thing about him. Definitely learned a lot through my time there, but at the end of the day, I JUST DIDN'T SEE MYSELF HITTING MY FULL POTENTIAL IN THE ROOM I WAS IN." Between those comments and hardly any development from his HS recruits and possibly losing Sanders Jr. to Ohio St. and the very average line play with upperclassmen this year ... Is it time for Heupel to quit being too loyal and fire Elarbee in the off-season ?

Do you think your interpretation of that comment and the situation could be wrong?

Maybe Nichols didn't see himself being able to beat out the guys around him? When do teams not lose recruits? If you are recruiting the right guys then other power programs are going to come after them. Are you disappointed when UT takes someone from another top tier program?

What OL performance would satisfy you? The Vols lead the SEC in rushing... by a lot. The Vols are first in yds/attempt. The Vols are mid-pack in pass pro but a lot of that has to do with Nico holding the ball and being as indecisive as you'd expect a young QB to be.

I'm not saying I "know" that Ellarbe is the answer. Possible he's not. I'm saying that neither you nor anyone else here knows either... and the stats don't back you up.

 

[iVolSoHard]

He could have meant that as he wasn't going to get the playing time that he wanted since he wasn't going to be a starter, and that he felt like he was capable of being one.

 

[bigorangepoppa]

What does Sanders have to do with Elarbee?

There are some concerns that he may flip to Ohio State. He was there for their game against Indiana.

 

[volfeeva]

" not hitting my full potential" can mean a lot of different things to different folks. I can't see a coach not allowing a player to reach his potential unless he's riding the bench

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I doubt anyone is going to get fired on a team that is about to be 10-2.

 

[LibertyVol]

There are some concerns that he may flip to Ohio State. He was there for their game against Indiana.

Big Ten football is about as exciting as watching soccer. I just don’t understand why anyone would want to play in the Big Ten with an opportunity to play in the SEC unless they are from the area.

 

[orangebloodgmc]

Big Ten football is about as exciting as watching soccer. I just don’t understand why anyone would want to play in the Big Ten with an opportunity to play in the SEC unless they are from the area.

Plus, freeze their a** off.

 

[LibertyVol]

Plus, freeze their a** off.

I try to watch Big 10 and it is just boring. Watch an SEC game and you can see the difference.

 

[Swiftybaby]

What does Sanders have to do with Elarbee?

He’s the OL coach and prob one of his primary recruiters.

 

[Clad in Big Orange]

What does Sanders have to do with Elarbee?

We are about to lose Sanders, maybe because he knows Elarbee won’t develop him?

 

[kiddiedoc]

I doubt anyone is going to get fired on a team that is about to be 10-2.

With a fantastic rushing offense

 

[SGMVols]

Heupel has never fired an assistant in 7 years as a HC combined between UCF and UT.

I don’t think he’s going to start after making his first ever CFP, folks.

 

[WillisWG]

2nd post and he wants to know if we should cut a coach loose. I think back to where we were when we hired CJH to where we are now and I find it hard to 2nd guess him.

Armchair coaches need recliners to relax in and enjoy the game.

 

[EZE]

I doubt anyone is going to get fired on a team that is about to be 10-2.

And this is THE measuring stick. Some folks act like we’re 2-10 and need some massive coaching overhaul…and it makes no sense.

 

[utvolpj]

We are about to lose Sanders, maybe because he knows Elarbee won’t develop him?

Nothing like that had been stated. In fact the talk is around an agent being involved

 

[utvolpj]

There are some concerns that he may flip to Ohio State. He was there for their game against Indiana.

He’s the OL coach and prob one of his primary recruiters.

Ok and how does his flip have anything to do with Elarbee? Where is that said that his ol coach is a factor? Do you even know who the ol coach is at osu?

 

[Voltopia]

I've tried to write a reply to this nonsensical post three times now, but every time I get about a sentence and a half in and then just start hitting my head on the damn keyboard and then the keycaps go everywhere and I have to go pick them up and put them back on the switches.

 

[farmdogvol]

Nichols left because he didn't want to sit for another year. He knew he wasn't beating out Coop and he wasn't beating out anybody else on the line. He just wanted to start and get more playing time, wasn't happening at UT.