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1. The final touches are put on the OOC slate and Tennessee puts a bow on their best start to a season in over 100 years, off to a 13-0 start. Nobody is going to argue this was some crazy daunting schedule, but it also wasn’t just full of buy games either, no matter how you slice it going undefeated OOC is incredibly impressive, and for the most part they were wins in convincing fashion, average margin of victory was 23.8ppg, that’s pretty wild.

2. Player of the game for me was Chaz Lanier, which works out well because I wanted to highlight him anyways. Through their first 13 games Knecht put up 203 total points, Lanier put up 255 points, so 4ppg difference OOC. In Lofton’s record setting year of 3pt made shots in his first 13 games he made 40 3’s, Lanier has made 51 3’s. Obviously DK had a bonkers SEC run and I don’t see Lanier (or anyone) matching that, but the above highlights just how good he has been for us to start the year. If it wasn’t for Knecht last season Lanier would be getting a ton more publicity both locally and nationally it feels like, but in a way seems like what he’s doing is being a bit overlooked due to what Knecht did last year, not necessarily a bad thing though. Will be fun to continue to track, but what he’s doing has really been fun to watch and should really benefit Tennessee in the portal going forward.

3. I addressed it after the Indiana exhibition and then back tracked a bit after we started the year not shooting a ton of 3’s and dominating teams from 2, we have continued to shoot well from 2, but our 3pt numbers have struggled a bit of late, mainly Zeigler & Milicic. This team is going to have to shoot the ball well from 3, obviously Lanier is doing his part but those 2 guys will have to start to do their part or Lanier’s job is going to get even tougher as the focus only increases on him. Outside of Lanier & Gainey you’ve got 4 rotational guys shooting sub 32% (Mashack), 3 of them under 30% (Zeigler, Milicic & Dubar), that can’t continue.

4. The defense continues to once again be elite which as I’ve mentioned multiple times really is impressive given how many new pieces there are in the rotation, tons of credit to veteran players as well as the staff instilling that culture here and making it clear to new additions that you will play defense. 2nd in FG% defense, 2nd in points allowed, 1st in 3pt% defense all while being a good rebounding team is a great recipe to making sure you’re in most games and have a great chance.

5. So looking ahead the Vols finished 13-0 and have positioned themselves incredibly well heading into SEC play, which is a great thing because this is likely to be the best conference there’s ever been, and wins are going to come at a premium. Not playing a crazy tough OOC schedule was probably ideal this year because the SOS is going to work out just fine and get a gigantic boost from playing in the SEC, and come March there shouldn’t be any sort of issues with our overall SOS on our resume. I believe every game on our schedule will currently qualify as a Q1 or Q2 game, meaning we should be able to avoid tacking any bad losses on our resume which is an added benefit also.

6. So what would be a good expectation for SEC play? 12-6 or 13-5 seem to be the 2 most common numbers I’ve seen, given that Tennessee dodged a loss OOC I’ll go 12-6 and say a slip up or two is quite plausible with how well they showed up OOC, and even at 12-6 it should have you Top 4 in the league getting a double bye, should also have Tennessee firmly on the 2 seed line with a solid chance of a 1 obviously depending on what others do, it also makes my next step easier math lol. 18 game schedule, I’m gonna break it up into 3 game mini schedules, right now per barttorvik other than this first 3 game mini schedule we are favored by 6+ in 2/3 of the games in 5/6 of those mini 3 game schedules, so in theory this first 3 game schedule would be our toughest of the year. If we can go 2-1 every time out in these 3 game schedules we’d hit that 12-6 mark at seasons end and hit that mark, just an easy way to kind of track things over this gauntlet imo. If you go 1-2 or 0-3 obviously you’re behind the 8 ball, if you can go 3-0 in any of these that’s a major W, so on so forth, it all gets started tomorrow afternoon.




GBO!!!
 
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#2
18 game schedule, I’m gonna break it up into 3 game mini schedules, right now per barttorvik other than this first 3 game mini schedule we are favored by 6+ in 2/3 of the games in 5/6 of those mini 3 game schedules, so in theory this first 3 game schedule would be our toughest of the year.
Had to read this bit a couple times. It’s early 😅
 
#6
#6
1. The final touches are put on the OOC slate and Tennessee puts a bow on their best start to a season in over 100 years, off to a 13-0 start. Nobody is going to argue this was some crazy daunting schedule, but it also wasn’t just full of buy games either, no matter how you slice it going undefeated OOC is incredibly impressive, and for the most part they were wins in convincing fashion, average margin of victory was 23.8ppg, that’s pretty wild.

2. Player of the game for me was Chaz Lanier, which works out well because I wanted to highlight him anyways. Through their first 13 games Knecht put up 203 total points, Lanier put up 255 points, so 4ppg difference OOC. In Lofton’s record setting year of 3pt made shots in his first 13 games he made 40 3’s, Lanier has made 51 3’s. Obviously DK had a bonkers SEC run and I don’t see Lanier (or anyone) matching that, but the above highlights just how good he has been for us to start the year. If it wasn’t for Knecht last season Lanier would be getting a ton more publicity both locally and nationally it feels like, but in a way seems like what he’s doing is being a bit overlooked due to what Knecht did last year, not necessarily a bad thing though. Will be fun to continue to track, but what he’s doing has really been fun to watch and should really benefit Tennessee in the portal going forward.

3. I addressed it after the Indiana exhibition and then back tracked a bit after we started the year not shooting a ton of 3’s and dominating teams from 2, we have continued to shoot well from 2, but our 3pt numbers have struggled a bit of late, mainly Zeigler & Milicic. This team is going to have to shoot the ball well from 3, obviously Lanier is doing his part but those 2 guys will have to start to do their part or Lanier’s job is going to get even tougher as the focus only increases on him. Outside of Lanier & Gainey you’ve got 4 rotational guys shooting sub 32% (Mashack), 3 of them under 30% (Zeigler, Milicic & Dubar), that can’t continue.

4. The defense continues to once again be elite which as I’ve mentioned multiple times really is impressive given how many new pieces there are in the rotation, tons of credit to veteran players as well as the staff instilling that culture here and making it clear to new additions that you will play defense. 2nd in FG% defense, 2nd in points allowed, 1st in 3pt% defense all while being a good rebounding team is a great recipe to making sure you’re in most games and have a great chance.

5. So looking ahead the Vols finished 13-0 and have positioned themselves incredibly well heading into SEC play, which is a great thing because this is likely to be the best conference there’s ever been, and wins are going to come at a premium. Not playing a crazy tough OOC schedule was probably ideal this year because the SOS is going to work out just fine and get a gigantic boost from playing in the SEC, and come March there shouldn’t be any sort of issues with our overall SOS on our resume. I believe every game on our schedule will currently qualify as a Q1 or Q2 game, meaning we should be able to avoid tacking any bad losses on our resume which is an added benefit also.

6. So what would be a good expectation for SEC play? 12-6 or 13-5 seem to be the 2 most common numbers I’ve seen, given that Tennessee dodged a loss OOC I’ll go 12-6 and say a slip up or two is quite plausible with how well they showed up OOC, and even at 12-6 it should have you Top 4 in the league getting a double bye, should also have Tennessee firmly on the 2 seed line with a solid chance of a 1 obviously depending on what others do, it also makes my next step easier math lol. 18 game schedule, I’m gonna break it up into 3 game mini schedules, right now per barttorvik other than this first 3 game mini schedule we are favored by 6+ in 2/3 of the games in 5/6 of those mini 3 game schedules, so in theory this first 3 game schedule would be our toughest of the year. If we can go 2-1 every time out in these 3 game schedules we’d hit that 12-6 mark at seasons end and hit that mark, just an easy way to kind of track things over this gauntlet imo. If you go 1-2 or 0-3 obviously you’re behind the 8 ball, if you can go 3-0 in any of these that’s a major W, so on so forth, it all gets started tomorrow afternoon.




GBO!!!
In all honesty, if we lose 6 games in this league, are any of those really slip ups? There’s obviously going to be some teams that finish at the bottom of the league with records of 4-14, 5-13 but this year it doesn’t mean any of those teams are bad. Shoot those teams numbers-wise might be tourney worthy (doubt they make it in) but still. I just think teams are going to lose to anyone this season and I’m not sure that I would call it a slip up. It’s just a loss to a really good team in the best conference in the history of the sport.
 
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In all honesty, if we lose 6 games in this league, are any of those really slip ups? There’s obviously going to be some teams that finish at the bottom of the league with records of 4-14, 5-13 but this year it doesn’t mean any of those teams are bad. Shoot those teams numbers-wise might be tourney worthy (doubt they make it in) but still. I just think teams are going to lose to anyone this season and I’m not sure that I would call it a slip up. It’s just a loss to a really good team in the best conference in the history of the sport.
Very true…my thought it road wins are going to likely be few and far between, protect your home court as best you can for 9 games and try to steal a few on the road.
 
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#8
Good write up, the more I see Portal success specifically with new guys coming in and the defense not falling off a ton the more I realize that Barnes' development on that side of the ball is masterful. If he gets hard workers with any sort of drive to be better players they'll grow as players and the defense will be stout.

12-6 is where I'm at, anything more and I'd be happier than a pig in mud. Losing 1 or 2 more than that and I'd be a little disappointed, but overall with how the league is stacking up and how our depth looks it wouldn't shock me.

These are probably the toughest games ahead of us imo

at Florida
at Texas - they're unranked, but it's right after the road game with Florida and we always seem to have close games against Terry and this will be the first true road game against him
at Auburn
vs Kentucky
vs Florida
at Oklahoma
at Kentucky
vs Bama

But with how the conference is setup every game is going to be a challenging one.
 
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1. The final touches are put on the OOC slate and Tennessee puts a bow on their best start to a season in over 100 years, off to a 13-0 start. Nobody is going to argue this was some crazy daunting schedule, but it also wasn’t just full of buy games either, no matter how you slice it going undefeated OOC is incredibly impressive, and for the most part they were wins in convincing fashion, average margin of victory was 23.8ppg, that’s pretty wild.

2. Player of the game for me was Chaz Lanier, which works out well because I wanted to highlight him anyways. Through their first 13 games Knecht put up 203 total points, Lanier put up 255 points, so 4ppg difference OOC. In Lofton’s record setting year of 3pt made shots in his first 13 games he made 40 3’s, Lanier has made 51 3’s. Obviously DK had a bonkers SEC run and I don’t see Lanier (or anyone) matching that, but the above highlights just how good he has been for us to start the year. If it wasn’t for Knecht last season Lanier would be getting a ton more publicity both locally and nationally it feels like, but in a way seems like what he’s doing is being a bit overlooked due to what Knecht did last year, not necessarily a bad thing though. Will be fun to continue to track, but what he’s doing has really been fun to watch and should really benefit Tennessee in the portal going forward.

3. I addressed it after the Indiana exhibition and then back tracked a bit after we started the year not shooting a ton of 3’s and dominating teams from 2, we have continued to shoot well from 2, but our 3pt numbers have struggled a bit of late, mainly Zeigler & Milicic. This team is going to have to shoot the ball well from 3, obviously Lanier is doing his part but those 2 guys will have to start to do their part or Lanier’s job is going to get even tougher as the focus only increases on him. Outside of Lanier & Gainey you’ve got 4 rotational guys shooting sub 32% (Mashack), 3 of them under 30% (Zeigler, Milicic & Dubar), that can’t continue.

4. The defense continues to once again be elite which as I’ve mentioned multiple times really is impressive given how many new pieces there are in the rotation, tons of credit to veteran players as well as the staff instilling that culture here and making it clear to new additions that you will play defense. 2nd in FG% defense, 2nd in points allowed, 1st in 3pt% defense all while being a good rebounding team is a great recipe to making sure you’re in most games and have a great chance.

5. So looking ahead the Vols finished 13-0 and have positioned themselves incredibly well heading into SEC play, which is a great thing because this is likely to be the best conference there’s ever been, and wins are going to come at a premium. Not playing a crazy tough OOC schedule was probably ideal this year because the SOS is going to work out just fine and get a gigantic boost from playing in the SEC, and come March there shouldn’t be any sort of issues with our overall SOS on our resume. I believe every game on our schedule will currently qualify as a Q1 or Q2 game, meaning we should be able to avoid tacking any bad losses on our resume which is an added benefit also.

6. So what would be a good expectation for SEC play? 12-6 or 13-5 seem to be the 2 most common numbers I’ve seen, given that Tennessee dodged a loss OOC I’ll go 12-6 and say a slip up or two is quite plausible with how well they showed up OOC, and even at 12-6 it should have you Top 4 in the league getting a double bye, should also have Tennessee firmly on the 2 seed line with a solid chance of a 1 obviously depending on what others do, it also makes my next step easier math lol. 18 game schedule, I’m gonna break it up into 3 game mini schedules, right now per barttorvik other than this first 3 game mini schedule we are favored by 6+ in 2/3 of the games in 5/6 of those mini 3 game schedules, so in theory this first 3 game schedule would be our toughest of the year. If we can go 2-1 every time out in these 3 game schedules we’d hit that 12-6 mark at seasons end and hit that mark, just an easy way to kind of track things over this gauntlet imo. If you go 1-2 or 0-3 obviously you’re behind the 8 ball, if you can go 3-0 in any of these that’s a major W, so on so forth, it all gets started tomorrow afternoon.




GBO!!!

Aidoo playing at Arkansas will make tomorrow's game spicier.
 
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Very true…my thought it road wins are going to likely be few and far between, protect your home court as best you can for 9 games and try to steal a few on the road.
I agree with this. There’s 10 teams I think could legit win the conference. We all better buckle up and I pray that there aren’t meltdowns this season when we drop a few. Heck we could go 9-9 and be a 5 seed and as good a chance as anyone to win it all.
 
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Per my recent posts, #3 is my biggest concern (next would be depth for foul trouble and/or injuries) and both ZZ and Milicic are due statistically speaking...let's hope for some serious mean reversion over the SEC schedule.
Same here. The pick and pop with Igor is a huge part of making this offense the best it can be. At some point, is this slump the aberration for he and ZZ or were there hot starts the aberration. I’m hoping it’s the former. Or atleast somewhere in between. At some point, if it’s not already happening, teams will stop going out to defend Igor at the 3 point line which will clog up the works. Here’s to hoping he snaps out of it starting tomorrow. Same with ZZ. The ease at which he can penetrate into the teeth of the defense for those lobs and dump offs depends on his threat level to make 3s. At some point they will start to sag off him too. I have faith they will shoot it better, it just needs to happen very soon.
 
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Same here. The pick and pop with Igor is a huge part of making this offense the best it can be. At some point, is this slump the aberration for he and ZZ or were there hot starts the aberration. I’m hoping it’s the former. Or atleast somewhere in between. At some point, if it’s not already happening, teams will stop going out to defend Igor at the 3 point line which will clog up the works. Here’s to hoping he snaps out of it starting tomorrow. Same with ZZ. The ease at which he can penetrate into the teeth of the defense for those lobs and dump offs depends on his threat level to make 3s. At some point they will start to sag off him too. I have faith they will shoot it better, it just needs to happen very soon.
The lane tomorrow will be crowded, cal will sag and make someone besides Chaz or Gainey hit some shots. I hope we can stay in front of their guards and hope Aidoo is to psyched to be effective. If we win tomorrow, it will be because of our defense IMO and 38% shooting from 3 would be very helpful. Everyone is thinking the conference is stacked from top to bottom, we shall see. It may get quirky early and lose tomorrow and win Tuesday at Florida, so for the next 2 and half months the roller coaster ride begins. Lots of up and downs in store I believe. Just hope we can protect home court and beat Cal, as Barnes has had a lot of success in head to head meetings with him. Go Vols! Beat the Hogs! And I’m anxious to see how Florida does in Rupp in the morning. Odd 11 AM tip time.
 
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#14
I agree with this. There’s 10 teams I think could legit win the conference. We all better buckle up and I pray that there aren’t meltdowns this season when we drop a few. Heck we could go 9-9 and be a 5 seed and as good a chance as anyone to win it all.
Meltdowns? On a VolNation forum board? Surely you jest… 🤣🤣🤣🤙🏼🧡
 
#15
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6. So what would be a good expectation for SEC play? 12-6 or 13-5 seem to be the 2 most common numbers I’ve seen, given that Tennessee dodged a loss OOC I’ll go 12-6 and say a slip up or two is quite plausible with how well they showed up OOC, and even at 12-6 it should have you Top 4 in the league getting a double bye, should also have Tennessee firmly on the 2 seed line with a solid chance of a 1 obviously depending on what others do, it also makes my next step easier math lol. 18 game schedule, I’m gonna break it up into 3 game mini schedules, right now per barttorvik other than this first 3 game mini schedule we are favored by 6+ in 2/3 of the games in 5/6 of those mini 3 game schedules, so in theory this first 3 game schedule would be our toughest of the year. If we can go 2-1 every time out in these 3 game schedules we’d hit that 12-6 mark at seasons end and hit that mark, just an easy way to kind of track things over this gauntlet imo. If you go 1-2 or 0-3 obviously you’re behind the 8 ball, if you can go 3-0 in any of these that’s a major W, so on so forth, it all gets started tomorrow afternoon.
I really appreciate your thoughts in #6. It's not only a good breakdown of the schedule, it's good framing psychologically.

Hope requires courage. The greater the hope (or the thing hoped for) the more courage that's needed. In the heat of the moment, most of us bail out emotionally and relieve our stress by considering all to be lost.
 
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Same here. The pick and pop with Igor is a huge part of making this offense the best it can be. At some point, is this slump the aberration for he and ZZ or were there hot starts the aberration. I’m hoping it’s the former. Or atleast somewhere in between. At some point, if it’s not already happening, teams will stop going out to defend Igor at the 3 point line which will clog up the works. Here’s to hoping he snaps out of it starting tomorrow. Same with ZZ. The ease at which he can penetrate into the teeth of the defense for those lobs and dump offs depends on his threat level to make 3s. At some point they will start to sag off him too. I have faith they will shoot it better, it just needs to happen very soon.
Last year, ZZ shot 34% and Igor shot 37% so they both should shoot better going forward (esp Igor) but we will see.
 

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