Bye Week topic: SEC Officiating.

[McDad]

Generally, fans of the game are dissatisfied with officiating. It may be recency bias, but it seems like it is not improving. In fact, I think most everyone (fans, coaches, and media) will all agree it is getting worse. The problems are not limited to the SEC or the college game. It looks like this is true in all conferences and in the pro game.

So, what (if anything) can be done? Is it the resolution of cameras which make the bad calls more obvious? Does the modern game simply move too fast for the human eye? Do we need more officials, more cameras, more reviews?

What can be done to minimize the human error of officiating?

 

[McDad]

I can appreciate this isn't a good topic for the FF.

But why mod it to the BB forum???

 

[walkenvol]

I think it’s the constant replays with high definition TV’s and the official reviews. Probably the same officiating we’ve always had just never knew how bad it was before.

 

[McDad]

I think it’s the constant replays with high definition TV’s and the official reviews. Probably the same officiating we’ve always had just never knew how bad it was before.

would you favor a move to more booth-directed instant replay review as long as it didn't make the game longer?

 

[walkenvol]

would you favor a move to more booth-directed instant replay review as long as it didn't make the game longer?

Somehow they have to figure out how to expedite the replay process to make a ruling within a couple minutes. We all want the correct call but if it can’t happen in a timely manner then folks will just have to accept the human error factor with officiating and know you have to create enough point cushion to not leave the game outcome to chance. Unfortunate, but is that way in most every team sport. JMO

 

[McDad]

Thanks for fixing the mistake on my end, Freak.

VN is a creative bunch of posters. Really curious what others think about how to improve officiating.

 

[VOLdo Raine]

For some reason, this reminded me of the call during the Tn-UCLA softball game that took FOREVER and we knew what it was going to be before they announced the call. The one where the ucla player did not tag home plate. I know we’re on football now. I know we did win the game. But I just remember knowing what the call was going to be before it was announced because they were taking all night to announce.

Maybe if they had had HD cameras…

 

[YankeeVol]

Thanks for fixing the mistake on my end, Freak.

VN is a creative bunch of posters. Really curious what others think about how to improve officiating.

Get rid of the human element.

 

[McDad]

Get rid of the human element.

How? You need humans on the field. Computers and AI cannot do it.

Show your work, bruh.

 

[McDad]

For some reason, this reminded me of the call during the Tn-UCLA softball game that took FOREVER and we knew what it was going to be before they announced the call. The one where the ucla player did not tag home plate. I know we’re on football now. I know we did win the game. But I just remember knowing what the call was going to be before it was announced because they were taking all night to announce.

Maybe if they had had HD cameras…

Is officiating in other sports deteriorating as badly as in football?

 

[Hurley Mooncalf]

Here's my take.

This is probably almost a trillion $ industry with betting, media and the schools.

1. Make officials full time. Pay them to be "the" experts in the game and expect excellence in game calls.
2. Use immediate replay when necessary similar to how the spring football leagues do.
3. Replay should be openly discussed, not hidden behind some distant office that no one knows what's going on there.

That would be my start, debate could be given as to teams having a challenge or two like in baseball for bad or missed calls.
Maybe with the gambling end having such a huge monetary stake in this, there will be pressure to get better officiating.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Is officiating in other sports deteriorating as badly as in football?

Seems like football and BB are both terrible.

The SEC and especially the playoffs need to let the TV broadcast have access to the audio AND video officials see and hear during reviews like the ACC started this year. Also...EVERY scoring play needs to be reviewed like it is in baseball with home runs.

 

[YankeeVol]

How? You need humans on the field. Computers and AI cannot do it.

Show your work, bruh.

I didn’t say it was possible or feasible

 

[Dadof2Vols]

You can’t fix the human element and get perfect officials but you can do the right thing by making everything reviewable and make the review transparent like the ACC did. You can always say not enough evidence.

But you don’t do that unless you truly want things fixed and want integrity.

At least the failing ACC wants their viewers to enjoy and stay glued to the TV. Others that’s you Greg wants to retain their power at any cost.

 

[McDad]

Here's my take.

This is probably almost a trillion $ industry with betting, media and the schools.

1. Make officials full time. Pay them to be "the" experts in the game and expect excellence in game calls.
2. Use immediate replay when necessary similar to how the spring football leagues do.
3. Replay should be openly discussed, not hidden behind some distant office that no one knows what's going on there.

That would be my start, debate could be given as to teams having a challenge or two like in baseball for bad or missed calls.
Maybe with the gambling end having such a huge monetary stake in this, there will be pressure to get better officiating.

Would you like to see more plays become reviewable?

The PI against Brazzle was ridiculous. I can appreciate it looked bad in real time but on the replay, especially the slo mo replay, it was obvious the defender lost his footing.

That should be re viewable or auto overturned by the 'booth' officials. right?

 

[McDad]

You can’t fix the human element and get perfect officials but you can do the right thing by making everything reviewable and make the review transparent like the ACC did. You can always say not enough evidence.

But you don’t do that unless you truly want things fixed and want integrity.

At least the failing ACC wants their viewers to enjoy and stay glued to the TV. Others that’s you Greg wants to retain their power at any cost.

Why wouldn't "they" want integrity and things fixed???

 

[Hurley Mooncalf]

Would you like to see more plays become reviewable?

The PI against Brazzle was ridiculous. I can appreciate it looked bad in real time but on the replay, especially the slo mo replay, it was obvious the defender lost his footing.

That should be re viewable or auto overturned by the 'booth' officials. right?

I don't know if you want them reviewing every play like that and buzzing in but maybe that's where you allow for each team to get one challenge a game and you keep it if you were right.

 

[hog88]

I think it’s the constant replays with high definition TV’s and the official reviews. Probably the same officiating we’ve always had just never knew how bad it was before.

^^This

 

[knoxvol52]

Officiating is sketchy in every sport, College and Professional.. it is what it is...

 

[McDad]

I don't know if you want them reviewing every play like that and buzzing in but maybe that's where you allow for each team to get one challenge a game and you keep it if you were right.

Hmm. Maybe the review system needs just a little tweak. Coaches have challenge flags for the team officials to take another look. Maybe the coaches should have a separate path to initiate a booth review.
for instance, one challenge flag per quarter and add two booth reviews which aren't initiated by officials on the field.

 

[ATCVolinmn]

Give the teams one challenge per game, or even per half but limit the challenge to certain calls....ie: pass interference, illegal man down field, etc. IMHO it doesn't matter how long it takes, within reason, just get it right!

 

[RockyTop140]

I think if you could expedite the review process more, refs throwing “maybe” flags could be good. They flag the play, a group looks at the occurrence and either confirms or denies the flag. This would only work if they could have it done in 30-45 seconds. Which seems unrealistic.

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

I think the review process needs to be overhauled. I hope the sec office is committed to helping correct obvious missed calls on any call. I hope they aren’t content in thinking everything is fine and couldn’t be improved. Refs have a hard job and reviews and challenges should be available for any calls or rule violations. The power should seek help from the nfl in ways to make things better. You can always put a time limit on all reviews and if it can’t be overruled in that time the call stands. GBO

 

[Sudden Impact]

Officiating is sketchy in every sport, College and Professional.. it is what it is...

Professional Officials are held accountable, evaluated, trained, and have no school bias or prejudice.

Pull a part-timer off the street to call a game is for high school but when it matters and games produce revenue for TV, Vegas, NC, and other sources. IOWs there is too much riding on a part timer or unprofessionally trained Official being able to call a game without a back up. Officials are going to miss calls I get that, but why wait until Tuesday to fix it. A win becomes a loss.

Each official has his own standard and that is just BS. We are not the only team that has been hosed by poor calls. This is more a reflection of the league and bad calls affecting the game's outcome in the first 5 games are up this year big.

I don't understand why we have an official guest host allowing his opinion to count as well. All this guest is doing is validating good and bad calls on the field. Commentators are now questioning calls which should be done. They have tried to fix game length but added more commercials to fill the void.

The call should have never been upheld. The two officials should have gotten together and discussed that play.

 

[Tnphil]

Hard to pay them full-time when most will work only 12 days per year.....Some get bowl games or playoff games but that still basically only 2 weeks out of a year. The same with the NFL....and they get several more regular season games and preseason games. I've known and had friends that were college or NFL refs....and they all had good private jobs. Several were attorneys.

NBA and MLB is pretty much every night....and both seasons are long. The flipping NBA goes most of the summer after the season too.