Thoughts on a potentially new offense?

[VawlIn]

According to reports out of practice today the offense worked out of mostly condensed pistol sets. Oklahomas offense this past year used a variety of different formations and motions and the offense Landry Jones ran under Heupel at Oklahoma was vastly different than what we run now and was almost like a blueprint for a lot of the offenses we’re seeing in the NFL. I think this will allow us to plug and play a lot of new comers a lot easier as well as develop players better for the NFL which will improve recruiting. I also think not relying so much on space and pace to move the ball will allow Nico to slow down pre snap and make the correct reads. I’m excited to see what the offense looks like in the spring game

 

[Voltopia]

According to reports out of practice today the offense worked out of mostly condensed pistol sets. Oklahomas offense this past year used a variety of different formations and motions and the offense Landry Jones ran under Heupel at Oklahoma was vastly different than what we run now and was almost like a blueprint for a lot of the offenses we’re seeing in the NFL. I think this will allow us to plug and play a lot of new comers a lot easier as well as develop players better for the NFL which will improve recruiting. I also think not relying so much on space and pace to move the ball will allow Nico to slow down pre snap and make the correct reads. I’m excited to see what the offense looks like in the spring game

I'm fine with Tennessee doing whatever, but the 2021 and 2022 offenses (ranked #7 and #1, respectively) were beautiful and impossible not to love. Wide splits, presnap motion, create mismatches, read the defense, and if he's even I'm leavin'. And a whole lot of running in between. I get that some people think it's been solved, but that didn't make it any less beautiful to watch and cheer for. Watching those offenses was like being able to breathe after a decade of allergies. Every breath tasted sweet.

So. We'll see. If they become less explosive I can't say that I'd be thrilled. But we'll see.

 

[WillisWG]

jUsT win

 

[sjt18]

You should always evolve. I hope Heupel keeps tempo control. I like the pressure that puts on Ds. Outside of that... just want it to work.

 

[Gladiator1]

Single wing or bust.

 

[superdave1984]

Whatever gets us scoring points. Lots of points.

 

[Adam2014]

Where are these reports? I read all of the spring practice notes and there is zero mention of the pistol formation.

 

[Clad in Big Orange]

Some change and variation would be good imo.

 

[VawlIn]

Where are these reports? I read all of the spring practice notes and there is zero mention of the pistol formation.

Article from Rocky Top insider on today’s practice

“Let’s go ahead and get to the good stuff. Here’s what Tennessee’s first team offensive line looked like when they took the field for 11v11 work. DeSean Bishop flanked Nico Iamaleava as the running back. Mike Matthews and Chris Brazzell were the outside receivers while Braylon Staley worked in the slot. Miles Kitselman was the first team tight end.
Working left to right, Tennessee’s first team offensive line was Lance Heard, Jesse Perry, William Satterwhite, Andrej Karic, Larry Johnson III.

Working left to right, Tennessee’s second team offensive line was Bennett Warren, Wendell Moe, Max Anderson, Sam Pendleton, Brian Grant. Then the third team offensive lineman, working left to right was Trevor Duncan, Gage Ginther, Gus Hill, Ayden Bussell, David Sanders.
The first team offensive line had none of Tennessee’s projected newcomer starters. Sam Pendleton and Wendell Moe were both with the second team while five-star freshman David Sanders worked with the third team. I don’t read too much into that but it is worth noting.
Now another piece of personnel news that is worth noting. Boo Carter worked as the second team slot receiver and got offensive reps during one-on-one and 11v11.

One final offensive note before getting to competition results, Tennessee ran a decent bit of pistol formation and had less reps with wide splits compared to its normal offense. I don’t know how much to make of it but it was worth noting.”

 

[farmdogvol]

Article from Rocky Top insider on today’s practice

“Let’s go ahead and get to the good stuff. Here’s what Tennessee’s first team offensive line looked like when they took the field for 11v11 work. DeSean Bishop flanked Nico Iamaleava as the running back. Mike Matthews and Chris Brazzell were the outside receivers while Braylon Staley worked in the slot. Miles Kitselman was the first team tight end.
Working left to right, Tennessee’s first team offensive line was Lance Heard, Jesse Perry, William Satterwhite, Andrej Karic, Larry Johnson III.

Working left to right, Tennessee’s second team offensive line was Bennett Warren, Wendell Moe, Max Anderson, Sam Pendleton, Brian Grant. Then the third team offensive lineman, working left to right was Trevor Duncan, Gage Ginther, Gus Hill, Ayden Bussell, David Sanders.
The first team offensive line had none of Tennessee’s projected newcomer starters. Sam Pendleton and Wendell Moe were both with the second team while five-star freshman David Sanders worked with the third team. I don’t read too much into that but it is worth noting.
Now another piece of personnel news that is worth noting. Boo Carter worked as the second team slot receiver and got offensive reps during one-on-one and 11v11.

One final offensive note before getting to competition results, Tennessee ran a decent bit of pistol formation and had less reps with wide splits compared to its normal offense. I don’t know how much to make of it but it was worth noting.”

Karic must be working for free since he doesn't have any eligibility left. Pretty sure writer means Perry at right guard.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

The way way way way way too early take is Syracuse ran quite a bit of pistol and several others use it. Maybe it's so the D Coordinator can get a feel for who "gets it" and let the D see different sets.

It might not be about the offense at all.

 

[sonofUT62]

The way way way way way too early take is Syracuse ran quite a bit of pistol and several others use it. Maybe it's so the D Coordinator can get a feel for who "gets it" and let the D see different sets.

It might not be about the offense at all.

Who has their first team offense use valuable practice time on someone else’s offense?? With a QB that needs the reps with new wide receivers?? That’s what scout teams are for.

 

[VawlIn]

The way way way way way too early take is Syracuse ran quite a bit of pistol and several others use it. Maybe it's so the D Coordinator can get a feel for who "gets it" and let the D see different sets.

It might not be about the offense at all.

I don’t see that being the case since we saw it against Vandy. Could be wrong, but Heupel ran a lot of pistol with Landry Jones and while Oklahoma’s offense was worse than ours this year I liked their playcalling against us. Their OL just couldn’t hold up and the QBs were bad

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Who has their first team offense use valuable practice time on someone else’s offense?? With a QB that needs the reps with new wide receivers?? That’s what scout teams are for.

Hardly a scout team plan on Day 2, I'd bet.

A better bet is they're throwing a lot of formations at everyone and getting a feel for who "gets it" and shows a football IQ worth noting.

 

[Volanta]

Article from Rocky Top insider on today’s practice

“Let’s go ahead and get to the good stuff. Here’s what Tennessee’s first team offensive line looked like when they took the field for 11v11 work. DeSean Bishop flanked Nico Iamaleava as the running back. Mike Matthews and Chris Brazzell were the outside receivers while Braylon Staley worked in the slot. Miles Kitselman was the first team tight end.
Working left to right, Tennessee’s first team offensive line was Lance Heard, Jesse Perry, William Satterwhite, Andrej Karic, Larry Johnson III.

Working left to right, Tennessee’s second team offensive line was Bennett Warren, Wendell Moe, Max Anderson, Sam Pendleton, Brian Grant. Then the third team offensive lineman, working left to right was Trevor Duncan, Gage Ginther, Gus Hill, Ayden Bussell, David Sanders.
The first team offensive line had none of Tennessee’s projected newcomer starters. Sam Pendleton and Wendell Moe were both with the second team while five-star freshman David Sanders worked with the third team. I don’t read too much into that but it is worth noting.
Now another piece of personnel news that is worth noting. Boo Carter worked as the second team slot receiver and got offensive reps during one-on-one and 11v11.

One final offensive note before getting to competition results, Tennessee ran a decent bit of pistol formation and had less reps with wide splits compared to its normal offense. I don’t know how much to make of it but it was worth noting.”

Interesting

 

[sonofUT62]

Hardly a scout team plan on Day 2, I'd bet.

A better bet is they're throwing a lot of formations at everyone and getting a feel for who "gets it" and shows a football IQ worth noting.

Well I would agree that’s certainly a more plausible explanation than it having anything to do with Syracuses offense. I would again state that these practices are a finite commodity and I highly doubt we’re using them to run something that isn’t going to be used later. I would also point to the comments made by one of the podcasters this week about Littrell being brought in to add new elements to the route tree. If this is true then I would guess that Heupel either thinks the league has caught up or the O has gone stale. But I don’t have any proof or personal knowledge of this.

 

[Volanta]

I was impressed with Nico in year 1---Im very intrigued to see how he conceptulizes the offense in Year 2. He made great plays but had some first time full on starter errors too. Im curious if they let him run more.

 

[sami]

I would love to see some wrinkles put into the offense. I'm not going to say that the league has "caught up" with our scheme, as nothing is completely new any more except for maybe the speed we ran it with in 2022, and it's still mostly about execution. But I buy into the idea that Josh might be looking for ways to change up what we've been doing, and making the offense easier to plug and play talent to prepare them for the next level, which will only help recruiting.

 

[VAVol85]

Karic must be working for free since he doesn't have any eligibility left. Pretty sure writer means Perry at right guard.

Thanks…I was scratching my head on that one.

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

Karic had a big day!

 

[Vol8188]

According to reports out of practice today the offense worked out of mostly condensed pistol sets. Oklahomas offense this past year used a variety of different formations and motions and the offense Landry Jones ran under Heupel at Oklahoma was vastly different than what we run now and was almost like a blueprint for a lot of the offenses we’re seeing in the NFL. I think this will allow us to plug and play a lot of new comers a lot easier as well as develop players better for the NFL which will improve recruiting. I also think not relying so much on space and pace to move the ball will allow Nico to slow down pre snap and make the correct reads. I’m excited to see what the offense looks like in the spring game

You’re basing all this on a “new” formation? Seems like you’re over reading things.

 

[Zues1]

Going to be an " interesting" year for Hype.

 

[VawlIn]

You’re basing all this on a “new” formation? Seems like you’re over reading things.

Not really, when a large portion of your offense is ran out of a set that is entirely different from what you’ve been running the last 4 years an you bring in 2 different offensive analysts it’s a sign that things are starting to change. Which is what we need. The offense has become stagnant and predictable. Going tighter gives us an entirely different set of passing concepts that we’re unable to run with the sets we’ve typically ran under Heupel

 

[Vol8188]

Not really, when a large portion of your offense is ran out of a set that is entirely different from what you’ve been running the last 4 years an you bring in 2 different offensive analysts it’s a sign that things are starting to change. Which is what we need. The offense has become stagnant and predictable. Going tighter gives us an entirely different set of passing concepts that we’re unable to run with the sets we’ve typically ran under Heupel

Analysis come and go. We frequently run condensed sets in short yardages sets.

More likely than the idea that we are about to see a dramatic shift is that we were just going over short yardage scenarios

Where was the report you read? I didn’t noticed that from Fingers (I may have overlooked it)

 

[LWSVOL]

Article from Rocky Top insider on today’s practice

“Let’s go ahead and get to the good stuff. Here’s what Tennessee’s first team offensive line looked like when they took the field for 11v11 work. DeSean Bishop flanked Nico Iamaleava as the running back. Mike Matthews and Chris Brazzell were the outside receivers while Braylon Staley worked in the slot. Miles Kitselman was the first team tight end.
Working left to right, Tennessee’s first team offensive line was Lance Heard, Jesse Perry, William Satterwhite, Andrej Karic, Larry Johnson III.

Working left to right, Tennessee’s second team offensive line was Bennett Warren, Wendell Moe, Max Anderson, Sam Pendleton, Brian Grant. Then the third team offensive lineman, working left to right was Trevor Duncan, Gage Ginther, Gus Hill, Ayden Bussell, David Sanders.
The first team offensive line had none of Tennessee’s projected newcomer starters. Sam Pendleton and Wendell Moe were both with the second team while five-star freshman David Sanders worked with the third team. I don’t read too much into that but it is worth noting.
Now another piece of personnel news that is worth noting. Boo Carter worked as the second team slot receiver and got offensive reps during one-on-one and 11v11.

One final offensive note before getting to competition results, Tennessee ran a decent bit of pistol formation and had less reps with wide splits compared to its normal offense. I don’t know how much to make of it but it was worth noting.”

Karic is no longer in Knoxville. He is chasing an NFL career.

Question the RTI report if they got that wrong...