Observation & Question

[a vol n tears]

After watching how the NIL football has evolved and what appears to be the most successful teams. I am seeing a progression towards small market colleges and large market colleges. The bigger populated schools are beginning to show their financial ability to raise money vs the mid and lower schools. A Texas, aTm, tOSU, Mich, PSU, as examples. The other is an Oregon which has Knight and greatly wants them to succeed in football. Then you have mid tier. Ala, Aub, Tenn, LSU, Miss, Miami, FSU as examples. The Smaller schools invest in basketball or baseball. Such as U Conn, Duke, Kansas, Ky and such. They can’t have enough alumni / fans to support the bigger sports. This appears to be the future and they will expand the playoffs to make the mid tier appear to have a chance. The money schools make from TV have nothing to do with building competative teams if the money is split equally and it goes back to how much more can they raise.
As a side note, I as a Tenn fan, am more than happy spending money to keep the baseball and basketball in the top 5-10 every year, and football has 7-9 wins each year. I know football is the supposed money maker but apparently the Kentuckys, Kansas’ U Conn etc are doing enough to have their teams competing for NCs each year.

Now my question. Why is it still important for a college football team to have 85 players. The NFL has about 43 or 45 on the active roster.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Short answer: NFL rosters are limited, in part, to limit how much money the owners have to commit each week to salary.

Also, if a NFL player goes out on IR, the team signs and new replacement player. College teams have to replace off the existing roster, so you need the larger number for depth throughout the season.

 

[OrangeBeachVol]

I don't think its mandatory to have 85 players, that's just the max allowed. Heupel started his 1st yr with 55 after the Pruitt house cleaning. But you make a point here, NIL may force teams to go to less players due the affordability. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[DaddyChad]

NFL can get by with only 53 on the roster. All those guys can play if called upon. You have more developmental positions in college; IE a lot of freshmen aren’t going to play right away. The stupid and immaturity factor is also a lot higher at that time. Also have to worry about the kids keeping academically qualified to play.

 

[The Original Fade]

And yet another negative of NIL revealed. Smaller rosters due to affordability meaning high schoolers get screwed again with fewer opportunities

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

"A question. Since before your sun burned hot in space, and before your race was born, I have awaited a question."

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Does Alabama have enough $$$ to pay off their first year coach. He has made the Sam mistakes we did last year by continuing to play Milroe. He has been a disaster this season. I realize his offense line is subpar for Alabama, but he should be a running back instead of a QB.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

After watching how the NIL football has evolved and what appears to be the most successful teams. I am seeing a progression towards small market colleges and large market colleges. The bigger populated schools are beginning to show their financial ability to raise money vs the mid and lower schools. A Texas, aTm, tOSU, Mich, PSU, as examples. The other is an Oregon which has Knight and greatly wants them to succeed in football. Then you have mid tier. Ala, Aub, Tenn, LSU, Miss, Miami, FSU as examples. The Smaller schools invest in basketball or baseball. Such as U Conn, Duke, Kansas, Ky and such. They can’t have enough alumni / fans to support the bigger sports. This appears to be the future and they will expand the playoffs to make the mid tier appear to have a chance. The money schools make from TV have nothing to do with building competative teams if the money is split equally and it goes back to how much more can they raise.
As a side note, I as a Tenn fan, am more than happy spending money to keep the baseball and basketball in the top 5-10 every year, and football has 7-9 wins each year. I know football is the supposed money maker but apparently the Kentuckys, Kansas’ U Conn etc are doing enough to have their teams competing for NCs each year.

Now my question. Why is it still important for a college football team to have 85 players. The NFL has about 43 or 45 on the active roster.

College rosters go to 105 for FB in July.
The SEC decided to limit it to 85 but no other league has done that, at least not yet.

 

[Batman1948]

After watching how the NIL football has evolved and what appears to be the most successful teams. I am seeing a progression towards small market colleges and large market colleges. The bigger populated schools are beginning to show their financial ability to raise money vs the mid and lower schools. A Texas, aTm, tOSU, Mich, PSU, as examples. The other is an Oregon which has Knight and greatly wants them to succeed in football. Then you have mid tier. Ala, Aub, Tenn, LSU, Miss, Miami, FSU as examples. The Smaller schools invest in basketball or baseball. Such as U Conn, Duke, Kansas, Ky and such. They can’t have enough alumni / fans to support the bigger sports. This appears to be the future and they will expand the playoffs to make the mid tier appear to have a chance. The money schools make from TV have nothing to do with building competative teams if the money is split equally and it goes back to how much more can they raise.
As a side note, I as a Tenn fan, am more than happy spending money to keep the baseball and basketball in the top 5-10 every year, and football has 7-9 wins each year. I know football is the supposed money maker but apparently the Kentuckys, Kansas’ U Conn etc are doing enough to have their teams competing for NCs each year.

Now my question. Why is it still important for a college football team to have 85 players. The NFL has about 43 or 45 on the active roster.

NFL rosters are set at 53 and they have a practice squad which is around 17.

 

[Volhoops]

Does Alabama have enough $$$ to pay off their first year coach. He has made the Sam mistakes we did last year by continuing to play Milroe. He has been a disaster this season. I realize his offense line is subpar for Alabama, but he should be a running back instead of a QB.

Even Bamers were asking why not start their freshman or whoever is next down there in the bowl game. Milroe responded with about three turnovers in the first quarter and a losing to Michigan. Lookout MIami here he comes.

 

[a vol n tears]

No comments on big market, mid market and small market thoughts? I thought there were few tidbits in there to debate.

 

[Raebo]

I recently read an article (ESPN) how G5 schools are struggling to maintain a football program due to funds drying up and their better players after a couple years leaving for power 4 schools and NIL deals. They are worried they won’t get a spot in the CFP in the future. I think it was Utah State that stopped providing free coffee to the coaching staff this year to save money.

 

[bigorangepoppa]

College rosters go to 105 for FB in July.
The SEC decided to limit it to 85 but no other league has done that, at least not yet.

So if other conferences up the roster to 105, and the SEC keeps the limit at 85, isn't that a big advantage to the 105 roster teams?

 

[VOLINVONORE]

So if other conferences up the roster to 105, and the SEC keeps the limit at 85, isn't that a big advantage to the 105 roster teams?

If they have enough money to buy 105 good players. If they don’t have the money, no advantage.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

If they have enough money to buy 105 good players. If they don’t have the money, no advantage.

If the B1G goes to 105, the SEC has to follow.

There may be a smattering of other programs outside of the "big 2" that can afford 105 consistently but very few.

 

[DazzleVol]

So if other conferences up the roster to 105, and the SEC keeps the limit at 85, isn't that a big advantage to the 105 roster teams?

Counterpoint .. a team isnt going to have playtime for that many players, all your doing is developing them for the player to portal out

 

[Volhoops]

Counterpoint .. a team isnt going to have playtime for that many players, all your doing is developing them for the player to portal out

Perfect point. Kids today want to get there time in quickly so they can go to the next level.