How important do you think it is for a QB to "win the team over"?

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Overrated stated. I think in general “intangibles” are overstated as reasons teams win or lose football games. For example it’s both simpler and more entertaining to most to craft a narrative that Tennessee whipped Oklahoma last year bc the players wanted to do it for Heupel, when in reality it was clear then and clearer by the end of the season Tennessee just had a better football team (and a ravenous D line)
 
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I think it's important for the coach to "win" the team. And for the coach to pick the qb that moves the team downfield the best. Not the best thrower of the ball or who has the prettiest spiral or who's the most popular.
 
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How important do you think it is for a QB to "win the team over"?​

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I'd say it's pretty important that teammates like each other. The chemistry will be better, so the results should be too. On the other hand, I'm sure Merk and McIntyre are showing up to the same pool parties and interacting too. Hopefully, they are bonding with Joey. Having a cohesive QB room would really have to help with the learning curve.
 
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Vol49er said:
Overrated stated. I think in general “intangibles” are overstated as reasons teams win or lose football games. For example it’s both simpler and more entertaining to most to craft a narrative that Tennessee whipped Oklahoma last year bc the players wanted to do it for Heupel, when in reality it was clear then and clearer by the end of the season Tennessee just had a better football team (and a ravenous D line)
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I agree that Tenn didn’t beat Ok because they just wanted to win for Heupel, but I think my definition of “intangibles” is underrated by fans, but it is what successful coaches have, that leads to continued success year after year. Even with the turnover in today’s game, it is the coaches who create a real team atmosphere, know how to select and create leaders, can motivate at the right times, these are intangibles I think lead to success.
 
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It was said that the team really liked Joe Milton. Unfortunately, that didn't mean Joe Milton was the better QB than Hooker. That's not to imply the team didn't like Hooker, they did but Joe was apparently really well liked in the locker room.

Leadership matters. Being the new guy, coming in late after the drama with Nico, being relatively unknown (not a highly sought after blue chip QB like Merk or G-Mac,) Joey Aguilar is right to try to establish himself as a voice on the team.

It'll be even better if he can establish himself as a leader on the field but some of that starts off the field.
 
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I would be surprised if Heupel has created a culture where the teammates don't welcome whomever and one where the understanding is you have to put in the work to get the job. He is quoted speaking about in the latter part in the article. As far as his efforts to connect with his team goes, I think it's less about winning them over than it is about building team chemistry. If he does win the starting job, that will go far.
 
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IMO there’s a good chance a team rallies around an underdog leader who didn’t sign for 8M. There was little chance of no jealousy within our program or any others if an 18 yr old comes in and gets paid like Nico did. You have upperclassmen who’ve put in the sweat and blood who make a fraction of that. It’s impossible for jealousy about $ among 100 18-23 yr males not to exist with the landmark deal he got. Then the clothing line etc.
 
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Skooter said:
IMO there’s a good chance a team rallies around an underdog leader who didn’t sign for 8M. There was little chance of no jealousy within our program or any others if an 18 yr old comes in and gets paid like Nico did. You have upperclassmen who’ve put in the sweat and blood who make a fraction of that. It’s impossible for jealousy about $ among 100 18-23 yr males not to exist with the landmark deal he got. Then the clothing line etc.
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That's not good for Faizon Brandon, then, who will likely get big money and may have a national deal as well.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
That's not good for Faizon Brandon, then, who will likely get big money and may have a national deal as well.
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Remember Nico was the first big NIL college football signing. Now it’s more broad across the top 25ish and other players are making more money, including the OL. Our OTs weren’t making Sanders or Heard $ when Nico got to campus.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
That's not good for Faizon Brandon, then, who will likely get big money and may have a national deal as well.
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Hopefully by the time Brandon gets here, there will be some kind more clear 'structure', whether it be legislated or marketed, in place and players will understand value of certain positions over others.

That said, my opinion is that even if a guy gets a big money deal to come play he needs to build this kind of chemistry with the team.
We've seen it play out here, other places in college ball, heck even the NFL - how many times have we seen a team pay big money on a QB and the team not go anywhere.
Granted that's not all on the chemistry part of things, but team cohesiveness plays a huge part in success.
 
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I think a guy can't be a jerk but "winning the team over" by a QB is somewhat overrated. If a QB has that intangible ability to put the team on his back when the chips are down and produce a win, THAT on the field type of performance is what produces positively better performances out of teammates IMO. All the pizza parties in the world cannot produce how Hooker's teammates felt about him after his Bama victory by the Vols a few years back for example.
 
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The fact that Miles Kitzleman said Aguilar became best friends with almost everyone on the team within the first month tells you a lot of about his "rizz" and what kind of person he is. It's not absolutely required but goes a long way that when he wins the job there will be no dissention.
 
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Your QB is in the most favorable place to be the leader of the O. Others can be the leader but it is harder to do it well. The QB has the most immediate and obvious opportunity.
 
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Skooter said:
Remember Nico was the first big NIL college football signing. Now it’s more broad across the top 25ish and other players are making more money, including the OL. Our OTs weren’t making Sanders or Heard $ when Nico got to campus.
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It's unlikely our OTs are making the $1M+ our current QBs are likely making. Brandon is even more sought after and more talented. If we don't pay him well, he won't stay committed.

It's always going to be like that. Highly skilled players in key positions will get a lot of money, as they do in pro leagues, even with salary caps and such.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
It's unlikely our OTs are making the $1M+ our current QBs are likely making. Brandon is even more sought after and more talented. If we don't pay him well, he won't stay committed.

It's always going to be like that. Highly skilled players in key positions will get a lot of money, as they do in pro leagues, even with salary caps and such.
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I get it but when Nico signed for 8M the OL was making $0 combined from NIL collective.
 
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