Texas to spend $35-40m on 2025 roster

[Gandalf]

Report: Texas football spending unprecedented money on 2025 roster

Vol faithful, if this is not complete BS, how are we going to compete in this new era? We know OSU spent some $25m+ on their nat champ winning roster and now we see this. Then I see people talking about us spending somewhere between $10-12m this year.

I get discount shopping but seriously, how do we compete if this kind of money is being thrown around?

Yes, money alone does not a great program or record make BUT lets be honest, if the top 5 programs are all spending above $20m a year and most are in our own league, how can we recruit without making the economics of going to a game completely out of reach (or is it already?).

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Report: Texas football spending unprecedented money on 2025 roster

Vol faithful, if this is not complete BS, how are we going to compete in this new era? We know OSU spent some $25m+ on their nat champ winning roster and now we see this. Then I see people talking about us spending somewhere between $10-12m this year.

I get discount shopping but seriously, how do we compete if this kind of money is being thrown around?

Dont underestimate the ability of fake UT to F up.....

 

[Gandalf]

Dont underestimate the ability of fake UT to F up.....

Well that is true.

btw- it is UTex, never UT, even when acknowledging its fakeness. Like never calling it orange, though it looks like they took our beloved Pantone 151C and mixed in dog feces and tried to pass it off as their own, (but I digress lol)

 

[utvolpj]

We're trying to compete with much bigger schools that have a bigger fan/alumni base and more wealthy alumni. We did a great job getting out in front initially but we just don't have the dollars to fund it like the top schools

 

[Rememberthelate90s]

I'd rather have an occasional good team than nico again. Eff those guys. Braves win on a budget. So can we.

 

[csheaton]

There will be caps soon, hopefully.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

Report: Texas football spending unprecedented money on 2025 roster

Vol faithful, if this is not complete BS, how are we going to compete in this new era? We know OSU spent some $25m+ on their nat champ winning roster and now we see this. Then I see people talking about us spending somewhere between $10-12m this year.

I get discount shopping but seriously, how do we compete if this kind of money is being thrown around?

Yes, money alone does not a great program or record make BUT lets be honest, if the top 5 programs are all spending above $20m a year and most are in our own league, how can we recruit without making the economics of going to a game completely out of reach (or is it already?).

It's not B.S. it's just business for what their alumni and fans are willing to pony up.

Spending a lot of money is no guarantee of success. Ask TAMU and Jimbo Fisher.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

There will be caps soon, hopefully.

Not without an antitrust exe Orion, and even then it's unlikely that private NIL can be called without the athletes getting employee status. The NCAA is fighting that tooth and nail. See the NLRB ruling about the Dartmouth basketball players as an example.

 

[BruiserVol]

I posted about it when Texas joined the SEC. If anyone thought Bama or UGA were bad, bend over. Texas has some of, if not the best high school football facilities and teams in the US. They have an abundance of money. And now they have the last piece in a conference to brag about. I hope I’m wrong, but they are going to be more than a thorn in the side for the foreseeable future.

 

[csheaton]

Not without an antitrust exe Orion, and even then it's unlikely that private NIL can be called without the athletes getting employee status. The NCAA is fighting that tooth and nail. See the NLRB ruling about the Dartmouth basketball players as an example.

Do you think it’s possible the athletes do get employee status eventually?

 

[LouderVol]

I'd rather have an occasional good team than nico again. Eff those guys. Braves win on a budget. So can we.

Braves have the 8th largest budget. and spend more than 2x the bottom 7 teams. I don't think they are the example you want to use.

 

[cherokeeeVOL]

From the article it sounds like that's a pretty big assumption based on a bill that may or may not pass if I understood it correctly? Otherwise it seems like it's around 20 million for their NIL, which is around what was reported for Ohio State this past year. That's still MUCH higher than ours unfortunately. They also just landed the top class in the country. Crazy to think that before Sark got there they were about as bad as us pre-Heupel. What did they do I wonder? . At least with Ohio State, Georgia, and Bama there's the decent excuse that they've had sustained success for a long, long time, but with Texas they were pretty bad before Sark got there. The previous coach Herman, I think it was, was not as bad as Strong but they were still a 3-4 loss team in their best season under him.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

Do you think it’s possible the athletes do get employee status eventually?

Possibly. I think it depends on lots of factors.

The biggie is a Congressional antitrust exemption. If the NCAA gets one, then I don't see how they don't get the rest of what comes with it.

That includes either employee or contractor status.

The next most important thing is the legal challenges to the proposed House case settlement. Specifically the "legitimate NIL" and Clearinghouse clauses.

Those have at least 14 challenges and that's what has delayed the ruling. If the NCAA loses that they have the choice of either settling without being able to interfere with private NIL, or to go back to litigation. If they go back to trial and lose, they're going to be on the hook for far more than the 2 point something billion they're discussing now.

That could significantly delay revenue sharing. That will hurt lesser funded schools, and schools like Clemson and Stanford that take almost no transfers.

Losing at litigation would likely bankrupt the NCAA and put a huge hurt on the institutions.
That would see pretty much every college and university leaving the NCAA and mooting every proposed settlement clause.

 

[Flogballs]

Braves have the 8th largest budget. and spend more than 2x the bottom 7 teams. I don't think they are the example you want to use.

Using MLB as the example, what team would you compare the Vols to?

 

[lawgator1]

Adios and faretheewell, college football.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

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Adios and faretheewell, college football.

I've been hearing that crap for years. Yet CFB is better than ever, by every objective measure. The sky is not falling, Chicken Little.

 

[Doberman]

I've been hearing that crap for years. Yet CFB is better than ever, by every objective measure. The sky is not falling, Chicken Little.

Better than ever is quite subjective. For everyone except for the fans maybe, but I think the overwhelming majority of fans would strongly disagree that today is better.

 

[HeuperDrive]

I've been hearing that crap for years. Yet CFB is better than ever, by every objective measure. The sky is not falling, Chicken Little.

Better than ever? Absolutely not lol. You’re lying to yourself if you think this sport is more fun than it was in 2007

 

[lawgator1]

I've been hearing that crap for years. Yet CFB is better than ever, by every objective measure. The sky is not falling, Chicken Little.

Yes. Yes, it is.

You are not acknowledging the escalation of NIL deals and what it means for teams now on the bottom financially. And soon, for teams like UT, more in the middle financially. I think you are not being realistic if you don't see the pattern here.

Teams at the top financially, like Texas, will spend the money, and win, and have more fan support and make more money.

Teams in the middle, like UT, can't keep up. And so will not be able to compete over the long haul, causing fan interest to dwindle. And therefore the $ to decrease.

It won't happen in two years. But unless something is done to get a handle on this, and quickly, it absolutely will happen.

 

[LouderVol]

Using MLB as the example, what team would you compare the Vols to?

I am the wrong person to ask that. being down here, I know they aren't as cheap as their fan base wants to make them out as being.

 

[LouderVol]

Yes. Yes, it is.

You are not acknowledging the escalation of NIL deals and what it means for teams now on the bottom financially. And soon, for teams like UT, more in the middle financially. I think you are not being realistic if you don't see the pattern here.

Teams at the top financially, like Texas, will spend the money, and win, and have more fan support and make more money.

Teams in the middle, like UT, can't keep up. And so will not be able to compete over the long haul, causing fan interest to dwindle. And therefore the $ to decrease.

It won't happen in two years. But unless something is done to get a handle on this, and quickly, it absolutely will happen.

If you are sticking to the current Div 1 P4 schools, there aren't a lot in that Texas tax bracket to suck the air completely out of the system.

USC, and Notre Dame, would maybe be up there. TAMU will be close just out of spite. Stanford COULD do it, if they got serious about sports. some of the other brainy schools could too, but you are talking about a major emphasis change from those institutions.

The Georgia's, Bamas, OSU, Oregon are a tier below those top schools. and by that point you are getting into a gradient from them down into the mid tier where UT is.

the thing that would worry me is foreign money, Saudi, getting involved. that I think would ruin things.

 

[xpsyclonex2002]

oil money. It goes a long way. Schools have relied on history and reputation to recruit in the past. Now it's strictly about the money. 10 years ago, a kid could walk on at Alabama and know that he would likely get a ring just for being there. He would have that for the rest of his life. I have a 2nd cousin that did just that. Now kids would walk away from any program for more money, even if they never see the playoffs. You just have to be a stand out player.....forget the rest of the team.

This is the biggest concern for the NIL era. Some schools/states have more money than others. Teams are going to buy championships. Take states like California, Texas, and Florida. They are states full of money. The number of college football teams is with legit programs is about 3-5 per state. That much money spread across those schools mean that most of them should do well in recruiting/retention. Now take Alabama, Tennessee, the Carolinas, etc. We all have modest money. Nothing spectacular. Spread that around 2-3 teams within that state. Now each team is working with much less than the rich states. Even with grossly unequal splits in the teams from the same area (UT and vandy), it's still not enough. Take Alabama with a less biased split (Alabama and Auburn). They are going to wither into nothing. They will be Kansas in 20 years. Ohio is a moderately wealthy state due to teh manufacturing base. OHST has no in state competition.

 

[lawgator1]

If you are sticking to the current Div 1 P4 schools, there aren't a lot in that Texas tax bracket to suck the air completely out of the system.

USC, and Notre Dame, would maybe be up there. TAMU will be close just out of spite. Stanford COULD do it, if they got serious about sports. some of the other brainy schools could too, but you are talking about a major emphasis change from those institutions.

The Georgia's, Bamas, OSU, Oregon are a tier below those top schools. and by that point you are getting into a gradient from them down into the mid tier where UT is.

the thing that would worry me is foreign money, Saudi, getting involved. that I think would ruin things.

As good a point as any. Saudi money can drive NIL deals just as much as can money from Pilot gas stations.

Imagine a LIV tour for college football....

 

[Voltopia]

Report: Texas football spending unprecedented money on 2025 roster

Vol faithful, if this is not complete BS, how are we going to compete in this new era? We know OSU spent some $25m+ on their nat champ winning roster and now we see this. Then I see people talking about us spending somewhere between $10-12m this year.

I get discount shopping but seriously, how do we compete if this kind of money is being thrown around?

Yes, money alone does not a great program or record make BUT lets be honest, if the top 5 programs are all spending above $20m a year and most are in our own league, how can we recruit without making the economics of going to a game completely out of reach (or is it already?).

I think all the people who clamored to have pay-for-play and to make college football solely oriented on money and profit ought to pony up the cash.

They wanted this world. They fought for it. And they got it. Now they can pay for it.

There was no world - NONE - where schools could compete with the really big heavyweights on money. The sad part is, the SEC had college football by the throat, but they've let these other schools buy their way back to the final table. Tradition doesn't matter, fans don't matter, community doesn't matter, school quality doesn't matter, conferences mostly no longer matter -- only money. Solely money. That's what some wanted. And here it is.

Never going to outspend the largest alumni networks with the most cash. Texas and its geological wealth, Michigan and Ohio State with their alumni numbers, Oregon with Nike ... just ... I don't know what people expected. Except maybe they thought every fan of every SEC school would be comfortable tithing 10% a year to stay in the fight. Who knows.

 

[birdie74]

Report: Texas football spending unprecedented money on 2025 roster

Vol faithful, if this is not complete BS, how are we going to compete in this new era? We know OSU spent some $25m+ on their nat champ winning roster and now we see this. Then I see people talking about us spending somewhere between $10-12m this year.

I get discount shopping but seriously, how do we compete if this kind of money is being thrown around?

Yes, money alone does not a great program or record make BUT lets be honest, if the top 5 programs are all spending above $20m a year and most are in our own league, how can we recruit without making the economics of going to a game completely out of reach (or is it already?).

Forever ruined…