Nobody knew Cedric Tillman in July 2021 but

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He emerged as one of the top WRs in the SEC that season

Nobody knew Jalin Hyatt was in July 2022 but he won the award for top WR in CFB

Nobody knew Jaylen Wright was in July 2023 but he led the SEC in rushing.

Nobody knew Dylan Sampson was in July 2024 but he won the SEC offensive player of the year.

The thing about history is it repeats itself. Somebody will have a breakout season in 2025.
 
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Agreed. And don't forget that on paper this is Josh Huepel's most talented team since he got here. Which is why I find it funny that so many on here are pessimistic about our chances this year. History says that this will be Huepel's best team. Which is why I think we can be even better than we were last year.

Its playoffs or bust based on our talent profile and Huepel's history.
 
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Wright didn’t lead the SEC in rushing. In fact, he wasn’t in the top 4.

Also people knew Wright, Sampson had a 4 TD game to his credit in 2023, Hyatt was a 4 star recruit. Tillman is the only guy who was just a complete afterthought.

I’m sure we will have multiple guys break out in the team this year. The problem is we are going to have to have multiple guys break out in every unit this year to compete for anything of consequence. The odds of that happening are very slim.
 
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Wright didn’t lead the SEC in rushing. In fact, he wasn’t in the top 4.

Also people knew Wright, Sampson had a 4 TD game to his credit in 2023, Hyatt was a 4 star recruit. Tillman is the only guy who was just a complete afterthought.

I’m sure we will have multiple guys break out in the team this year. The problem is we are going to have to have multiple guys break out in every unit this year to compete for anything of consequence. The odds of that happening are very slim.
Tennessee led the SEC in rushing in ‘23 with Wright leading the way. Wright wasn’t among the 3 preseason all SEC teams. Sampson was 3rd team preseason all SEC last year so I guess you could say they knew him. Barely. Hyatt was a kid that lost his position the year before.
 
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Wright didn’t lead the SEC in rushing. In fact, he wasn’t in the top 4.

Also people knew Wright, Sampson had a 4 TD game to his credit in 2023, Hyatt was a 4 star recruit. Tillman is the only guy who was just a complete afterthought.

I’m sure we will have multiple guys break out in the team this year. The problem is we are going to have to have multiple guys break out in every unit this year to compete for anything of consequence. The odds of that happening are very slim.
You're correct about Jaylen Wright. Dylan Sampson also had a solid year in 2023 in a backup role.
Jalin Hyatt had 20 catches for 276 yards and 2 TDs in 2020, then 21 catches for 226 and 2 TDs in 2021 before breaking out in 2022 for 67 catches for 1,267 and 15 TDs and winning the Biletnikoff. He also had a lot of dropped passes his first two seasons. I'd say that more than qualifies as coming out of nowhere. Was he a four star? Yes, but so was Chris Brazzell(transfer ranking), Amari Jefferson, and Braylon Staley. Mike Matthews was a composite five star.
Your last statement is just pure nonsense.
 
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Agreed. And don't forget that on paper this is Josh Huepel's most talented team since he got here. Which is why I find it funny that so many on here are pessimistic about our chances this year. History says that this will be Huepel's best team. Which is why I think we can be even better than we were last year.

Its playoffs or bust based on our talent profile and Huepel's history.
Ladies and gentlemen, the sage who predicted a natty in 2017 has spoken. 😂
 
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He emerged as one of the top WRs in the SEC that season

Nobody knew Jalin Hyatt was in July 2022 but he won the award for top WR in CFB

Nobody knew Jaylen Wright was in July 2023 but he led the SEC in rushing.

Nobody knew Dylan Sampson was in July 2024 but he won the SEC offensive player of the year.

The thing about history is it repeats itself. Somebody will have a breakout season in 2025.

Archie?????
 
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Agreed. And don't forget that on paper this is Josh Huepel's most talented team since he got here. Which is why I find it funny that so many on here are pessimistic about our chances this year. History says that this will be Huepel's best team. Which is why I think we can be even better than we were last year.

Its playoffs or bust based on our talent profile and Huepel's history.
I sincerely hope you're right. But you're comparing pre-NIL teams with post-NIL teams. NIL has affected team chemistry in probably every D1 school. This is a learning curve for most college coaches (and fans). From now on, its all about 2 numbers - compensation level and personal game-stats.
 
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You're correct about Jaylen Wright. Dylan Sampson also had a solid year in 2023 in a backup role.
Jalin Hyatt had 20 catches for 276 yards and 2 TDs in 2020, then 21 catches for 226 and 2 TDs in 2021 before breaking out in 2022 for 67 catches for 1,267 and 15 TDs and winning the Biletnikoff. He also had a lot of dropped passes his first two seasons. I'd say that more than qualifies as coming out of nowhere. Was he a four star? Yes, but so was Chris Brazzell(transfer ranking), Amari Jefferson, and Braylon Staley. Mike Matthews was a composite five star.
Your last statement is just pure nonsense.
What positional unit isn’t dependent upon multiple guys breaking out? Aside from the positions that typically only field one guy at a time (we need one to breakout at QB and RB, maybe at TE if Kitselman isn’t right after his injury). We need a couple receivers to break out. We need 5 o linemen to break out. We need 4 D linemen to break out. We need a couple linebackers to break out. We need a couple in the secondary to break out.
 
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Tennessee led the SEC in rushing in ‘23 with Wright leading the way. Wright wasn’t among the 3 preseason all SEC teams. Sampson was 3rd team preseason all SEC last year so I guess you could say they knew him. Barely. Hyatt was a kid that lost his position the year before.
You don’t have to be preseason all conference to be “known.”
 
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Wright didn’t lead the SEC in rushing. In fact, he wasn’t in the top 4.

Also people knew Wright, Sampson had a 4 TD game to his credit in 2023, Hyatt was a 4 star recruit. Tillman is the only guy who was just a complete afterthought.

I’m sure we will have multiple guys break out in the team this year. The problem is we are going to have to have multiple guys break out in every unit this year to compete for anything of consequence. The odds of that happening are very slim.
I think Hyatt was a complete afterthought. Nobody saw that coming. Idc how many stars he had, he wasn't producing much until 22.

Tillman came out of nowhere and so did Velus Jones. They both played for Pruitt the year before but barley combined for 300 yards receiving. The first year with CJH they combined for 1800 yards and 19 TD's. We have a new receiving yards leader every year under CJH. It's almost always a complete afterthought. Tillman, Hyatt, White, & Thornton.

None of them went crazy the year before they led the group. IIRC none of them were even top 3 WR's the previous seasons. Brazzell, Matthews and Staley are in nearly identical situations as those guys were.

Wright is the only repeat rushing leader in the CJH era and he didnt lead the team in carries 1 of those 2 years. He and Sampson both had questions on if they could even be the lead back, let alone a top back in the country. That run scheme works. It's been proven since day 1 with less talent. Bishop will likely do exactly what his predecessors did if he stays healthy. Lewis will do the same a year later.
 
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He emerged as one of the top WRs in the SEC that season

Nobody knew Jalin Hyatt was in July 2022 but he won the award for top WR in CFB

Nobody knew Jaylen Wright was in July 2023 but he led the SEC in rushing.

Nobody knew Dylan Sampson was in July 2024 but he won the SEC offensive player of the year.

The thing about history is it repeats itself. Somebody will have a breakout season in 2025.
Which WR and RB coaches did all that? Thats one thing i have been considering. And imagine if all of them had a 5* OL
 
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What positional unit isn’t dependent upon multiple guys breaking out? Aside from the positions that typically only field one guy at a time (we need one to breakout at QB and RB, maybe at TE if Kitselman isn’t right after his injury). We need a couple receivers to break out. We need 5 o linemen to break out. We need 4 D linemen to break out. We need a couple linebackers to break out. We need a couple in the secondary to break out.
Our DB group should be better than they were last year, especially at CB and Star. That unit's success is much more reliant on how McCoy returns from injury than having anyone have a breakout season, much less multiple players needing to do so. Safety is the biggest concern but that's no different than this time last year.
Our LB group returns everyone of consequence besides Pili, who stayed injured, and should be better than last year. Again, not reliant on any breakout performances.
Our DL lost a few really good players but also returns quite a few really good players and still has depth along with some highly rated recruits coming in, including Isaiah Campbell and Mariyon Dye. Again, multiple breakout seasons not required.
Our OL is a bit of a question mark but I'm not sure I'd say we need multiple players to have breakout seasons. We need Pendleton and Moe to be at least solid, Heard to stay healthy and show improvement from last year and Sanders to be at least solid. For me, the biggest concern there is replacing Mays at Center.
Our TE group is more talented than they have been in years. Kitselman needs to get healthy but Ethan Davis and the two Freshman should be capable of success.
Replacing Dylan Sampson at RB is no small task but, with the yearly success we have had running the football with whomever is back there, I'm not too concerned about our ability to be at or near the top of the SEC again this year as a team.
WR is another talented group, albeit a bit inexperienced. While it would certainly be helpful to have a couple guys breakout, we didn't have anyone fit that mold last year and we made the playoffs.
QB is a pretty big question mark at this point. Again, it would be great if Aguilar or Merklinger had a breakout season but we weren't exactly dynamic at that spot last year and still made the playoffs. I think the most important aspect this year is to have whomever is QB1 be able to make quick decisions, hit open receivers downfield and limit mistakes.
 
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Thats all well and good, but none of those seasons ended how we wanted.

Sign me up for established star SEC players who can lead us to conference and national titles and then be high draft picks who truly succeed on Sunday's..
 
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He emerged as one of the top WRs in the SEC that season

Nobody knew Jalin Hyatt was in July 2022 but he won the award for top WR in CFB

Nobody knew Jaylen Wright was in July 2023 but he led the SEC in rushing.

Nobody knew Dylan Sampson was in July 2024 but he won the SEC offensive player of the year.

The thing about history is it repeats itself. Somebody will have a breakout season in 2025.
Here’s hoping it’s Joey Aguilar, among others.

I think Chris Brazzell is one who would make a lot of sense.
 
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I think Hyatt was a complete afterthought. Nobody saw that coming. Idc how many stars he had, he wasn't producing much until 22.

Tillman came out of nowhere and so did Velus Jones. They both played for Pruitt the year before but barley combined for 300 yards receiving. The first year with CJH they combined for 1800 yards and 19 TD's. We have a new receiving yards leader every year under CJH. It's almost always a complete afterthought. Tillman, Hyatt, White, & Thornton.

None of them went crazy the year before they led the group. IIRC none of them were even top 3 WR's the previous seasons. Brazzell, Matthews and Staley are in nearly identical situations as those guys were.

Wright is the only repeat rushing leader in the CJH era and he didnt lead the team in carries 1 of those 2 years. He and Sampson both had questions on if they could even be the lead back, let alone a top back in the country. That run scheme works. It's been proven since day 1 with less talent. Bishop will likely do exactly what his predecessors did if he stays healthy. Lewis will do the same a year later.
Velus Jones was known. He was good at USC
 
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Our DB group should be better than they were last year, especially at CB and Star. That unit's success is much more reliant on how McCoy returns from injury than having anyone have a breakout season, much less multiple players needing to do so. Safety is the biggest concern but that's no different than this time last year.
Our LB group returns everyone of consequence besides Pili, who stayed injured, and should be better than last year. Again, not reliant on any breakout performances.
Our DL lost a few really good players but also returns quite a few really good players and still has depth along with some highly rated recruits coming in, including Isaiah Campbell and Mariyon Dye. Again, multiple breakout seasons not required.
Our OL is a bit of a question mark but I'm not sure I'd say we need multiple players to have breakout seasons. We need Pendleton and Moe to be at least solid, Heard to stay healthy and show improvement from last year and Sanders to be at least solid. For me, the biggest concern there is replacing Mays at Center.
Our TE group is more talented than they have been in years. Kitselman needs to get healthy but Ethan Davis and the two Freshman should be capable of success.
Replacing Dylan Sampson at RB is no small task but, with the yearly success we have had running the football with whomever is back there, I'm not too concerned about our ability to be at or near the top of the SEC again this year as a team.
WR is another talented group, albeit a bit inexperienced. While it would certainly be helpful to have a couple guys breakout, we didn't have anyone fit that mold last year and we made the playoffs.
QB is a pretty big question mark at this point. Again, it would be great if Aguilar or Merklinger had a breakout season but we weren't exactly dynamic at that spot last year and still made the playoffs. I think the most important aspect this year is to have whomever is QB1 be able to make quick decisions, hit open receivers downfield and limit mistakes.
You talk about the McCoy injury like it’s just a given, when in reality it is a huge question mark. We already need a safety to breakout. If McCoy isn’t the same guy he was, we need another corner to breakout. McCoy was great last year and any drop off in play could have a very bad impact on the secondary, which was already mediocre in the biggest spots last year.

The dirty little secret last year was that our linebackers were below average after Pili went out. The defense was also markedly worse. We definitely need better play there.

The DL definitely needs guys to breakout. I think we will be fine there, but the defense the last couple years has required the DL to be more than fine. A dropoff there could really expose the back 7.

The OL definitely needs some breakout guys. Heard has to improve A LOT. Sanders could be everything we hope he is in 2 or 3 years but not be a good player right now, a la Darnell Wright. Pendleton has only gotten action due to injury so far. Is he gonna be good enough to run with the job? Center as you acknowledge is a huge question mark. I think Moe will be an upgrade, but the other 4 are huge question marks. We need at least two guys to breakout at those positions.

Tight end, I think we will be fine there if Kitselman’s injury didn’t derail him. Otherwise, it’s a bunch of unproven guys and we will need one to breakout.

Running back, I view about the same as the DL. I’d say we will be fine there. Problem is, based on last year, we need to be better than fine. Sampson was great and we still struggled on offense. He was the whole offense. Replacing that is asking a lot, and someone will have to breakout.

Receiver is not overly talented. It’s not like we have a Jeremiah Smith or Ryan Williams out there. We definitely need someone to breakout. Last year I would argue Thornton broke out, and even with that, receiver play was not good enough. Sure, we made the playoff, but it was 100% in spite of the passing game.

QB, I don’t think anyone will argue Shute fact that we need someone to breakout.

All in all, we have question marks at every single position. There’s not one that we should feel great about. That’s asking a lot if we are expected to tread water compared to last year, and it’s asking even more if we are to actually be competitive for championships. I don’t see how anyone with any objectivity could look at the roster and say “oh we don’t need a bunch of guys to breakout.” Most of the team has never done what they are going to be asked to do.
 

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