Changing of the guard; coaches.

[LVfanLasVegas]

If you've been around long enough (like myself) you've been fortunate to see some amazing coaches come through women's basketball. Of course, THE Pat Summit, Geno, Mulky, Tara, just to name a few with no slight intended to the many greats in and out of the game.

However my question is which coaches you think are going to be that next wave of 'greats' that we'll look upon as game changers, legendary?

Of course Dawn is already there, Ivey has hit the ground running at ND, hopefully Kim C is heading there, what others? Kara L is doing well at Duke, Lindy Larocque is building a good mid-major here at UNLV (she'll be poached soon).

Thoughts? Please and thank you. Go Lady Vols!

 

[chuckiepoo]

I’ll throw one out there. Molly Miller. Currently at GCU.

 

[Special Ed]

Kim Caldwell is clearly going to be considered one of the all-time greats before her career as a coach is over.
I can't think of a better example of the Pat Summitt paradigm in today's women's basketball landscape.
I can't stand Mulkookey of Staley. I'll be glad when both of them have been sent out to pasture. Geno as well.

 

[bigorangepoppa]

Kim Caldwell is clearly going to be considered one of the all-time greats before her career as a coach is over.
I can't think of a better example of the Pat Summitt paradigm in today's women's basketball landscape.
I can't stand Mulkookey of Staley. I'll be glad when both of them have been sent out to pasture. Geno as well.

I watched the replay of U Conn at South Carolina, and absolutely loved the expression on Staley's face. The Lady Vols beat U Conn at the Summitt, and South Carolina got destroyed on their home floor. I think KC is gonna be at the top of the heap within a couple of years.

 

[Volfan2012]

Chelsea Lyles is probably going to get a big time job soon as her team dominates the ASUN conference. There are some SEC schools that might be interested in her at seasons end.

 

[1reVOLver]

However my question is which coaches you think are going to be that next wave of 'greats' that we'll look upon as game changers, legendary?

I can't stand Mulkookey of Staley. I'll be glad when both of them have been sent out to pasture. Geno as well.

The second quote (1) ignores the stated purpose of the thread, and (2) ignores the obvious skills of the three national championship winners.

Banghart at UNC had a spectacular record at Princeton. She is a strong recruiter. The jury is out regarding her coaching ability at a major program. From my perspective she is in the B+/A-
range at present. Time will tell if she can develop into an A or A+ coach.

 

[b_gann]

If you've been around long enough (like myself) you've been fortunate to see some amazing coaches come through women's basketball. Of course, THE Pat Summit, Geno, Mulky, Tara, just to name a few with no slight intended to the many greats in and out of the game.

However my question is which coaches you think are going to be that next wave of 'greats' that we'll look upon as game changers, legendary?

Of course Dawn is already there, Ivey has hit the ground running at ND, hopefully Kim C is heading there, what others? Kara L is doing well at Duke, Lindy Larocque is building a good mid-major here at UNLV (she'll be poached soon).

Thoughts? Please and thank you. Go Lady Vols!

Some are obvious and known, but others are doing great things at lower levels.

Aaron Roussell - Richmond
Lindsay Gottlieb - USC
Molly Miller - Grand Canyon
Jennie Baranczyk - Oklahoma
Jacie Hoyt - Ok St
Robyn Fralick - Michigan St
Kara Lawson - Duke
Kayla Karius - Green Bay

 

[Clad in Big Orange]

I’ll throw one out there. Molly Miller. Currently at GCU.
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My choice before I knew of KC! But I'm glad we have Kim!

 

[VolunteerCeltic]

I’ll throw one out there. Molly Miller. Currently at GCU.
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Coach Miller's is one of the best up and comers, her defenses are aggressive and shut people down

 

[Orange007]

no one can predict the future, but i'll tell you one thing, CKC has already changed the narrative for the LVs. it has been years since we have had so many people on tv gushing about tn's PLAY on the COURT. there were a lot of questions about her style of play in the SEC. those doubts are gone and they were alleviated with her first team. just wait until we have a full squad of players meant for the system AND upperclassman who have already played in it for a season. i am not one of those people who pump sunshine just for the sake of it, but i firmly believe the LVs are headed toward another title in the near future.

 

[IndianaVol]

I'll throw another name out there that is going to be great when the dust settles - Terri Moren at IU
This year is kind of a rebuild for them, but the last two years she had her teams out performing for sure.

 

[EcRoberts]

I think that carly thibault-dudonis at fairfield is a hell of a coach (mike thibault's daughter) 57-20 since 2022. That's a hell of a record to take a program that's never been anything before. Her, Kim, and Michaela Mabrey (notre dame assistant) were my two choices when the hiring process was going on.

 

[maple]

Let me preface this by saying I kind of ended up rambling so I apologize if I went sort of off topic.

If CKC continues to build on this season she will for sure eventually be the next gen of greats. I questioned her hiring initially but having seen how this program is night and day compared to last season, I’m fine with admitting I was likely way off base with that assessment.

Ivey at ND has made them respectable again after McGraw’s last pathetic season. She has a lot of potential. I’m out on Kara at Duke right now. I’m not very impressed. And last year I thought Coach Jack could make Syracuse a decent team again but year has been a bust, so …

Excuse my UConn homerism for a moment but I do think Shea Ralph could eventually enter that realm too. Vandy is a steep hill to climb, but then again, … maybe. I won’t hold my breath though.

That’s just who I can think of off the top of my head. I had a mind to include Vic Shafer but I feel like he’s more of the older gen than next gen. Gottlieb was middling at Cal and now she’s middling at USC. Cori Close isn’t even in my consideration even if UCLA wins a title.

For me, there are the GOATs and then there are the great coaches. The GOATs are the coaches who had decades of the highest success and countless accolades. Specifically in the modern era of basketball, Pat and Geno. They stand apart. For now.

Mulkey, Dawn, and now retired McGraw and Tara are all great coaches. I don’t personally like or respect all of them (and yes, I hate the LVs but Pat was a coach you could absolutely hate as competition but fully respect as a person and ambassador for the sport), but they have won multiple titles and kept their programs relevant over the years. I think Dawn could become one of the GOATs with a few more titles — for me she’s not quite there yet. But if anyone is in the next gen of GOATs, she’s absolutely the front runner.

No one, for me, is going to start seriously entering the running for “great coach” until they win at least a couple of titles. CKC, Ivey, etc., they all have a chance to get there. But you gotta win a title first … and then sustain it from there.

It’s still a young new era. The old guard is still being phased out. Lot of things can change from here and now. Hard to say exactly who will succeed and by how much.

 

[maple]

I think that carly thibault-dudonis at fairfield is a hell of a coach (mike thibault's daughter) 57-20 since 2022. That's a hell of a record to take a program that's never been anything before.

Can’t believe I forgot about her, when Fairfield is practically in my (old) backyard! She’s done an incredibly impressive job.

 

[1reVOLver]

This is a bit off the beaten track. If, and it is a big if, Flanery would leave Creighton and go to a P4 program, he could merit attention.

 

[lvocd]

Yes, I agree Shea Ralph is a good coach. And if she makes the ultimate sacrifice and sends Blakes to Storrs after this season to give her mentor Geno the player he needs to help replace Bueckers/Fudd, she'll definitely be rewarded for that and will be a shoo-in to be the next Husky coach.

You heard it here first!

 

[Remy]

Some are obvious and known, but others are doing great things at lower levels.

Aaron Roussell - Richmond
Lindsay Gottlieb - USC
Molly Miller - Grand Canyon
Jennie Baranczyk - Oklahoma
Jacie Hoyt - Ok St
Robyn Fralick - Michigan St
Kara Lawson - Duke
Kayla Karius - Green Bay

Gottlieb is special at SC. I am well pleased so far with what we have in KC. I thought recruiting would be a weakness but so far, no way. Kara Lawson the jury is out for now but she could be a big time coach. She knows what it takes.

 

[StorrsCentral]

Yes, I agree Shea Ralph is a good coach. And if she makes the ultimate sacrifice and sends Blakes to Storrs after this season to give her mentor Geno the player he needs to help replace Bueckers/Fudd, she'll definitely be rewarded for that and will be a shoo-in to be the next Husky coach.

You heard it here first!

LOL, don't think that will happen, but if it did, I would approve. Way back when I mentioned Thibault-Dudonis as a coach for Tennessee, but I can't complain about CKC.

 

[lvocd]

LOL, don't think that will happen, but if it did, I would approve. Way back when I mentioned Thibault-Dudonis as a coach for Tennessee, but I can't complain about CKC.

Come on now. You laughed, but it doesn't REALLY sound outrageous to you, does it? Say Geno doesn't have space for a really promising player one year. I can see him and Shea having a secret "farm team"-type of arrangement if the right player comes along. We'll find out for sure, 'cause Blakes is certainly the kind of player he needs.

Gonna be interesting to see what happens.

 

[stllvf]

lets look at the less obvious choices of head coaches: start with ole miss, a underfunded, not priorized program which several decades earlier was a top ten. and they hired Yolett McPhee-McCuin, and her first year they were not much better than North Carolina - Central. Not a highly desired position, she came cheap because the program was very underfunded (seems like football had the revenue)

and a highly desired position (or was it) the LVs got little interest from several big name coaches and decided on a coach no either expert or vol board member would have ever considered. (nor until she was contacted and interviewed did she).

Iowa and Stanford chose to replace the retiring legacy coach with the head assistant, seems like the LVs did that also.

If I were hiring a coach who got the best out of her less than power conference players, how does that translate into her ability to recruit top players seeking NIL funds.

to ask a coming example: Arkansas. they bought a KY coach and he bought a full team from the portal and they ain't liven up to potential. Who will they recruit for their next women's coach?

Texas A&M ?

 

[Ladyvols4ever!]

lets look at the less obvious choices of head coaches: start with ole miss, a underfunded, not priorized program which several decades earlier was a top ten. and they hired Yolett McPhee-McCuin, and her first year they were not much better than North Carolina - Central. Not a highly desired position, she came cheap because the program was very underfunded (seems like football had the revenue)

and a highly desired position (or was it) the LVs got little interest from several big name coaches and decided on a coach no either expert or vol board member would have ever considered. (nor until she was contacted and interviewed did she).

Iowa and Stanford chose to replace the retiring legacy coach with the head assistant, seems like the LVs did that also.

If I were hiring a coach who got the best out of her less than power conference players, how does that translate into her ability to recruit top players seeking NIL funds.

to ask a coming example: Arkansas. they bought a KY coach and he bought a full team from the portal and they ain't liven up to potential. Who will they recruit for their next women's coach?

Texas A&M ?

This is Joni's 3rd year. I think she gets at least a couple more unless she chooses to leave.

 

[Mafiaboss]

Banghart doesn’t even make the list. Gottlieb is good and Kara is good, but not great. I think Miller has potential to be great. Kim Caldwell is nothing short of remarkable. I knew it the minute they hired her. She has the most potential at this point to be great.

 

[lvocd]

Kim Caldwell is definitely a star already, even if this year's team doesn't get past the first round of the NCAA, simply because she already has Tennessee back in the national conversation -- for good reasons.