247 All Time Tennessee Recruiting Player Rankings

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Of course, they have Bryce Brown as #1 and Eric Berry as #2 and, I think, Nico at #4 all time so far.


We have had numerous busts with a few deserving their all-time ranking positions in recruiting. Also, some turned out well.

However, how have we recruited so many such as Todd Cox and Cody Douglas that I just don’t remember.

This list only goes back to 2000 but, were most just busts or fid we actually have difficulty developing players?
 
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The Original Fade said:
Once you understand that recruiting services are businesses, everything else makes sense.
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Yep, so many of these services parrot other services (lazy just in it for $$$) and do not do their homework. Meaning if the one or two services that every other service just and auto attaches a star number to a player name per that service. That's when you get bust everybody says how could so many ppl had been wrong. Its really just a couple ppl wrong and the copycats.
 
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KTrain said:
Yep, so many of these services parrot other services (lazy just in it for $$$) and do not do their homework. Meaning if the one or two services that every other service just and auto attaches a star number to a player name per that service. That's when you get bust everybody says how could so many ppl had been wrong. Its really just a couple ppl wrong and the copycats.
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What about the coaches who took the player? They are wrong too.

Simple fact is, the best teams always seem to have the best recruiting classes. Teams that look for diamonds in the rough for half their roster don’t typically do quite as well. Recruiting services don’t seem to be wrong any more often than the coaches are.
 
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#1fulmerite said:
Of course, they have Bryce Brown as #1 and Eric Berry as #2 and, I think, Nico at #4 all time so far.


We have had numerous busts with a few deserving their all-time ranking positions in recruiting. Also, some turned out well.

However, how have we recruited so many such as Todd Cox and Cody Douglas that I just don’t remember.

This list only goes back to 2000 but, were most just busts or fid we actually have difficulty developing players?
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I remember the good ol days of refreshing your browser to see who committed at the last minute and who went elsewhere. My favorite drama recruit who did absolutely nothing at UT has to be Brandon Jefferies. The most infamous ones from back in the day have to be Kenny Phillips and Michael Goggans
 
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KTrain said:
Yep, so many of these services parrot other services (lazy just in it for $$$) and do not do their homework. Meaning if the one or two services that every other service just and auto attaches a star number to a player name per that service. That's when you get bust everybody says how could so many ppl had been wrong. Its really just a couple ppl wrong and the copycats.
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I went down the list and looked at the offers on the right and, clicked on those who had several; especially those who I could not recall. Many of those were complete busts.
 
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Pains me to say, but looking at that list from the early 2000s and seeing the higher amount of "busts" it's easy to tell the game was slipping away from Fulmer at that point.
I don't know the reason behind every guy that didn't pan out, but I bet a lot were lack of development.
 
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Of course we always want to believe the hype on the recruiting rankings but we’ve seen too many overrated kids and plenty of underrated ones as well. Maybe it can be better with some standard metrics and more exposure for all but much of the recruiting hype for individual players is generated from promotional efforts from the player’s family and local community.

My favorite bust was OJ Owens. That kid was an excellent athlete and an absolute beast in high school football but he never panned out at UT. I believe he was the one who gained fame because he literally knocked a kid out during game because he was such a hard hitter. He had good size and speed and great instincts - a sure fire, can’t miss prospect. Except he couldn’t grasp zone coverage at all…and that’s a pretty fundamental flaw for a safety. Y’all correct me if I’m wrong but that’s how I remember that kid.
 
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That 2001 class was just stacked at RB! I remember watching clean up time against Syracuse and thinking we have the Cobb/Webb back or Little Man and Hayden back in the back field coming up. Add in Riggs the next year and we should have been RB U!

None of them really were any good. I know we had a 2K season with Riggs and Houston but they both ran to get tackled and, add in that walk on Yancey kid was even better.

Were they true busts or was that lack of development?
 
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#1fulmerite said:
That 2001 class was just stacked at RB! I remember watching clean up time against Syracuse and thinking we have the Cobb/Webb back or Little Man and Hayden back in the back field coming up. Add in Riggs the next year and we should have been RB U!

None of them really were any good. I know we had a 2K season with Riggs and Houston but they both ran to get tackled and, add in that walk on Yancey kid was even better.

Were they true busts or was that lack of development?
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Hard to say without inside knowledge what was the player being a bust and not grasping the college game or if it was a bust due to lack of coaching / development.

Seeing this list, I want to see another list...who are the all time lowest ranked recruits in UT history that became absolutely great players. I'm sure there's a walk on or two in there and some 1 and 2 star guys.
 
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Sarms58 said:
Of course we always want to believe the hype on the recruiting rankings but we’ve seen too many overrated kids and plenty of underrated ones as well. Maybe it can be better with some standard metrics and more exposure for all but much of the recruiting hype for individual players is generated from promotional efforts from the player’s family and local community.

My favorite bust was OJ Owens. That kid was an excellent athlete and an absolute beast in high school football but he never panned out at UT. I believe he was the one who gained fame because he literally knocked a kid out during game because he was such a hard hitter. He had good size and speed and great instincts - a sure fire, can’t miss prospect. Except he couldn’t grasp zone coverage at all…and that’s a pretty fundamental flaw for a safety. Y’all correct me if I’m wrong but that’s how I remember that kid.
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I remember being excited that he signed. Sports South (I believe at the time) had a signing day show and showed clips of the recruits and his highlight film was awesome. He wore a neck roll as a safety. I don't remember him seeing the field except maybe on special teams.
 
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#35 Daniel Brooks.

I didn't know him until much later in his life (I was a Drill Sergeant in his company during Basic), but from what I saw, he was a great kid (not a "kid" and only a year or 2 younger than me but I think y'all get the point). We spoke a couple of times after he graduated Basic Training.

I remember finding out about his passing. Gone too early.

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Daniel Brooks Passes Away - University of Tennessee Athletics

Sept. 15, 2015 KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- The story of Daniel Brooks was one of the best redemption stories in the history of Tennessee football and the men that
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When is the last time we had top players we signed drop out of school or suspended due to grades? I remember years ago we would all worry due final exams of players being suspended or ineligible due to grades. I haven't heard of this in last 20 years I don't think. Makes you wonder
 
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JJ Peterson and Drew Richmond.
Richmond couldn't stay in his stance. he had a mean streak, but only after the whistle.
Peterson was out of shape and slow to learn. I have even wondered if there was some truth that Rush Propst hired a semi-pro ringer to play and presented this kid to recruiters and college coaches.

Not the biggest busts, but very recent.
 
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VolsCigarMan said:
When is the last time we had top players we signed drop out of school or suspended due to grades? I remember years ago we would all worry due final exams of players being suspended or ineligible due to grades. I haven't heard of this in last 20 years I don't think. Makes you wonder
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The last one I remember (would have been) Cordelle Patterson but it didn’t matter anyway because we didn’t make it to a bowl game that year.

I don’t know if you remember but in the old days, when they would show headshots of the players on TV, they would also show their majors. Back then, most would have Urban Studies majors. Now, most athletes or at least football players major in General Studies. It’s difficult to flunk out now unless you just stop attending class all together like Cordelle did.
 
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YankeeVol said:
#35 Daniel Brooks.

I didn't know him until much later in his life (I was a Drill Sergeant in his company during Basic), but from what I saw, he was a great kid (not a "kid" and only a year or 2 younger than me but I think y'all get the point). We spoke a couple of times after he graduated Basic Training.

I remember finding out about his passing. Gone too early.

utsports.com

Daniel Brooks Passes Away - University of Tennessee Athletics

Sept. 15, 2015 KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- The story of Daniel Brooks was one of the best redemption stories in the history of Tennessee football and the men that
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Terrific story! I remember Daniel but was unaware of his "story" after dismissal from the team. I still remember the names of my Ft. Jackson drill sergeants: SSG Land & SFC Ace. Y'all make impressions on young men. :cool:
 
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feathersax said:
Terrific story! I remember Daniel but was unaware of his "story" after dismissal from the team. I still remember the names of my Ft. Jackson drill sergeants: SSG Land & SFC Ace. Y'all make impressions on young men. :cool:
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It’s been 23 years since I went to basic and I still remember mine. Don’t think I’ll ever forget lol
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
What about the coaches who took the player? They are wrong too.

Simple fact is, the best teams always seem to have the best recruiting classes. Teams that look for diamonds in the rough for half their roster don’t typically do quite as well. Recruiting services don’t seem to be wrong any more often than the coaches are.
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Of course they have similar results, the "recruiting services" are cheating of the coaches' test. I don't think you understand how this works. The recruiting ranking is based on who is recruiting a player. So the recruiting services are just picking the same players as the coaches. These "services" are not out scouting players or watching film. If a player is recruited by top schools he's a four star, if he is recruited by all the top teams he's a 5 star. Purely a marketing and media construct and useless as teats on a boar hog. Forget the stars, cut out the middleman and just look at who is recruiting a player.
 
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