Power conferences take over sight of athletes compensation

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Yeah, trying to implement a salary cap at this point is pretty much impossible

Sure you can do it from the university funds, but how about collectives and even more out there is external sponsors.

I can see the lawsuit now if the local cookie company wants to sponsor player X and this new entity says no.
 
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Public contracts would be a step in the right direction where the language is readable by anyone and start going after organizations offering NIL linked to school selection. Businesses hate legal issues.

Frankly I wonder how these lawsuits have merit considering these “kids” knowingly entered agreements to play for an NCAA institution while knowing the rules they had against earnings while a part of their member institution’s teams. If you don’t like it, go play in another league.
 
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They are trying to be an NCAA Part Deux. They may agree To a salary cap….but they will not be able to regulate NIL money.
 
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This sounds fairly sensible, really. Athletic departments already publish their financials, so there’s a pretty clear picture of what kind of pot there exists to get paid out of. There’s a hard limit before a team is running its program into the ground, and there are plenty of examples out there of leagues with financial fair play/profit and sustainability rules.

And there’s Title IX, too. The Lady Vols win over UConn had better viewership than games like the NHL’s Blackhawks-Panthers game this week. There’s a solid case to be made that revenue distribution that passes legal muster doesn’t just mean football and men’s hoops. And there’s not really much of an option to not offer other programs to balance out those 105-scholarship football rosters, even if they operate at a loss.

It’s a great era to be a lawyer. 🤦‍♂️
 
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stolitonic said:
Yeah, trying to implement a salary cap at this point is pretty much impossible

Sure you can do it from the university funds, but how about collectives and even more out there is external sponsors.

I can see the lawsuit now if the local cookie company wants to sponsor player X and this new entity says no.
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The article says that “Deals affiliated with a booster, booster group or any entity deemed to be associated with the school are the only ones subject to the clearinghouse’s more rigorous fair market value standard.” So Deloitte has a limited scope that shouldn’t touch private agreements. I do wonder if athletes lose a little leverage there (but won’t). If you’re making X to represent the school you play for, it kind of weakens your case for why you should make 10X to do a 30 second spot for some local shop. So that’s exactly what’ll happen and how the big teams will get people paid-paid.
 
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Just make them all employees and create a website for athlete’s NIL deals. They will have to submit a legal form of their NIL deals and whatever requirements are part of that deal they will have to submit proof they participated in those requirements by submitting photo/video or additional documentation to show they actually fulfilled the deal’s requirements. It protects the athlete and the person/organization funding their NIL. There is no way they will ever be able to limit an athlete’s earning power off the court/field. Professional athletes are allowed to make limitless money in endorsements so college players will be treated the same.
 
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VolPack22 said:
Just make them all employees and create a website for athlete’s NIL deals. They will have to submit a legal form of their NIL deals and whatever requirements are part of that deal they will have to submit proof they participated in those requirements by submitting photo/video or additional documentation to show they actually fulfilled the deal’s requirements. It protects the athlete and the person/organization funding their NIL. There is no way they will ever be able to limit an athlete’s earning power off the court/field. Professional athletes are allowed to make limitless money in endorsements so college players will be treated the same.
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If they are made employees then Title IX kicks in and womens programs get equal money to the mens programs.
 
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jackaro said:
If they are made employees then Title IX kicks in and womens programs get equal money to the mens programs.
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I could go for a women's FB team. Okay at home when the men are on the road or have a bye. Sankey, are you listening?
 
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jackaro said:
If they are made employees then Title IX kicks in and womens programs get equal money to the mens programs.
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That’s not how it’s going to work. Does every employee at your company make the same same salary? Does every employee at UTK make the same salary? No, they don’t.
 
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VolPack22 said:
That’s not how it’s going to work. Does every employee at your company make the same same salary? Does every employee at UTK make the same salary? No, they don’t.
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www.si.com

New Title IX Guidance Reshapes NIL Payments in College Athletics

The U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights (OCR) has issued new guidance that will dramatically alter how colleges distribute revenue-sharing pa
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“When a school provides athletic financial assistance in forms other than scholarships or grants, including compensation for the use of a student-athlete’s NIL, such assistance also must be made proportionately available to male and female athletes,” the memo states.
 
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jackaro said:
www.si.com

New Title IX Guidance Reshapes NIL Payments in College Athletics

The U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights (OCR) has issued new guidance that will dramatically alter how colleges distribute revenue-sharing pa
www.si.com www.si.com


“When a school provides athletic financial assistance in forms other than scholarships or grants, including compensation for the use of a student-athlete’s NIL, such assistance also must be made proportionately available to male and female athletes,” the memo states.
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This isn’t NIL, it’s revenue sharing.
 
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VolPack22 said:
This isn’t NIL, it’s revenue sharing.
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'When a school provides athletic financial assistance in forms other than scholarships or grants, including compensation for the use of a student-athlete’s NIL, such assistance also must be made proportionately available to male and female athletes,” the memo states.'

Not just NIL, it is financial assistence other than scholarships and grants. It includes NIL but is more than that.
 
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jackaro said:
'When a school provides athletic financial assistance in forms other than scholarships or grants, including compensation for the use of a student-athlete’s NIL, such assistance also must be made proportionately available to male and female athletes,” the memo states.'

Not just NIL, it is financial assistence other than scholarships and grants. It includes NIL but is more than that.
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I’m telling you right now that a starting QB is not going to get paid the same as a rower. That’s just not going to fly. You know it, I know it, and whoever put that out there knows it. I don’t care what that says. Rules and laws change all the time. Hell, we can actually have real females playing women’s sports again. Who would have ever thunk it?
 
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VolPack22 said:
I’m telling you right now that a starting QB is not going to get paid the same as a rower. That’s just not going to fly. You know it, I know it, and whoever put that out there knows it. I don’t care what that says. Rules and laws change all the time. Hell, we can actually have real females playing women’s sports again. Who would have ever thunk it?
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I am not sure if you are just too stubborn to admit you are wrong or didn't bother to read what is in the memo but I am done arguing with you. Welcome to my ignore list.
 
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jackaro said:
I am not sure if you are just too stubborn to admit you are wrong or didn't bother to read what is in the memo but I am done arguing with you. Welcome to my ignore list.
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You are too stubborn to see how this is actually going to work. Ignore all you want. All I’m telling you is these football players aren’t down to get peanuts whenever they deserve the majority.
 
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jackaro said:
“When a school provides athletic financial assistance in forms other than scholarships or grants, including compensation for the use of a student-athlete’s NIL, such assistance also must be made proportionately available to male and female athletes,” the memo states.
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Hmm....so if a headhunter spends $2 mailing out my resume, he or she must also spend $2 mailing out a female's resume. But if Uncle Moneybags offers me $1M and the headhunter didn't have to do anything, it's all good?
 
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woodpusher said:
Hmm....so if a headhunter spends $2 mailing out my resume, he or she must also spend $2 mailing out a female's resume. But if Uncle Moneybags offers me $1M and the headhunter didn't have to do anything, it's all good?
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Title IX only applies to educational institutions that get federal funds.
 
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jackaro said:
Title IX only applies to educational institutions that get federal funds.
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Basically all of them do get federal funds.

VA funding for former military service students.

Research grants.

Pell Grants and other federal scholarship grants.

Discretionary and Construction grants for renovation of old or damaged college buildings or construction of new ones.

Etc. Tithe IX is going to be part of this, no matter what.
 
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