Heupel Has Earned the Trust

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Here’s a fact for all to consider. The NIL valuation has been completely reset. The Tulane QB getting 2 years for 8 million from DUKE!!??!!?? If we think what we were paying 2 years ago, or even 12 months ago is going to keep elite talent in the fold, we’re badly mistaken. I know it’s a hard pill to swallow for some of us who were raised up in the day of loyalty to team, teammates, coaches and fans. Those loyalties are all very much a far, far second to money now. That’s just how it is. I don’t know if Matthews has the potential to be elite, but I guarantee you Josh Heupel, after watching him for a year, has a very good take on it. If he is deemed deserving we will pay him and keep him. If he’s not, there may be someone else out there who hasn’t seen him that may take a flyer on him. I am comfortable with Heupel’s evaluation. We were sitting here 12 months ago, firing Martinez, bemoaning almost all of the secondary’s exit. What we didn’t know then was that Heupel would upgrade at each and every portal loss either through youth or the portal. I think he has earned the right for us to trust him again this year. He didn’t suddenly get dumb in 12 months anymore than Martinez got brilliant in 12 months. Trust the man. He’s earned it. If Pope can’t do the job, you can bet Heupel knows it. Everyone wanted Martinez gone 12 months ago. After multiple portal exits and a new crop of talent, Martinez had one of the best secondaries in the nation this year. Take a breath folks.
 
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Here’s a fact for all to consider. The NIL valuation has been completely reset. The Tulane QB getting 2 years for 8 million from DUKE!!??!!?? If we think what we were paying 2 years ago, or even 12 months ago is going to keep elite talent in the fold, we’re badly mistaken. I know it’s a hard pill to swallow for some of us who were raised up in the day of loyalty to team, teammates, coaches and fans. Those loyalties are all very much a far, far second to money now. That’s just how it is. I don’t know if Matthews has the potential to be elite, but I guarantee you Josh Heupel, after watching him for a year, has a very good take on it. If he is deemed deserving we will pay him and keep him. If he’s not, there may be someone else out there who hasn’t seen him that may take a flyer on him. I am comfortable with Heupel’s evaluation. We were sitting here 12 months ago, firing Martinez, bemoaning almost all of the secondary’s exit. What we didn’t know then was that Heupel would upgrade at each and every portal loss either through youth or the portal. I think he has earned the right for us to trust him again this year. He didn’t suddenly get dumb in 12 months anymore than Martinez got brilliant in 12 months. Trust the man. He’s earned it. If Pope can’t do the job, you can bet Heupel knows it. Everyone wanted Martinez gone 12 months ago. After multiple portal exits and a new crop of talent, Martinez had one of the best secondaries in the nation this year. Take a breath folks.
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OldVol said:
Here’s a fact for all to consider. The NIL valuation has been completely reset. The Tulane QB getting 2 years for 8 million from DUKE!!??!!?? If we think what we were paying 2 years ago, or even 12 months ago is going to keep elite talent in the fold, we’re badly mistaken. I know it’s a hard pill to swallow for some of us who were raised up in the day of loyalty to team, teammates, coaches and fans. Those loyalties are all very much a far, far second to money now. That’s just how it is. I don’t know if Matthews has the potential to be elite, but I guarantee you Josh Heupel, after watching him for a year, has a very good take on it. If he is deemed deserving we will pay him and keep him. If he’s not, there may be someone else out there who hasn’t seen him that may take a flyer on him. I am comfortable with Heupel’s evaluation. We were sitting here 12 months ago, firing Martinez, bemoaning almost all of the secondary’s exit. What we didn’t know then was that Heupel would upgrade at each and every portal loss either through youth or the portal. I think he has earned the right for us to trust him again this year. He didn’t suddenly get dumb in 12 months anymore than Martinez got brilliant in 12 months. Trust the man. He’s earned it. If Pope can’t do the job, you can bet Heupel knows it. Everyone wanted Martinez gone 12 months ago. After multiple portal exits and a new crop of talent, Martinez had one of the best secondaries in the nation this year. Take a breath folks.
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Dude, paragraphs please. I would love to read it but on a phone. I would be cross eyed after...lol
 
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This board has gotten so toxic with idiotic comments from ingrates who somehow believe it is UT's birthright to be a top 5 program annually.

We go through a decade and a f***king half in the cesspool, hire a coach who provides two top 10 seasons out of four, and now his days are numbered ... off a playoff appearance!

I'm willing to bet most of you aren't a fraction as demanding in your own lives. But as keyboard warriors discussing a college football team you are fierce.

I would guess that this faction is a small percentage of the fan base, but unfortunately it's this group who seems to believe that their every utterance needs to be heard. And half of them do so by starting a new thread with a variation of the same whining theme.
 
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Vol8188 said:
What was suspect? We had one of the best seasons in the last 20 years
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Exactly, if someone was in a coma and woke up with no knowledge of the season and read some of these post. They'd say, I guess we are still in the Derek Dooley days wondering around in the desert for 15+ years, if Heupel don't get us to 6 & 6 and a Bowl game next year FAHR him, by GAWD.
 
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sami said:
This board has gotten so toxic with idiotic comments from ingrates who somehow believe it is UT's birthright to be a top 5 program annually.

We go through a decade and a f***king half in the cesspool, hire a coach who provides two top 10 seasons out of four, and now his days are numbered ... off a playoff appearance!

I'm willing to bet most of you aren't a fraction as demanding in your own lives. But as keyboard warriors discussing a college football team you are fierce.

I would guess that this faction is a small percentage of the fan base, but unfortunately it's this group who seems to believe that their every utterance needs to be heard.
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Where the hell did all these people come from? I don’t remember this many people giving Pruitt crap even.
 
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sami said:
This board has gotten so toxic with idiotic comments from ingrates who somehow believe it is UT's birthright to be a top 5 program annually.

We go through a decade and a f***king half in the cesspool, hire a coach who provides two top 10 seasons out of four, and now his days are numbered ... off a playoff appearance!

I'm willing to bet most of you aren't a fraction as demanding in your own lives. But as keyboard warriors discussing a college football team you are fierce.

I would guess that this faction is a small percentage of the fan base, but unfortunately it's this group who seems to believe that their every utterance needs to be heard.
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The truth is we have not had great teams since Neyland coached. I've been a Vol fan for over 60 years, we have a really good season, then a few average, a few bad, another good one and so on. We have never put many really good seasons over several years. But, there is one thing that is elite at Tennessee, that's the fan base, we don't agree on a lot of things but we love the Vols the same.
 
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OldVol said:
Here’s a fact for all to consider. The NIL valuation has been completely reset. The Tulane QB getting 2 years for 8 million from DUKE!!??!!?? If we think what we were paying 2 years ago, or even 12 months ago is going to keep elite talent in the fold, we’re badly mistaken. I know it’s a hard pill to swallow for some of us who were raised up in the day of loyalty to team, teammates, coaches and fans. Those loyalties are all very much a far, far second to money now. That’s just how it is. I don’t know if Matthews has the potential to be elite, but I guarantee you Josh Heupel, after watching him for a year, has a very good take on it. If he is deemed deserving we will pay him and keep him. If he’s not, there may be someone else out there who hasn’t seen him that may take a flyer on him. I am comfortable with Heupel’s evaluation. We were sitting here 12 months ago, firing Martinez, bemoaning almost all of the secondary’s exit. What we didn’t know then was that Heupel would upgrade at each and every portal loss either through youth or the portal. I think he has earned the right for us to trust him again this year. He didn’t suddenly get dumb in 12 months anymore than Martinez got brilliant in 12 months. Trust the man. He’s earned it. If Pope can’t do the job, you can bet Heupel knows it. Everyone wanted Martinez gone 12 months ago. After multiple portal exits and a new crop of talent, Martinez had one of the best secondaries in the nation this year. Take a breath folks.
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Ummm…I guess that’s one way to look at it. Another is that every player who has hit the portal was evaluated and recruited by this staff. And they whiffed on all of them.
 
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Hank Bukowski said:
Ummm…I guess that’s one way to look at it. Another is that every player who has hit the portal was evaluated and recruited by this staff. And they whiffed on all of them.
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So if the staff recruits multiple players to a position and some end up better than others the staff whiffed? That's pretty ridiculous
 
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Rocky Top T said:
The truth is we have not had great teams since Neyland coached. I've been a Vol fan for over 60 years, we have a really good season, then a few average, a few bad, another good one and so on. We have never put many really good seasons over several years. But, there is one thing that is elite at Tennessee, that's the fan base, we don't agree on a lot of things but we love the Vols the same.
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Had a stretch from 1989 to 2001 that had no bad seasons, and only a couple could be called average in that span. 94 and 2000
 
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Hank Bukowski said:
Ummm…I guess that’s one way to look at it. Another is that every player who has hit the portal was evaluated and recruited by this staff. And they whiffed on all of them.
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So if a player doesn't turn out as elite or great it was a whiff ?

That's some pretty lofty expectations for a team that just 4 years ago, was a joke and being hit with NCAA sanctions
 
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