The Real Problem Behind the Meltdown

[Volheaven50]

OK. I'll say it here and probably get roasted for it,

Too many SEC fans are delusional and not keeping up with what's been happening the last 2 to 3 years in CF - including many on this board

First, it comes down to $$$$ - like it or not - and that translates to TV money and eyeballs. Have you noticed what the Big Ten is doing as of late? They're after - and getting - huge TV markets.... New York City, Philly, Wash DC, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, Minneapolis, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, Los Angeles, Seattle, Portland and on and on and I know I've missed a few. All are markets over 2.5 million people. That translates to around 51 to 52 % of the CF TV markets-eyeballs in the country. I think I've read that the SEC controls 35 to 37%. Like it or not, the Big Ten is here to stay.

Don't think so? Michigan and Washington - both current Big Ten members - Played for NC last year with Michigan winning it. And many so-called experts think this year's winner will come out of the Oregon - OSU game - both being Big Ten powerhouses.....and they could end up playing Penn State in the final. In fact, OSU could have 16 to 18 players drafted in the next NFL draft which would break Georgia's record of 15 a few years ago.

With that said, is the SEC still the top CF conference. Yes, probably, but not by much as it used to be. It's minimal now - if at all. I'm just tired of listening to many Vol fans bitch and complain about what happened on Saturday night. We got obviously beat by a better team but I know a few Vol fans that just thought that we were going to go up to Columbus and slap the hell out of them.....you know, SEC, SEC, SEC. Wake up people (Some of you anyways).

 

[Cartervol]

Let's see. Top to bottom yes the SEC is still better. Indiana made the CPF and Vanderbilt might could beat them..The new NIL and expanded playoff may draw the two conferences closer. Look at the recruiting rankings though for further proof..

 

[Volheaven50]

Let's see. Top to bottom yes the SEC is still better. Indiana made the CPF and Vanderbilt might could beat them..The new NIL and expanded playoff may draw the two conferences closer. Look at the recruiting rankings though for further proof..

Agree. My point is that the days of the SEC automatically assuming to go in and win the NC are over - LONG OVER. There are powerhouse teams now in the Big Ten. I guess I just got tired of some of my Vol fans complaining how the OSU loss was a fluke and hammering on Heupel and the team. That OSU team - when things are clicking - is a total nightmare for anybody. I think their biggest issue is at HC as Ryan Day sometimes looks like a deer in headlights (except on last Saturday).

 

[vol94]

Ohio state has the best roster on paper. Their payroll is about $22 million vs. TN’ $14 million. Ohio state has better players/ simply put. Their only deficiency is the oline, which looked good vs. TN. Of course, they out schemed us by pulling guards, misdirection and pre-snap motion causing much confusion for TN defense and coaches.

 

[Okie]

OK. I'll say it here and probably get roasted for it,

Too many SEC fans are delusional and not keeping up with what's been happening the last 2 to 3 years in CF - including many on this board

First, it comes down to $$$$ - like it or not - and that translates to TV money and eyeballs. Have you noticed what the Big Ten is doing as of late? They're after - and getting - huge TV markets.... New York City, Philly, Wash DC, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, Minneapolis, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, Los Angeles, Seattle, Portland and on and on and I know I've missed a few. All are markets over 2.5 million people. That translates to around 51 to 52 % of the CF TV markets-eyeballs in the country. I think I've read that the SEC controls 35 to 37%. Like it or not, the Big Ten is here to stay.

Don't think so? Michigan and Washington - both current Big Ten members - Played for NC last year with Michigan winning it. And many so-called experts think this year's winner will come out of the Oregon - OSU game - both being Big Ten powerhouses.....and they could end up playing Penn State in the final. In fact, OSU could have 16 to 18 players drafted in the next NFL draft which would break Georgia's record of 15 a few years ago.

With that said, is the SEC still the top CF conference. Yes, probably, but not by much as it used to be. It's minimal now - if at all. I'm just tired of listening to many Vol fans bitch and complain about what happened on Saturday night. We got obviously beat by a better team but I know a few Vol fans that just thought that we were going to go up to Columbus and slap the hell out of them.....you know, SEC, SEC, SEC. Wake up people (Some of you anyways).

Great points. Maybe we got outplayed and outcoached. It could be either or both. It doesn't matter, though, because we can't win a NC.

I keep reading how JH isn't the guy to bring a NC to the Vols. A quick read through posts on this forum will tell all of the whys that he can't do it.

Then, I read that it can't be done by anyone who isn't Ohio State, Oregon or Texas because of the amount of money they spend. It goes on with how no one can match the $, so winning a NC is not possible anymore except for a few teams will $20+ million in NIL each year.

Since it can't be done without $ we don't have, let's quit complaining and be thankful that we are not one of the 90+ teams who are not in the SEC/Big10. Those teams are really going to struggle from here on out.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Top to bottom, starting with our weakest vs their weakest all the way to our best vs their best, the SEC would wipe the floor with the Big 10.

The fact that we are the third best and got annihilated by the team that is probably their second best, or possibly their best, doesn't change that. That was an awful matchup for us.

But I would comfortably predict that if our 14 played their 14, we win somewhere around 9-10 of them.

 

[Aerie Vol]

Top to bottom, starting with our weakest vs their weakest all the way to our best vs their best, the SEC would wipe the floor with the Big 10.

The fact that we are the third best and got annihilated by the team that is probably their second best, or possibly their best, doesn't change that. That was an awful matchup for us.

But I would comfortably predict that if our 14 played their 14, we win somewhere around 9-10 of them.

It’s 16 now and we probably win 12.

 

[njvols]

Ohio state has the best roster on paper. Their payroll is about $22 million vs. TN’ $14 million. Ohio state has better players/ simply put. Their only deficiency is the oline, which looked good vs. TN. Of course, they out schemed us by pulling guards, misdirection and pre-snap motion causing much confusion for TN defense and coaches.

IMO, an area where JH needs to pivot. If we're truly going fast, and we implement more misdirection & pre-snap motion, I think it adds a degree of complexity.

The talent gap is real though b/t us and the top 4-6 teams in CFB...think JH has a good "in the building" culture, and obviously facilities and fan support is top notch...need NIL $$$ to do major work in portal to fill most glaring needs.