New bill would standardize NIL - thoughts?

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Only way this works is if the NCAA becomes a true enforcement body rather than a governing body.
You need a "Police" force to make sure schools are following the rules / laws.

Where the NCAA went wrong is they wanted to do both dictate and enforce.
It doesn't work because you can dictate law faster than you can enforce and schools just go around the rules.
 
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Still going to give advantage to whatever entity that is paying the most. I guess that comes down to the school and the conferences. That being said, this statement caught my eye, "The bill would codify the right for student athletes to get paid for the use of their name, image and likeness (NIL), while mandating that colleges and universities also provide them with "comprehensive" academic, career counseling, and medical support, according to text obtained by Fox News Digital."

So, schools are going to allocate even more attention and resources to these coddled individuals who are paid and given a free academic ride? The way I see it is this:

If you want an education and get paid by a school unlike the typical athletes, you should have to either pay for your education or qualify for an academic scholarship just like every other student. However, I also believe that sports are their own discipline and take great dedication in order to succeed at. So, why force athletes to get both and pay them to do so? This soaks up a lot of resources by providing free education to many individuals who might not otherwise choose to focus on--along-side their athletic journey. Some of these young men and women are more athletically gifted than intellectually gifted.

Such a change might present the student-athlete with more opportunity to focus on what their natural talents are and give them a better shot to pursue a career in those sports--even if not in one of the major American professional leagues. Meanwhile, schools would no longer be handing out free academic rides to young men and women already being paid while other students have to pay--again unless one or the other qualifies for an academic scholarship.

While some athletes might be gifted enough to qualify for academic scholarships or opt out of pursuing academics altogether, some student athletes will choose to pay for an education in the event their athletic career doesn't work out. This actually creates revenue for the schools that might not otherwise exist under the new model. This gives schools additional revenue. Revenue that the schools could potentially use to fund other sports, for example. Which is another problem that is presented in this video.

On the latter note, so much for being an everything school. I submitted a note last year to Danny about collaborating with the school's media department, local businesses, etc. to help build markets for non-revenue generating sports in an effort to at least help them generate revenue to be self-sustaining. If the new legislation does indeed have the stated impact on non-revenue generating sports, these sports will have needed something like this yesterday.

I really wish there was a 24-hour tv station and online publication geared towards airing all Tennessee sports material that donated a portion of its revenue to these non-revenue generating sports. It would give the communications/advertising departments a lot of real world experience (keeping the costs low). It could be an entire production from media coverage, production, design, advertising, etc. and real-world brands could advertise on the commercials, team jerseys, digital assets, radio, television ads, etc. and realize a return. The students working for this operation could interview professionals from major sports publications to add meat and credibility to their material while gaining real-world experience. This would also be free advertising for the major sports publications.

The list goes on. I love our major college sports, but I'm not liking the monster they are becoming. There are ways to make it all happen.
 
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Given that the NCAA will allow colleges to pay athletes directly beginning this year, I'm definitely confused as to how or why NIL will continue to exist. I mean I thought it was basically created to circumvent the old system... right?

But wait... there's more.

Check out this nugget in the House bill:

The bill also expressly prohibits student athletes from being considered employees of a college over their sporting participation.

So... some of the powers that be want to avoid NFL Jr. status. But is this fair? How do we "level the playing field" between colleges without an NFL-like system in place. DO WE WANT TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD? Hmmm... Where do Danny White and Sankey stand on this?
 
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Still going to give advantage to whatever entity that is paying the most. I guess that comes down to the school and the conferences. That being said, this statement caught my eye, "The bill would codify the right for student athletes to get paid for the use of their name, image and likeness (NIL), while mandating that colleges and universities also provide them with "comprehensive" academic, career counseling, and medical support, according to text obtained by Fox News Digital."

So, schools are going to allocate even more attention and resources to these coddled individuals who are paid and given a free academic ride? The way I see it is this:

If you want an education and get paid by a school unlike the typical athletes, you should have to either pay for your education or qualify for an academic scholarship just like every other student. However, I also believe that sports are their own discipline and take great dedication in order to succeed at. So, why force athletes to get both and pay them to do so? This soaks up a lot of resources by providing free education to many individuals who might not otherwise choose to focus on--along-side their athletic journey. Some of these young men and women are more athletically gifted than intellectually gifted.

Such a change might present the student-athlete with more opportunity to focus on what their natural talents are and give them a better shot to pursue a career in those sports--even if not in one of the major American professional leagues. Meanwhile, schools would no longer be handing out free academic rides to young men and women already being paid while other students have to pay--again unless one or the other qualifies for an academic scholarship.

While some athletes might be gifted enough to qualify for academic scholarships or opt out of pursuing academics altogether, some student athletes will choose to pay for an education in the event their athletic career doesn't work out. This actually creates revenue for the schools that might not otherwise exist under the new model. This gives schools additional revenue. Revenue that the schools could potentially use to fund other sports, for example. Which is another problem that is presented in this video.

On the latter note, so much for being an everything school. I submitted a note last year to Danny about collaborating with the school's media department, local businesses, etc. to help build markets for non-revenue generating sports in an effort to at least help them generate revenue to be self-sustaining. If the new legislation does indeed have the stated impact on non-revenue generating sports, these sports will have needed something like this yesterday.

I really wish there was a 24-hour tv station and online publication geared towards airing all Tennessee sports material that donated a portion of its revenue to these non-revenue generating sports. It would give the communications/advertising departments a lot of real world experience (keeping the costs low). It could be an entire production from media coverage, production, design, advertising, etc. and real-world brands could advertise on the commercials, team jerseys, digital assets, radio, television ads, etc. and realize a return. The students working for this operation could interview professionals from major sports publications to add meat and credibility to their material while gaining real-world experience. This would also be free advertising for the major sports publications.

The list goes on. I love our major college sports, but I'm not liking the monster they are becoming. There are ways to make it all happen.

If you don’t require them to be enrolled and attend classes toward a degree program then college athletics cease to exist, which is why I am against them being employees of the school. Because how can you force some employees to take classes to be paid while not requiring the same of other employees? Would be a huge discrimination lawsuit and the athletes would win. If they aren’t enrolled then all you have are a bunch of dudes you convinced to move to Knoxville to play minor league football in Neyland Stadium. No thanks
 
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There just has to be a way for the traditional schools to keep doing what they have been doing to keep that edge in recruiting. If they don’t, you will see much more parity in college football and basketball.

What I’m saying is, for the most part, there has to be a cap on what a college can legally give a player. If not, there will be some Dodge dealerships in Tuscaloosa going broke by not flipping Chargers.
 
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Just more rules for schools to circumvent.
yep...buddy of mine worked @ Hendricks motor engine shop and back in the Jeff Gordon/Jimmy Johnson/Little E days, and they always liked it when Nascar came down w/ more rules b/c Hendricks had deep pocket R&D money to find the smallest of things to bend around the rules that would make them faster.
 
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Given that the NCAA will allow colleges to pay athletes directly beginning this year, I'm definitely confused as to how or why NIL will continue to exist. I mean I thought it was basically created to circumvent the old system... right?
NIL has always existed. Just another word for endorsement deals. The NCAA just illegally prevented college players from utilizing it.

As to why it will continue to exist in college football.......because it can in some form. Maybe collectives will fade out. But college players will get paid NIL because like pro-sports some college players will be marketable and profitable to businesses.
 
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If you don’t require them to be enrolled and attend classes toward a degree program then college athletics cease to exist, which is why I am against them being employees of the school. Because how can you force some employees to take classes to be paid while not requiring the same of other employees? Would be a huge discrimination lawsuit and the athletes would win. If they aren’t enrolled then all you have are a bunch of dudes you convinced to move to Knoxville to play minor league football in Neyland Stadium. No thanks
They already crossed the line with consistency between students and student athletes who are paid to play for college teams (or who were given academic scholarships because they were good at football and not academics.. But, who is to say being a banker is any more important than being a football player when it comes to learning? You can't play for a college team if you don't learn the sport. There are many professions that are developed through football. Also, I wasn't implying that you force some kids to go to class. It's the kids who want to learn typical academia that CAN go and pay or who can still CAN get an academic scholarship. Those who don't get the scholarship probably don't have the grades. Same scenario for every student.
 
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It's all based on revenue.... but nobody is regulating it.. There is nothing stoping people paying 12 mill for a Qb. There is nothing saying you can't offer a Nico like contract to a HS player and then just move on from him if he isn't good. There are absolutely no rules and no body monitoring whatsoever.... it's all joke

You can potentially right now say "hey player.. ill give you 20 million over 4 years to come here"
THAT IS WILD
Recruiting is dead.. don't waste your time
 
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They already crossed the line with consistency between students and student athletes who are paid to play for college teams (or who were given academic scholarships because they were good at football and not academics.. But, who is to say being a banker is any more important than being a football player when it comes to learning? You can't play for a college team if you don't learn the sport. There are many professions that are developed through football. Also, I wasn't implying that you force some kids to go to class. It's the kids who want to learn typical academia that CAN go and pay or who can still CAN get an academic scholarship. Those who don't get the scholarship probably don't have the grades. Same scenario for every student.
We can think of it as the "trade school" division of UT and the trade they're learning is their chosen sport.

In the conservative culture that is VN, realizing college isn't for everyone and learning a trade is just as worthy as going to school should be easy to sell, so that trade is football or basketball or baseball, not welding or plumbing or electrical work.

It should be an easy concept to embrace and shouldn't be that difficult to wrap our heads around it since we pay the coaches of these sports millions to teach and coach these players. We're already IN the business of teaching athletics as a trade. Just make it official.
 
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We can think of it as the "trade school" division of UT and the trade they're learning is their chosen sport.

In the conservative culture that is VN, realizing college isn't for everyone and learning a trade is just as worthy as going to school should be easy to sell, so that trade is football or basketball or baseball, not welding or plumbing or electrical work.

It should be an easy concept to embrace and shouldn't be that difficult to wrap our heads around it since we pay the coaches of these sports millions to teach and coach these players. We're already IN the business of teaching athletics as a trade. Just make it official.
Boom. Thank you sir.
 

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