Maybe CJH knew all along...

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Just watched the UCLA game. Nico looked the exact same as he did last year, and Utah clobbered them. So it's crystal clear that our O-line, running game, and defense were the reasons for our success last year, not our star QB.

When CJH announced that Iamaleava was leaving UT, it came out of nowhere. It was very sudden. Coach didn't seem to be all that interested in persuading Iamaleava to stay. So I have to wonder: did CJH know that Iamaleava was way over-hyped, that he was our weakest link, and maybe he saw Nico's demand for more NIL money not as a sudden problem, but rather as an opportunity? Joey Aguilar was on nobody's radar before the trade, but it's obvious UT upgraded. Maybe CJH knew any old QB who could go to a 2nd or 3rd read receiver would be an upgrade.

Side note: seems Heupel is such a good coach, that our system can do great things with an average WB.
 
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carolinaviking said:
Just watched the UCLA game. Nico looked the exact same as he did last year, and Utah clobbered them. So it's crystal clear that our O-line, running game, and defense were the reasons for our success last year, not our star QB.

When CJH announced that Iamaleava was leaving UT, it came out of nowhere. It was very sudden. Coach didn't seem to be all that interested in persuading Iamaleava to stay. So I have to wonder: did CJH know that Iamaleava was way over-hyped, that he was our weakest link, and maybe he saw Nico's demand for more NIL money not as a sudden problem, but rather as an opportunity? Joey Aguilar was on nobody's radar before the trade, but it's obvious UT upgraded. Maybe CJH knew any old QB who could go to a 2nd or 3rd read receiver would be an upgrade.

Side note: seems Heupel is such a good coach, that our system can do great things with an average WB.
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He knew...now the entire football world knows (even that nitwit Joe Klatt). :rolleyes:
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Well he didn’t know all along because he did think Milton and Nico were good. But fortunately he didn’t let a Fredo hold us hostage for a Michael deal.
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Whatever Heupel thought about Milton is exponentially more credible than what you thought about him. HTF could someone like you ever have clue as to what is in Heupel's mind? On his worst day, he forgot more about the game than you know about it on your best day
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Whatever Heupel thought about Milton is exponentially more credible than what you thought about him. HTF could someone like you ever have clue as to what is in Heupel's mind? On his worst day, he forgot more about the game than you know about it on your best day
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You have to skim past that one. It's never a logical thought, just a divisive one.
 
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VolTom1 said:
The only person who didn't know he was overrated was him and his dad. Why do you think he ended up at UCLA.
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Boy it sure seemed like a lot of Vol fans didn't know...or didn't want to know. I got reminded many times last year "but he's only a Freshman!" As if there's some major reason a RS freshman should be way behind a sophomore.

Amazingly, as soon as he hit the portal a lot of Vol fans started to agree with me.

Other than it being late in the cycle, I was thrilled we got a chance to dump his salary. I said after the season we should cut him and upgrade the roster- I just don't think we'd be able to pull it off so late in the cycle.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Well he didn’t know all along because he did think Milton and Nico were good. But fortunately he didn’t let a Fredo hold us hostage for a Michael deal.
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Milton gets a bad rep...

Considering how quick Hype has returned us to a normal scale of relevance, Milton was not that bad of a qb looking back.
 
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MurphyVol said:
Boy it sure seemed like a lot of Vol fans didn't know...or didn't want to know. I got reminded many times last year "but he's only a Freshman!" As if there's some major reason a RS freshman should be way behind a sophomore.

Amazingly, as soon as he hit the portal a lot of Vol fans started to agree with me.

Other than it being late in the cycle, I was thrilled we got a chance to dump his salary. I said after the season we should cut him and upgrade the roster- I just don't think we'd be able to pull it off so late in the cycle.
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Yep, a lot on here were comparing him to Peyton’s True Freshman year. When I pointed out he graduated HS early as a EE he’d been with the team 2 -1/2 years & played 5 games before his RS Fresman year but they were still comparing him to Peyton’s true Freshman year. He was rated about 11th or 12th in SEC QBs last year. Money wise the collective hit a home run when his father packed his bags.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Whatever Heupel thought about Milton is exponentially more credible than what you thought about him. HTF could someone like you ever have clue as to what is in Heupel's mind? On his worst day, he forgot more about the game than you know about it on your best day
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I don’t know why y’all converse with that sad sack. The Ignore button is your friend.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Well he didn’t know all along because he did think Milton and Nico were good. But fortunately he didn’t let a Fredo hold us hostage for a Michael deal.
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You do realize that Milton is a #2 QB in the NFL in his second year? Milton always has had, and always will have, better arm talent than anyone on his team…and that will carry through his pro career.

And he got better over his time here. And looks like he’s continuing to develop.
 
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MurphyVol said:
Boy it sure seemed like a lot of Vol fans didn't know...or didn't want to know. I got reminded many times last year "but he's only a Freshman!" As if there's some major reason a RS freshman should be way behind a sophomore.

Amazingly, as soon as he hit the portal a lot of Vol fans started to agree with me.

Other than it being late in the cycle, I was thrilled we got a chance to dump his salary. I said after the season we should cut him and upgrade the roster- I just don't think we'd be able to pull it off so late in the cycle.
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Nico does have exceptional physical talent. And I think he had a chance to develop into a very good QB under Heupel and likely get drafted. I don’t see that happening at UCLA, and I can see him being benched before the season ends.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Well he didn’t know all along because he did think Milton and Nico were good. But fortunately he didn’t let a Fredo hold us hostage for a Michael deal.
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Let’s be fair on Milton: he has fooled many coaches. The size and arm strength are just too good to pass up. He is in the NFL and coaches are still trying to fix him lol.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Milton gets a bad rep...

Considering how quick Hype has returned us to a normal scale of relevance, Milton was not that bad of a qb looking back.
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I don’t think he was near as bad and the fan base made home out to be either. He got zero help from the WR’s which made him look worse than he actually was.
 
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EZE said:
Nico does have exceptional physical talent. And I think he had a chance to develop into a very good QB under Heupel and likely get drafted. I don’t see that happening at UCLA, and I can see him being benched before the season ends.
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And they brought in his little brother as backup QB so they are stuck with that family.
 
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carolinaviking said:
Just watched the UCLA game. Nico looked the exact same as he did last year, and Utah clobbered them. So it's crystal clear that our O-line, running game, and defense were the reasons for our success last year, not our star QB.

When CJH announced that Iamaleava was leaving UT, it came out of nowhere. It was very sudden. Coach didn't seem to be all that interested in persuading Iamaleava to stay. So I have to wonder: did CJH know that Iamaleava was way over-hyped, that he was our weakest link, and maybe he saw Nico's demand for more NIL money not as a sudden problem, but rather as an opportunity? Joey Aguilar was on nobody's radar before the trade, but it's obvious UT upgraded. Maybe CJH knew any old QB who could go to a 2nd or 3rd read receiver would be an upgrade.

Side note: seems Heupel is such a good coach, that our system can do great things with an average WB.
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I posted this last night in the UCLA game thread, he seemed almost relieved in the interview when Nico thing broke, go watch it again.
 
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