Oline and WR coaches

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BleedOrange81 said:
Heup is like fulmer to loyal to his staff and especially elarbee…
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Did you forget what things were like before CJH got here? We were losing to Ga State and BYU. Some of yall are like DV victims. Yall get in a good relationship and it's too boring, not enough chaos. So yall do 1 of 2 things, create chaos or go back to someone that gives you the chaos that you're seeking. There's no need to change coaches, the difference is players. An honest assessment of rosters for OSU and TN tells you all you need to know.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Did you forget what things were like before CJH got here? We were losing to Ga State and BYU. Some of yall are like DV victims. Yall get in a good relationship and it's too boring, not enough chaos. So yall do 1 of 2 things, create chaos or go back to someone that gives you the chaos that you're seeking. There's no need to change coaches, the difference is players. An honest assessment of rosters for OSU and TN tells you all you need to know.
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This isn't a marriage. It's a business. When there are weak links in the business you have to shore them up. Ellarbee, Pope and Martinez are liabilities.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Did you forget what things were like before CJH got here? We were losing to Ga State and BYU. Some of yall are like DV victims. Yall get in a good relationship and it's too boring, not enough chaos. So yall do 1 of 2 things, create chaos or go back to someone that gives you the chaos that you're seeking. There's no need to change coaches, the difference is players. An honest assessment of rosters for OSU and TN tells you all you need to know.
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I agree and I was there at both games. But a lot of it is coaching or lack there of. Haven’t seen any development from the oline, wrs, etc..these players see product on the field and go else where to get coached. It’s a fair point…
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
As long as we keep Banks, I'm good. People can say what they want, but we don't go 10-3 if our defense didn't bail us out. He could very well get a HC job, but I hope we keep him. He's the best DC we have had in a while.
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Zero combined sacks against Georgia and OSU. The safety group that he coaches got exposed and he NEVER adjusted or took away the short throw out of the backfield. We knew what Banks was when Matt Corral ran QB draw for the 80th time and he never adjusted. He’s a decent DC. I wouldn’t shed a tear if he left. It’s telling that when the game was on the line he couldn’t stop Arkansas backup QB for one drive.
 
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UTK said:
Who do we want if CJH does what needs to be done. Anyone got any ideas? Maybe even an OC candidate?
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We need a new OC.I don't care what anyone says....Anyone..... This run up the middle and a wr screen pass crap has got to go. There is ZERO creativity in play calling.

Ffs last night was pathetic.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
This isn't a marriage. It's a business. When there are weak links in the business you have to shore them up. Ellarbee, Pope and Martinez are liabilities.
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According to whom? The Oline were Joe Moore Award finalist again. The WR have been fine, but the past 2 years there have been QB deficiencies, and the CBs have been fine. But I guess when kids are upset they lash out at everyone.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
According to whom? The Oline were Joe Moore Award finalist again. The WR have been fine, but the past 2 years there have been QB deficiencies, and the CBs have been fine. But I guess when kids are upset they lash out at everyone.
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Against inferior competition the DBs and OL have looked great. They got their teeth kicked in against good competition. I've long been a believer our WRs haven't done anything to help Milton or Nico. They never dive or reach out for catches it seems like. These coaches aren't getting it done. We can continue to bully lesser competition but to raise the bar we need to upgrade.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
As long as we keep Banks, I'm good. People can say what they want, but we don't go 10-3 if our defense didn't bail us out. He could very well get a HC job, but I hope we keep him. He's the best DC we have had in a while.
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I wish he would leave. I would fire him. He is terrible against really good offenses. If you ever watch him at press conference, you can see he is clueless
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
According to whom? The Oline were Joe Moore Award finalist again. The WR have been fine, but the past 2 years there have been QB deficiencies, and the CBs have been fine. But I guess when kids are upset they lash out at everyone.
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Anyone can get on that Joe Moore list, good lord awards are an absolute joke and have been proven to be a joke over and over through the years! This OL has been a sieve and as proven also, we are having to play portal guys instead of our own OL recruits, both of those are due to cosching as it shows either bad evaluations or no development! WR room is a joke, not a one of them would start at a top team in the country, I love Bru and squirrel, but they wouldn’t play at OSU, UGA, Texas etc and that’s what you have to have to be a top team in the CFP. We bring in highly rated WR and they barely even see the field and transfer out, so again either bad evaluations or development. DB’s were alright, but against UGA and OSU they wouldn’t turn around and spot the ball and our DC sure didn’t put them in good situations either. So not sure if you are just used to suckage due to also being a Titans fan like me, but mediocrity shouldn’t be accepted and besides Bama, we didn’t beat a good team this season and even they proved losing to Vandy and Okie badly that they weren’t very good either.
 
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BleedOrange81 said:
I agree and I was there at both games. But a lot of it is coaching or lack there of. Haven’t seen any development from the oline, wrs, etc..these players see product on the field and go else where to get coached. It’s a fair point…
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Do you think that the coaches are getting the most out of the players that they have?
 
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UTK said:
Who do we want if CJH does what needs to be done. Anyone got any ideas? Maybe even an OC candidate?
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Steve Addazio and Zach Smith. They come from a tree of a coach that is despised by our fanbase, but are two guys that come from programs with championship pedigree that know what type of discipline and fire need to be instilled in the players to build a championship program. They’re elite recruiters and developers of talent at their positions as well. With the way Smith was fired at Ohio State it’s not likely that happens, but it would be a great hire. The issue we’re going to have with finding a WR coach is any great one isn’t going to want to develop players in this system because what we run doesn’t prepare players to play in the NFL. At some point Heupel is going to have to run tighter splits so receivers will at least have the real estate to threaten a defense with the entire route tree
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
As long as we keep Banks, I'm good. People can say what they want, but we don't go 10-3 if our defense didn't bail us out. He could very well get a HC job, but I hope we keep him. He's the best DC we have had in a while.
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It’d be silly to get rid of Banks ultimately but dude is gonna have to take a next step eventually. When his initial game plan doesn’t work in big games, he has no answers.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
This isn't a marriage. It's a business. When there are weak links in the business you have to shore them up. Ellarbee, Pope and Martinez are liabilities.
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Banks, Ekeler and Martinez all have their contracts expire at the end of January 2025.
 
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