12 team Playoff is the start

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I think it will be 12 teams again next year,but the seeding will be different. I think there will still be automatic bids,but instead of conference champs getting an automatic bid and a possible bye and top 4 seed,it will morph a 12 team with the eligible conference champs getting bid.. Those conference champs are in,but seeding is based on both polls.A computer model to be a 3rd unbiased party would help. Jmo
 
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I think eventually we get to 16 and the first 2 rounds are home games for the higher rated seed. I think Peach bowl tickets being $50 was an eye opener. Fans can only travel so much in one month.

I could see the 3rd and 4th highest rated conference champ getting a home game round one, so that would make them the 7th and 8th seed. This year would have looked like this.

1. Oregon vs 16. Clemson
2. Georgia vs 15. South Carolina
3. Texas vs 14. Ole Miss
4. Penn State vs 13. Miami
5. Notre Dame vs 12. Alabama
6. Ohio State vs 11. SMU
7. Boise State vs 10. Indiana
8. Arizona State vs 9. Tennessee
 
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I think eventually we get to 16 and the first 2 rounds are home games for the higher rated seed. I think Peach bowl tickets being $50 was an eye opener. Fans can only travel so much in one month.

I could see the 3rd and 4th highest rated conference champ getting a home game round one, so that would make them the 7th and 8th seed. This year would have looked like this.

1. Oregon vs 16. Clemson
2. Georgia vs 15. South Carolina
3. Texas vs 14. Ole Miss
4. Penn State vs 13. Miami
5. Notre Dame vs 12. Alabama
6. Ohio State vs 11. SMU
7. Boise State vs 10. Indiana
8. Arizona State vs 9. Tennessee
Home game tickets were insanely cheap for everyone but the Notre Dame Indiana game, which was an in-state matchup.
 
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I think it will be 12 teams again next year,but the seeding will be different. I think there will still be automatic bids,but instead of conference champs getting an automatic bid and a possible bye and top 4 seed,it will morph a 12 team with the eligible conference champs getting bid.. Those conference champs are in,but seeding is based on both polls.A computer model to be a 3rd unbiased party would help. Jmo
They are already in discussion to go to a 16 team playoff which would eliminate the byes and as long as they don't automatically allow conference champions to host a game, then everything will be much better.
 
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If they are going to eventually go to the NFL model in CFB, then I'd like to see them play these games on campus with the championship being a bowl game or neutral site.
I've said it before. In the next 5 or so years, based on when TV contracts expire, conferences will realign again and we will end up with 4 major conferences of 16 or 20 teams.

That sets up 4 divisions in each conference. Each division will have a winner based on record. Division winners play each other within a conference based on record...2 week playoff to decide conference champ. Then 2 week playoff for the conference champs to decide National champ.

You could mix in 4 minor conferences as well and have an 8 conference playoff for the Natty.

All the conference games would be higher seed hosted. Bowl sponsors will align with playoff games and can be more central to the teams if possible.
 
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I think eventually we get to 16 and the first 2 rounds are home games for the higher rated seed. I think Peach bowl tickets being $50 was an eye opener. Fans can only travel so much in one month.

I could see the 3rd and 4th highest rated conference champ getting a home game round one, so that would make them the 7th and 8th seed. This year would have looked like this.

1. Oregon vs 16. Clemson
2. Georgia vs 15. South Carolina
3. Texas vs 14. Ole Miss
4. Penn State vs 13. Miami
5. Notre Dame vs 12. Alabama
6. Ohio State vs 11. SMU
7. Boise State vs 10. Indiana
8. Arizona State vs 9. Tennessee
I think seeding should be ranked by strength of schedule. Some SEC and Big TEN teams may not like where they land, but it is the fairest way to go. I also think the SEC has to go to a t least a 9 game conference schedule, replacing one of the cup cake teams they now play. That improves strength of schedule and produces a better representation of a conference champion.
 
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I think seeding should be ranked by strength of schedule. Some SEC and Big TEN teams may not like where they land, but it is the fairest way to go. I also think the SEC has to go to a t least a 9 game conference schedule, replacing one of the cup cake teams they now play. That improves strength of schedule and produces a better representation of a conference champion.
I hate any reference to sos. Texas without the 2nd Georgia game, shows a 11th sos? How is that even close to accurate l.

Sos is unfortunately influenced by preseason rankings (hello FSU) which is never right.
 
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I think the opposite. There were 4 teams that just did not belong in those playoffs, including us. We do not need to be adding more teams.
I think the opposite. There were 4 teams that just did not belong in those playoffs, including us. We do not need to be adding more teams.
I am with you. It could be the bad seeding issue but this year was an example of more not being better.
 
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They need to adopt a computer based ranking system, similar to college basketball with NET. Then they could then use the quad system to evaluate the strength of wins and losses. To take it a step further, values could be assigned to each win or loss. For example, a Quad 1 home win could be worth 50 points, a neutral site win 75 points, and a road win 100 points. It’s not a perfect, but it would help lessen subjectivity in the rankings.
 
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Oh and get rid of the weekly rankings show. There’s no reason for rankings to be released on a weekly basis. Of course this will never happen because ESPN wants the viewers and the power brokers in the sport want to talk/controversy that comes with a weekly rankings release.
 
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I think the opposite. There were 4 teams that just did not belong in those playoffs, including us. We do not need to be adding more teams.
This is exactly. There aren’t 12 teams that can actually win it. I think 8 is a better number.
Hell, with just a four team model, many times there were a couple of teams that were non- competitive.
12 is too many, 16 is silly.
 
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I hate any reference to sos. Texas without the 2nd Georgia game, shows a 11th sos? How is that even close to accurate l.

Sos is unfortunately influenced by preseason rankings (hello FSU) which is never right.
By the end of the season, strength of schedule is much more accurate than an acting A D from any University charting a committee which is in charge of selecting and ranking the best 14 college football teams and determining their seeding in any playoff system. We already have two polls which rank the best teams in the Nation. While there is some biases in both polls, they are, historically , resulted in very similar results. Data are fed into computers and the results are, to me, the most accurate data we on which to select the participants and their seeding order. There were way too many”upset” in this year’s playoff for the outcomes to have been correctly seeded .
 
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I think seeding should be ranked by strength of schedule. Some SEC and Big TEN teams may not like where they land, but it is the fairest way to go. I also think the SEC has to go to a t least a 9 game conference schedule, replacing one of the cup cake teams they now play. That improves strength of schedule and produces a better representation of a conference champion.
Absolutely agree. I just think the 3rd and 4th conference champ hosting a game will be the bone they throw them to get it expanded. But you are right, SOS should mean more and the seeding should be 1st thru 16th best teams.
 
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Home game tickets were insanely cheap for everyone but the Notre Dame Indiana game, which was an in-state matchup.
Yeah, you're right. I knew OH St tickets were cheaper than we thought they'd be because that fanbase was ticked and Penn State tix were cheap because the opponent was SMU.

I THINK (could be wrong) in the 16 team model you get better traveling fanbases and ticket prices should reflect that most years. I also think the teams getting byes losing will expedite expanding to 16. We'll see.
 
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I think eventually we get to 16 and the first 2 rounds are home games for the higher rated seed. I think Peach bowl tickets being $50 was an eye opener. Fans can only travel so much in one month.

I could see the 3rd and 4th highest rated conference champ getting a home game round one, so that would make them the 7th and 8th seed. This year would have looked like this.

1. Oregon vs 16. Clemson
2. Georgia vs 15. South Carolina
3. Texas vs 14. Ole Miss
4. Penn State vs 13. Miami
5. Notre Dame vs 12. Alabama
6. Ohio State vs 11. SMU
7. Boise State vs 10. Indiana
8. Arizona State vs 9. Tennessee
16 is just dumb based upon this years playoffs. 12 looks like too many if you look at the first weekend of play. Not one competitive game the whole weekend. When you have a lower seeded team playing on the higher seeds home field there's just not much chance for an upset. Unless Michigan gets in and plays OSU in the shoe.
 
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16 is just dumb based upon this years playoffs. 12 looks like too many if you look at the first weekend of play. Not one competitive game the whole weekend. When you have a lower seeded team playing on the higher seeds home field there's just not much chance for an upset. Unless Michigan gets in and plays OSU in the shoe.
You are right but to quote Mr Krabs "Money!"
 
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Oh and get rid of the weekly rankings show. There’s no reason for rankings to be released on a weekly basis. Of course this will never happen because ESPN wants the viewers and the power brokers in the sport want to talk/controversy that comes with a weekly rankings release.

^^ THIS ^^
 
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I have a slightly different take than some of you. I don't think there should be any home games at all. All of the games should be a neutral sites. It is just too big of an advantage to the home team.
 
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Yeah, you're right. I knew OH St tickets were cheaper than we thought they'd be because that fanbase was ticked and Penn State tix were cheap because the opponent was SMU.

I THINK (could be wrong) in the 16 team model you get better traveling fanbases and ticket prices should reflect that most years. I also think the teams getting byes losing will expedite expanding to 16. We'll see.
Secondary market tickets were cheap. TN-OSU was a sellout. The CFP got their money
 
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I think eventually we get to 16 and the first 2 rounds are home games for the higher rated seed. I think Peach bowl tickets being $50 was an eye opener. Fans can only travel so much in one month.

I could see the 3rd and 4th highest rated conference champ getting a home game round one, so that would make them the 7th and 8th seed. This year would have looked like this.

1. Oregon vs 16. Clemson
2. Georgia vs 15. South Carolina
3. Texas vs 14. Ole Miss
4. Penn State vs 13. Miami
5. Notre Dame vs 12. Alabama
6. Ohio State vs 11. SMU
7. Boise State vs 10. Indiana
8. Arizona State vs 9. Tennessee
Wasn’t UT ranked 7th in both polls and 6th in the AFCA?
 

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