My Take on the CFP

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VolKnight9

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I know there has been a ton of these down through the threads, but I’m curious to see how y’all line up with this. So, here goes.

My biggest argument is the win and in games. I believe that conference champions should be rewarded for winning their conference championship but I don’t believe it should be deserving of a bye. (See Arizona State/Boise State/SMU) I think if you win the conference championship, it should guarantee you a spot but that’s all. No guaranteed top 4 seed. No guaranteed bye for the top 4 ranked conference champs.


My format would be obviously your top ranked teams getting in and all the chips kind of fall where they may as conference champions come into the conversation. For example: Oregon has been ranked #1 for most of the year and have a 12-0 record. They win their conference championship and get placed at #1. SMU has spent most of their year ranked outside the top 15. They win their conference championship and they get ranked 10-12. Here is the issue though. Arizona State has also spent a lot of the year outside the top 15. Instead of winning their conference championship to get a bye and a top 4 seed, put them right there with SMU and give them a 10-12.

To me, they don’t compare teams per se. Georgia and Texas imo would destroy SMU/Arizona St/Boise St but may end up being seeded lower than them. Honestly I just think the win and in’s screw the teams that are actually better teams than those higher than them.

Secondly, why is it that everyone claims SEC bias? Think about the games that are played throughout the year. Example

Big 10:
Ohio State-Michigan
Ohio State-Penn State
Oregon-Ohio State
Oregon-Penn State
Penn State-Wisconsin
Couple more


SEC:
Alabama-Tennessee
Tennessee-Georgia
Tennessee-Florida
LSU-Alabama
Georgia-Florida
Georgia-Texas
Texas-Oklahoma
Florida-LSU
South Carolina-Clemson
Ole Miss-Georgia
Ole Miss-Florida

tons and tons more potential games depending on scheduling.


Tennessee has almost as many “big” games as the whole Big10. Georgia does too. Alabama as well… just never understood that. Get Indiana and Penn State out of there.
 
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VolKnight9 said:
I know there has been a ton of these down through the threads, but I’m curious to see how y’all line up with this. So, here goes.

My biggest argument is the win and in games. I believe that conference champions should be rewarded for winning their conference championship but I don’t believe it should be deserving of a bye. (See Arizona State/Boise State/SMU) I think if you win the conference championship, it should guarantee you a spot but that’s all. No guaranteed top 4 seed. No guaranteed bye for the top 4 ranked conference champs.


My format would be obviously your top ranked teams getting in and all the chips kind of fall where they may as conference champions come into the conversation. For example: Oregon has been ranked #1 for most of the year and have a 12-0 record. They win their conference championship and get placed at #1. SMU has spent most of their year ranked outside the top 15. They win their conference championship and they get ranked 10-12. Here is the issue though. Arizona State has also spent a lot of the year outside the top 15. Instead of winning their conference championship to get a bye and a top 4 seed, put them right there with SMU and give them a 10-12.

To me, they don’t compare teams per se. Georgia and Texas imo would destroy SMU/Arizona St/Boise St but may end up being seeded lower than them. Honestly I just think the win and in’s screw the teams that are actually better teams than those higher than them.

Secondly, why is it that everyone claims SEC bias? Think about the games that are played throughout the year. Example

Big 10:
Ohio State-Michigan
Ohio State-Penn State
Oregon-Ohio State
Oregon-Penn State
Penn State-Wisconsin
Couple more


SEC:
Alabama-Tennessee
Tennessee-Georgia
Tennessee-Florida
LSU-Alabama
Georgia-Florida
Georgia-Texas
Texas-Oklahoma
Florida-LSU
South Carolina-Clemson
Ole Miss-Georgia
Ole Miss-Florida

tons and tons more potential games depending on scheduling.


Tennessee has almost as many “big” games as the whole Big10. Georgia does too. Alabama as well… just never understood that. Get Indiana and Penn State out of there.
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Well you’re definitely showing bias by including Oklahoma and Florida as “big” games when neither has sniffed a poll in months, yet you don’t include a 1 loss Indiana team
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Well you’re definitely showing bias by including Oklahoma and Florida as “big” games when neither has sniffed a poll in months, yet you don’t include a 1 loss Indiana team
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I must add too that I believe that in the current format , Penn State and Indiana are probably where they should be. But I think Ole Miss and South Carolina probably beat Penn State and for sure Indiana. But they’ll be left out. I know a lot of this is speculation but what else to we have at this point. It’s just simply very evident that they’re not putting the 12 best teams in.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Okay then Michigan-Michigan State, UCLA-USC, Washington-Oregon, and a host of other Big 10 games are big. The Battle for Paul Bunyan’s Ax
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As I said, there are others. You weren’t paying attention. You’ll also notice I didn’t mention a matchup when 2 teams are in the mid-cellar of there conference most years which would make USC-UCLA pretty irrelevant regardless of the rivalry as both teams are hardly contending for their conference championship these days. As I said, there are other games but if you want to consider teams that are sub-par year in and year out for big games, you’ll have to add a ton of other SEC games.
 
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I don't understand having Boise State over Big12. Boise State, to me, belongs in 11 or 12th spot. Their resume is a joke.

Big12 is at least competitive with teams like Kansas State, Arizona State, BYU, Colorado, TCU, Iowa State, etc.

Boise State hasn't beaten anyone of merit other than UNLV (which they survived) and Wazzau. I don't get the Boise State hype/love or the hype around their RB.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Okay then Michigan-Michigan State, UCLA-USC, Washington-Oregon, and a host of other Big 10 games are big. The Battle for Paul Bunyan’s Ax
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If you take out the expansion teams,

No one from the B1G outside of Michigan or Ohio State has won a title since 1960. It is basically a 2-team league. Oregon has made it a 3-team league and Penn State has been very solid but the rest of the B1G is not that good.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I don't understand having Boise State over Big12. Boise State, to me, belongs in 11 or 12th spot. Their resume is a joke.

Big12 is at least competitive with teams like Kansas State, Arizona State, BYU, Colorado, TCU, Iowa State, etc.

Boise State hasn't beaten anyone of merit other than UNLV (which they survived) and Wazzau. I don't get the Boise State hype/love or the hype around their RB.
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I think honestly with any Group of 5 team, that story is always gonna be the same. I do like the idea of the Group of 5 team making it but from a football perspective, it’s gonna result in a bye game for whoever plays them more times than now. Take Boise out and put in Ole Miss/Miami/USCjr and you’ll have much better competition.
 
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Warde Manuel head of Committee is about as bad a communicator as Kamala Harris with his word salad non answers I’ve heard about 20 different ppl trying to explain what he said and everyone took it different in some aspect. I was more confused and frustrated after listening to him. My advice to him is never run for any election.
 
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VolKnight9 said:
I think honestly with any Group of 5 team, that story is always gonna be the same. I do like the idea of the Group of 5 team making it but from a football perspective, it’s gonna result in a bye game for whoever plays them more times than now. Take Boise out and put in Ole Miss/Miami/USCjr and you’ll have much better competition.
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I do think there are years where G5 team should have made it such as 2017 UCF or some of the past Boise State teams. This year's Boise State team doesn't seem that strong IMO but we will see.
 
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