I'll start worrying when....

#5
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KINGSVOL said:
The players that enter the portal wind up being starters and major contributors on the teams above us.

If they don't wanna be here, for whatever reason, I don't want them here.

This rule applies to fans, coaches, and players.

GBO!
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Exactly!! Fact is we overachieved at 10-2 this year. Next two years can be special if we add the right pieces.
 
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CAVPUT said:
I'll be shocked if that happens.
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I won't. Heupel is 'loyal' per reports. That is a recipe for disaster.

To be a successful HC, you have to have a touch of stone cold killer in you. Saban, Spurrier, Meyer, all the truly great HBCs know/knew when to pull chocks and let a coach go. The best HBCs seem to always be cycling staff because they do NOT tolerate mediocre results, and the coaches that stick with them for a few years end up heading off to be HBCs themselves.

Great HBCs are NOT afraid of hiring strong personalities with strong ambitions. That's what sunk Fulmer. He seemed to be so afraid of what happened to Majors (that he initiated) that he refused to hire ambitious coaches. As a result we had Randy Sanders calling bubble screens for 7 years. We had Chavis giving up 3rd and 19 so many times the answer itself is a limit function.

Heupel seems like a great guy, and I think we all like him and want him to succeed for many reasons. Question is - does he have 'it' to be a great HBC? Time will tell.
 
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VolInNW said:
I won't. Heupel is 'loyal' per reports. That is a recipe for disaster.

To be a successful HC, you have to have a touch of stone cold killer in you. Saban, Spurrier, Meyer, all the truly great HBCs know/knew when to pull chocks and let a coach go. The best HBCs seem to always be cycling staff because they do NOT tolerate mediocre results, and the coaches that stick with them for a few years end up heading off to be HBCs themselves.

Great HBCs are NOT afraid of hiring strong personalities with strong ambitions. That's what sunk Fulmer. He seemed to be so afraid of what happened to Majors (that he initiated) that he refused to hire ambitious coaches. As a result we had Randy Sanders calling bubble screens for 7 years. We had Chavis giving up 3rd and 19 so many times the answer itself is a limit function.

Heupel seems like a great guy, and I think we all like him and want him to succeed for many reasons. Question is - does he have 'it' to be a great HBC? Time will tell.
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He has never fired...let go an assistant coach since he's been a HC.
 
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VolInNW said:
I won't. Heupel is 'loyal' per reports. That is a recipe for disaster.

To be a successful HC, you have to have a touch of stone cold killer in you. Saban, Spurrier, Meyer, all the truly great HBCs know/knew when to pull chocks and let a coach go. The best HBCs seem to always be cycling staff because they do NOT tolerate mediocre results, and the coaches that stick with them for a few years end up heading off to be HBCs themselves.

Great HBCs are NOT afraid of hiring strong personalities with strong ambitions. That's what sunk Fulmer. He seemed to be so afraid of what happened to Majors (that he initiated) that he refused to hire ambitious coaches. As a result we had Randy Sanders calling bubble screens for 7 years. We had Chavis giving up 3rd and 19 so many times the answer itself is a limit function.

Heupel seems like a great guy, and I think we all like him and want him to succeed for many reasons. Question is - does he have 'it' to be a great HBC? Time will tell.
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What happens with Heupel's philosophy is that anyone with promise finds a promotion elsewhere while those that noone wants are the ones left on your coaching staff.
 
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THEONLYTENISEE said:
I’ll be worried if there’s no changes to position coaches.
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Why do UT fans always wanna fire a coach? Were anyone them on the field causing false starts? Not getting open on softly ran routes? Missing blitz pick up assigments?

I get that it is their job to teach these things, but maybe they are and the players just are not executing. We will never know since we are not in meeting rooms or practice.

Seems the secondary got better this year with better players. Coaches can coach X's and O's but it stills down to the Jimmy's and Joe's.
 
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Golfprovol said:
Why do UT fans always wanna fire a coach? Were anyone them on the field causing false starts? Not getting open on softly ran routes? Missing blitz pick up assigments?

I get that it is their job to teach these things, but maybe they are and the players just are not executing. We will never know since we are not in meeting rooms or practice.

Seems the secondary got better this year with better players. Coaches can coach X's and O's but it stills down to the Jimmy's and Joe's.
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If you can’t see we need better coaching and recruiting at the WR and OL position then you are just not seeing it. Our WRs have gotten progressively worse since Kodi Burns left. This year is the make or break year for Elarbee imo.

The elite head coaches evaluate their staff every year. When you see the exact same things happening game in game out then at some point you have to blame coaching. If the players aren’t executing, then why? Are they jot motivated? Are they not being developed? Players are to blame but coaching matters big time/
 
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Golfprovol said:
Why do UT fans always wanna fire a coach? Were anyone them on the field causing false starts? Not getting open on softly ran routes? Missing blitz pick up assigments?

I get that it is their job to teach these things, but maybe they are and the players just are not executing. We will never know since we are not in meeting rooms or practice.

Seems the secondary got better this year with better players. Coaches can coach X's and O's but it stills down to the Jimmy's and Joe's.
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Who recruited these Jimmy's and Joe's.
 
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Golfprovol said:
Why do UT fans always wanna fire a coach? Were anyone them on the field causing false starts? Not getting open on softly ran routes? Missing blitz pick up assigments?

I get that it is their job to teach these things, but maybe they are and the players just are not executing. We will never know since we are not in meeting rooms or practice.

Seems the secondary got better this year with better players. Coaches can coach X's and O's but it stills down to the Jimmy's and Joe's.
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OC, WR, O Line. The stats show a decline.
 
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KINGSVOL said:
The players that enter the portal wind up being starters and major contributors on the teams above us.

If they don't wanna be here, for whatever reason, I don't want them here.

This rule applies to fans, coaches, and players.

GBO!
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Real fans never contemplate hitting the portal. Both of our teams are better off without fans that do this
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
If you can’t see we need better coaching and recruiting at the WR and OL position then you are just not seeing it. Our WRs have gotten progressively worse since Kodi Burns left. This year is the make or break year for Elarbee imo.

The elite head coaches evaluate their staff every year. When you see the exact same things happening game in game out then at some point you have to blame coaching. If the players aren’t executing, then why? Are they jot motivated? Are they not being developed? Players are to blame but coaching matters big time/
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Elite head coaches have their staff hired away to a promotion and more money. Heupel has got to take his feelings out of it and make some hard choices.
 
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VolInNW said:
I won't. Heupel is 'loyal' per reports. That is a recipe for disaster.

To be a successful HC, you have to have a touch of stone cold killer in you. Saban, Spurrier, Meyer, all the truly great HBCs know/knew when to pull chocks and let a coach go. The best HBCs seem to always be cycling staff because they do NOT tolerate mediocre results, and the coaches that stick with them for a few years end up heading off to be HBCs themselves.

Great HBCs are NOT afraid of hiring strong personalities with strong ambitions. That's what sunk Fulmer. He seemed to be so afraid of what happened to Majors (that he initiated) that he refused to hire ambitious coaches. As a result we had Randy Sanders calling bubble screens for 7 years. We had Chavis giving up 3rd and 19 so many times the answer itself is a limit function.

Heupel seems like a great guy, and I think we all like him and want him to succeed for many reasons. Question is - does he have 'it' to be a great HBC? Time will tell.
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IMO….will see how loyal he is if he starts getting some real heat, like as in a 7-5 or 6-6 or worse season. He probably doesn’t feel any heat (out of the ordinary heat that comes with running a major program) nor should he. When he was hired, speculation was that this would be the year that would be possible to have a winning season because the program was in such bad shape. Hopefully he’s on top of the issues that need to be addressed and will continue building and improving. If I remember correctly, Saban didn’t fire many assistants, they just advanced to positions at other programs.
 
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Zues1 said:
Who recruited these Jimmy's and Joe's.
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Some people have it and some don't. All NBA players are good but some are just better, but there isn't any way to know prior to seeing them. Is that their coaches fault?

UF QB's were awesome in college, but terrible in the NFL. Coaches fault?
 
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Golfprovol said:
Why do UT fans always wanna fire a coach? Were anyone them on the field causing false starts? Not getting open on softly ran routes? Missing blitz pick up assigments?

I get that it is their job to teach these things, but maybe they are and the players just are not executing. We will never know since we are not in meeting rooms or practice.

Seems the secondary got better this year with better players. Coaches can coach X's and O's but it stills down to the Jimmy's and Joe's.
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What's that old saying about coaching it or allowing it to happen
 
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