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The Nico experiment is over but he will forever the poster child for major NCAA/NIL changes. Again it was his $2 million payment as a high school senior that created a giant lawsuit that eventually the university of Tennessee won. Fast-forward 2 1/2 years later, and this stand by Josh Heupel in the Tennessee administration is putting the brakes and a major spotlight on the issue.

Nick Saban has already come out and praised Josh Heupel for what he’s done in the stand that he made. As I scroll through multiple other schools message boards, there is a ton of respect for Josh Heupel in the Tennessee program for doing what they did. I think that even the fans are tired of the NIL era. With such a nationwide and front page spotlight on this Nico situation, and with high profile people like Nick Saban their statements, I believe we will see action very soon. That will curb the constant NIL negotiations. It’s Nico was as good as he thought he was, there would be teams lined up to sign him, and yet he overplayed his hand in one of the most impressive failures in the modern football era.

I hope we see real change coming soon.
 
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First, we really have no idea if Nico did or didn't overplay his hand. We won't know until he gets whatever deal he gets next. If he were to go to North Carolina for 3-4 million then he'd have the money he wanted, so. That one remains to be seen.

Second, there won't be any action soon. The only action that can prevent this sort of situation will take an act of Congress.

Third, while I agree that many fans are tired of the tire fire that is major college athletics, the reality is that the people who adore this "at any cost" mercenary free-for-all have the backing of the courts. Until Congress acts, those people will continue to get their way. The entire system will continue to be held captive until the schools are afforded the ability to set controls.
 
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OP, the courts have made it pretty clear that any type of collective action will be struck down because of the antitrust laws.

I honestly don’t know how this gets fixed unless the schools unilaterally start being more judicious with their money…and more schools start taking a stand like we just did.
 
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First, we really have no idea if Nico did or didn't overplay his hand. We won't know until he gets whatever deal he gets next. If he were to go to North Carolina for 3-4 million then he'd have the money he wanted, so. That one remains to be seen.

Second, there won't be any action soon. The only action that can prevent this sort of situation will take an act of Congress.

Third, while I agree that many fans are tired of the tire fire that is major college athletics, the reality is that the people who adore this "at any cost" mercenary free-for-all have the backing of the courts. Until Congress acts, those people will continue to get their way. The entire system will continue to be held captive until the schools are afforded the ability to set controls.
UNC is out. Heck, schools are choosing the south Alabama quarterback over Nico (when NIL is involved). Schools, coaches, and admins are just not interested in dealing with this behavior. It’s evident by the list of schools that are even interested in talking with Nico’s camp. I feel like this is almost a collective stand.
 
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Congress will end up involved eventually and we’ll have collective bargaining and a players association.

At that point we probably end up an official two tier system. Not sure how it’ll look but it’ll be noticeable in competition and earning potential.
 
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Here is the problem with rules… they can be broken. If we go to a model where you can pay players a set amount of money, the under the table stuff will be back and harder to catch because the players will have legitimate money they can spend. Actual NIL deals from companies wanting the players to represent their brand will exist, but just as many fake nil deals will be signed.

There is no way we get professional sports like even playing fields in college athletics where the players get to choose which school to attend. The only way to make it even would be to have a draft. That can’t happen.

We as a program will just have to be very diligent in who we recruit. The problem here is not the system, it is the evil sob that would choose slightly more money over team. As Kirby said, recruiting kids that money is a thing, not the only thing.
 
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Let's allow the portal to open before we claim he overplayed his hand. Probable, but lets keep the toothpaste in the tube another day or two. I'm still waiting on the NCAA to fix officiating... at this point my hope is for the NCAA to be replace with something that has teeth.
 
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First, we really have no idea if Nico did or didn't overplay his hand. We won't know until he gets whatever deal he gets next. If he were to go to North Carolina for 3-4 million then he'd have the money he wanted, so. That one remains to be seen.

Second, there won't be any action soon. The only action that can prevent this sort of situation will take an act of Congress.

Third, while I agree that many fans are tired of the tire fire that is major college athletics, the reality is that the people who adore this "at any cost" mercenary free-for-all have the backing of the courts. Until Congress acts, those people will continue to get their way. The entire system will continue to be held captive until the schools are afforded the ability to set controls.
God help the sport if congress gets involved. If it could get any worse, they can/will make happen!
 
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Let's allow the portal to open before we claim he overplayed his hand. Probable, but lets keep the toothpaste in the tube another day or two. I'm still waiting on the NCAA to fix officiating... at this point my hope is for the NCAA to be replace with something that has teeth.
If the NCAA was proactive about anything at all, college football wouldn't be in the mess it is currently in.
 
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One of the big arguments for the transfer portal was that coaches could leave and go to another team whenever they wanted. I believe in the day and age of NIL and the way the transfer portal is right now. Is that if you want to transfer out no matter the reason, there should be a buyout clause for the player.

For example, if a player wants a large NIL contract then they have to buy out that contract before transferring to another school. I haven’t completely thought this all the way through, but it seems like if it works for coaches then it could work for players.
 
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If the NCAA was proactive about anything at all, college football wouldn't be in the mess it is currently in.
This NIL chaos had to occur for all to see and understand guard rails need to be in place.
Which governing body is actually going to institute and police parameters remains to be seen.
There is currently momentum to implement changes to the existing structure sooner rather than later.
Stay tuned.
 
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Here is the problem with rules… they can be broken. If we go to a model where you can pay players a set amount of money, the under the table stuff will be back and harder to catch because the players will have legitimate money they can spend. Actual NIL deals from companies wanting the players to represent their brand will exist, but just as many fake nil deals will be signed.

There is no way we get professional sports like even playing fields in college athletics where the players get to choose which school to attend. The only way to make it even would be to have a draft. That can’t happen.

We as a program will just have to be very diligent in who we recruit. The problem here is not the system, it is the evil sob that would choose slightly more money over team. As Kirby said, recruiting kids that money is a thing, not the only thing.
One lesson every college team needs to learn from this is not only do you have to recruit the player, but you will also have to seriously vet the family as well.
 
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In the image of Colin Kaepernick, he is being Blackballed. For his actions as directed by his father and agent.
Teams don't want drama and don't want to pay for it. Team leaders don't do this kind of stuff. He earned a decent paycheck with talent but lost it with his actions.
Prima Donna Syndrome by Dad, Agent and his execution of their plan.
Did not work. Was not going to work with 3 coaches directing him. (CJH, Nic & Agent)
We paid him a ton of money, promoted him like a king, set a clear path for him to succeed and he failed.
$$$$ is the root of all evil, no. The love of it is.
He couldn't even make visits and autograph signings.
Nico is really the first player I have seen that felt like it was his team not the University of Tennessee's team.

"The Chickens have come home to roost."
Blackballed appears in the making.

Can't wait to see which team signs him and pays him the $$$$$ he demands. Put that team on the desperate list.
 
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I sincerely believe that the timeline for NCAA action backed by the conferences, has been moved up significantly.
Back to the under the table $$$$. NCAA cannot monitor this situation. A Cap has been mentioned but money will flow under the table. Back to the old days. Cap was mentioned at 22.5 mil for all teams.
 
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UNC is out. Heck, schools are choosing the south Alabama quarterback over Nico (when NIL is involved). Schools, coaches, and admins are just not interested in dealing with this behavior. It’s evident by the list of schools that are even interested in talking with Nico’s camp. I feel like this is almost a collective stand.

Yep..........Tulane just said no thanks too. Apparently dad is still pushing the $4 mil ticket. I have a feeling Nico is about to be severely messed over (at least for this year).
 

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