Groundhog Day…Stopping Third and 10?

[casual-observer]

It’s probably my perception, but it seems last year the defense had trouble stopping third and 10 with the opposing teams hitting slants in the middle. Today:

4/10: 29 yard pass over the middle
3/10: 11 yard pass over the middle
3/11: 22 yard pass up the left
3/6: 28 yard pass up the middle
4/1: 8 yard pass up the middle

Five chances blown to get off the field. It feels like they have a better chance of getting off the field on 3 and short vs 3 and long.

Is it just hard to defend or kryptonite of the UT defense? I don’t have numbers to back it up, but felt like this was an issue last year, too.

 

[Rememberthelate90s]

We got up early and went vanilla. Next week will be the same.

 

[Go47]

It’s not you. It’s been a trend with Banks as our defensive coordinator. I know all of the arguments: it’s the players, they have to make plays, etc. But the trend is undeniable (to me).

His defenses struggle to get off the field on 3rd and long . . .

 

[zeppelin128]

We haven't been able to stop a slant in 20 years.

 

[goldvol]

I noticed it too, so you’re not alone. A big concern is the lack of pressure we’re able to get in good situations, which leads to the qb having a lot of time, which felt different than 1st and 2nd downs

 

[PEPPERJAX]

It’s not you. It’s been a trend with Banks as our defensive coordinator. I know all of the arguments: it’s the players, they have to make plays, etc. But the trend is undeniable (to me).

His defenses struggle to get off the field on 3rd and long . . .

We were great at getting off the field on third down last year.

 

[vegasvolfan]

It’s probably my perception, but it seems last year the defense had trouble stopping third and 10 with the opposing teams hitting slants in the middle. Today:

4/10: 29 yard pass over the middle
3/10: 11 yard pass over the middle
3/11: 22 yard pass up the left
3/6: 28 yard pass up the middle
4/1: 8 yard pass up the middle

Five chances blown to get off the field. It feels like they have a better chance of getting off the field on 3 and short vs 3 and long.

Is it just hard to defend or kryptonite of the UT defense? I don’t have numbers to back it up, but felt like this was an issue last year, too.

I think most of that started after AC went down, but I could be wrong. I think there will be less of that with McCoy and Boo back and in full action. We definitely disintegrated.

 

[WillisWG]

Sunday-Monday coaching is a lost art

Cuse went 5/14 on 3rd down. It's almost like the D didn't have 5 sacks (39), 7 TFL (45) and a defensive score

 

[TheVolsFrog]

That is known as the dreaded 3rd/4th and TN.
Appears to be no cure, just have to live with the illness as a VOLS fan.

 

[OrangeBeachVol]

Brings back memories of Chavis and 3rd and long. When they didn't pressure the Cuse QB on the 3rd downs he was accurate.

 

[KeyVol14]

Syracuse was 5-14 on 3rd down...4th down defense in my opinion was worst

 

[BigorangeBoy]

Need to poop can the soft zone

 

[casual-observer]

We were great at getting off the field on third down last year.

You are correct. TN was ranked 6th nationally only allowing 30% conversion.

 

[cgrish]

It’s probably my perception, but it seems last year the defense had trouble stopping third and 10 with the opposing teams hitting slants in the middle. Today:

4/10: 29 yard pass over the middle
3/10: 11 yard pass over the middle
3/11: 22 yard pass up the left
3/6: 28 yard pass up the middle
4/1: 8 yard pass up the middle

Five chances blown to get off the field. It feels like they have a better chance of getting off the field on 3 and short vs 3 and long.

Is it just hard to defend or kryptonite of the UT defense? I don’t have numbers to back it up, but felt like this was an issue last year, too.

I agree with you, do better on third and short than we do on 3rd and long. And the middle is and has been vvery vulnerable for us. I don't know the solution, i was watching on tv and can't really tell if dc is changing the defensive, but if he is, maybe we should stick to what got us to 3rd and long.

 

[GAVol]

We got up early and went vanilla. Next week will be the same.

We got lost in th secondary at times, but that was a lot of it.

 

[Volfan76]

Most of not all of those third and longs that were converted we only rushed 4. That's one thing about Banks that drives me crazy

 

[casual-observer]

Do you think this is on the Mike LB? Cover 2, safeties playing too deep and the corners covering the outside. Always vulnerable between the lb and safeties. Teleanders responsibility?

I’m sure coach Banks is reading this and will thank me for the observations.

 

[the_todd]

You guys really will bitch & whine about anything & everything.

 

[casual-observer]

You guys really will bitch & whine about anything & everything.

Clearly, you are confused with the difference between whining and at-home defense analysis. Coach Banks appreciates the hard work put in each week by us.

 

[cardvolfan]

You guys really will bitch & whine about anything & everything.

Getting off the field on 3rd down plays is huge. It’s a very valid point to discuss.

 

[Tnphil]

Cuse had damn near twice the plays the second half that we had I read earlier.

 

[casual-observer]

Cuse had damn near twice the plays the second half that we had I read earlier.

First Half No. of Plays:
TN: 43
Syracuse: 49

Second Half No. of Plays:
TN: 35
Syracuse: 45

 

[cardvolfan]

Cuse had damn near twice the plays the second half that we had I read earlier.

Cuse ended up with about 10 more minutes of possession time as well after being essentially equal the first half.

 

[OH-Vol]

I noticed the same, we got carved passing downs.... Poor pash rusher with 4 and awful safety play. Biggest concern of the game, we really need McCoy back and someone to emerge as elite on the DL