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Of the teams who have a realistic shot at making the playoff (And no, Vanderbilt has absolutely no shot, so don't be ridiculous with that crap)

SEC
Georgia (3-1,1-1) -
Kentucky, @ Auburn, Ole Miss, Florida, @ Mississippi St, Texas, Charlotte, @ Georgia Tech
Ole Miss (5-0, 3-0) - Washington St, @ Georgia, @ Oklahoma, South Carolina, The Citadel, Florida, @ Mississippi St
Texas (3-1, 0-0) - @ Florida, Oklahoma, @ Kentucky, @ Mississippi St, Vanderbilt, @ Georgia, Arkansas, Texas A&M
Tennessee (4-1, 1-1) - Arkansas, @ Alabama, @ Kentucky, Oklahoma, New Mexico St, @ Florida, Vanderbilt
Oklahoma (4-0, 1-1) - Kent State, Texas, @ South Carolina, Ole Miss, @ Tennessee, @ Alabama, Mizzou, LSU
LSU (4-1, 1-1) - South Carolina, @ Vanderbilt, Texas A&M, @ Alabama, Arkansas, Western Kentucky, @ Oklahoma
Texas A&M (4-0, 1-0) - Florida, @ Arkansas, @ LSU, @ Mizzou, South Carolina, Samford, @ Texas
Alabama (3-1, 1-0) - Vanderbilt, @ Mizzou, Tennessee, @ South Carolina, LSU, Oklahoma, E. Illinois, @ Auburn
Mizzou (5-0, 1-0) - Alabama, @ Auburn, @ Vanderbilt, Texas A&M, Mississippi St, @ Oklahoma, @ Arkansas

Anyone goes 11-1, they are guaranteed obviously
Georgia, Ole Miss, Texas, Tennessee, Oklahoma, LSU and Alabama are the teams that likely get in the playoffs with 10-2 records (obviously only 4 of these teams can get that since they play each other). 2 of these teams also play for the SEC title.

- Georgia outside of two upset losses is a lock
- Ole Miss has two difficult road games and if they don't get beat anywhere else they are a lock
- Texas loses two SEC games, they are out of the playoffs unless they win the SEC title
- Tennessee goes 6-1 with a loss to Bama or Oklahoma, they are in; if they go undefeated they play in the SEC title
- Oklahoma has a tough schedule unlikely to win Texas, Ole Miss, UT, Bama, Mizzou, LSU - they are likely out
- LSU loses two games they are out
- Texas A&M plays three tough road games in row and Texas at end, they aren't making it
- Mizzou has had an easy schedule but likely loses 3 games

Big Ten
Oregon (5-0, 2-0) - Indiana, @ Rutgers, Wisconsin, @ Iowa, Minnesota, USC, @ Washington
Ohio St (4-0, 1-0) - Minnesota, @ Illinois, @ Wisconsin, Penn St, @ Purdue, UCLA, Rutgers, @ Michigan
Indiana (5-0, 2-0) - @ Oregon, Michigan St, UCLA, @ Maryland, @ Penn St, Wisconsin, @ Purdue
Penn St (3-1, 0-1) - @ UCLA, Northwestern, @ Iowa, @ Ohio St, Indiana, @ Michigan St, Nebraska, @ Rutgers
USC (4-1, 2-1) - Michigan, @ Notre Dame, @ Nebraska, Northwestern, Iowa, @ Oregon, UCLA
Michigan (3-1, 1-0) - Wisconsin, @ USC, Washington, @ Michigan St, Purdue, @ Northwestern, @ Maryland, Ohio St
Illinois (4-1, 1-1) - @ Purdue, Ohio St, @ Washington, Rutgers, Maryland, @ Wisconsin, Northwestern

- Oregon and Ohio St are locks
- Penn St at 10-2 is a lock, but not at 9-3
- Indiana is a lock at 10-2, but if they lose a 3rd game they are done
- USC has a good shot if they win 2 of 3 vs ND, Michigan, Oregon
- Michigan has an outside shot at 10-2
- Illinois has an outside shot even though they are mediocre due to schedule

Washington, Nebraska, Maryland, Michigan St could play their way in but not likely at all

ACC
Miami (4-0, 0-0)
- @ Florida St, Louisville, Stanford, @ SMU, Syracuse, NC State, @ Virginia Tech, @ Pittsburgh
Georgia Tech (5-0, 2-0) - Virginia Tech, @ Duke, Syracuse, @ NC State, @ Boston College, Pittsburgh, Georgia
Florida St (3-1, 0-1) - Miami, Pittsburgh, @ Stanford, Wake Forest, @ Clemson, Virginia Tech, @ NC State, @ Florida
Louisville (4-0, 1-0) - Virginia, @ Miami, Boston College, @ Virginia Tech, California, Clemson, @ SMU, Kentucky
Virginia (4-1, 2-0) - @ Louisville, Washington St, @ UNC, @ California, Wake Forest, @ Duke, Virginia

Due to the uneven ACC schedule, there are several teams (even California and Duke) who have a shot at the title game; however the ACC has a small chance of getting two teams in the playoffs

- Miami/FSU winner may be a lock to the ACC title game, if either lose 2 games they are putting themselves close to being out
- Ga Tech has the schedule to make the ACC title game, 10-2 may get them in the playoffs, esp if win is vs UGA
- UL/UVA/Duke/Cal etc only make it with ACC title win

Big XII
Arizona St (4-1, 2-0) -
@ Utah, Texas Tech, Houston, @ Iowa St, WVU, @ Colorado, Arizona
Texas Tech (4-0, 1-0) - @ Houston, Kansas, @ Arizona St, Oklahoma St, @ Kansas St, BYU, UCF, @ WVU
Iowa State (5-0, 2-0) - @ Cincinnati, @ Colorado, BYU, Arizona St, @ TCU, Kansas, @ Oklahoma St
BYU (4-0, 1-0) - WVU, @ Arizona, Utah, @ Iowa St, @ Texas Tech, TCU, @ Cincinnati, UCF
Houston (4-0, 1-0) - Texas Tech, @ Oklahoma St, Arizona, @ Arizona St, WVU, @UCF, TCU, @ Baylor
Utah (4-1, 1-1) - Arizona St, @ BYU, Colorado, Cincinnati, @ Baylor, Kansas St, @ Kansas

Really, just like the ACC, it doesn't matter who wins this average midmajor conference; they are only getting one team in unless there are two undefeated teams in the title game, which is highly unlikely:
- Tx Tech, Iowa St, Arizona St, Utah, BYU etc are all about the same so no real advantage at this point, whoever wins road games gets to the title game


Everyone Else (The Undeserving)
Notre Dame (2-2) - Boise St, NC State, USC, @ Boston College, Navy, @ Pittsburgh, Syracuse, @ Stanford

UNLV (4-0, 0-0) - @ Wyoming, Air Force, @ Boise St, New Mexico, @ Colorado St, Utah St, Hawaii, @ Nevada

Navy (4-0, 3-0) - Air Force, @ Temple, FAU, @ North Texas, @ Notre Dame, USF, @ Memphis, Army
Tulane (4-1, 1-0) - East Carolina, Army, @ UTSA, @ Memphis, FAU, at Temple, Charlotte
North Texas (5-0, 1-0) - USF, UTSA, @ Charlotte, Navy, @ UAB, @ Rice, Temple
Memphis (5-0, 1-0) - Tulsa, @ UAB, USF, @ Rice, Tulane, @ East Carolina, Navy

- Notre Dame MIGHT get in at 10-2, but it's not a given; but any more losses and they are done; I don't see them winning out even with their weak schedule
- UNLV has a shot if they go undefeated, but it still might not be enough schedule wise to grab the G5 spot over the AAC champ
- The AAC Champ will go pretty much as long as they are 11-2 are better (any of the four teams could win it, they are all basically the same garbage at this point)




PLAYOFF PREDICTIONS

First Round

(9) Ole Miss vs. (8) Texas Tech
(12) Tulane vs. (5) Penn State
(11) LSU vs. (6) Texas
(10) Indiana vs. (7) Tennessee

2nd Round
Ole Miss vs. (1) Oregon (Rose Bowl)
Penn State vs. (4) Ohio State (Cotton Bowl)
Texas vs. (3) Miami (Orange Bowl)
Tennessee vs. (2) Georgia (Sugar Bowl)


Final 4
Oregon vs. Ohio State (Fiesta Bowl)
Tennessee vs. Miami (Peach Bowl)

NC - Tennessee vs. Oregon (Miami)
 
#2
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I would love to see Tennessee go 11-1 (it is doubtful) to make Atlanta. My dad is a ticket holder for Atlanta and it has been a long time since Tennessee has been there. I was at the 1997, 1998, and 2004 games. (I can't remember why I missed 2001 but I had final exams in 2007 from grad school).
 
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I would love to see Tennessee go 11-1 (it is doubtful) to make Atlanta. My dad is a ticket holder for Atlanta and it has been a long time since Tennessee has been there. I was at the 1997, 1998, and 2004 games. (I can't remember why I missed 2001 but I had final exams in 2007 from grad school).
I want a playoff home game so bad...Neyland in December hosting a Big Ten, big XII or Notre Dame would be amazing
 
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I think you will get your wish sooner than you think (perhaps even this year). Now my Atlanta dream might be a little tougher to achieve...
BTW for those inquiring about the SEC title tiebreakers if multiple teams are 6-2 in conference:


The SEC football tiebreaker process, introduced after divisional changes, prioritizes several factors in order to determine which teams advance to the SEC Championship game:
  1. Head-to-head competition: among the tied teams.
  2. Record against common conference opponents .
  3. Record versus the highest-ranked common conference opponent: within the tied group.
  4. Cumulative conference winning percentage of all conference opponents: for each team.
  5. Capped relative total scoring margin: against all conference opponents.
  6. A random draw: of the tied teams as a last resort.
Important Considerations
  • Five-or-Six-Way Tie:
    Tiebreakers 1 and 2 (head-to-head and common opponents) may not apply in a five- or six-way tie for the top spot
 
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Also if you are wondering who to cheer for to help our playoff chances this week:

Kentucky over Georgia
Florida over Texas
Vanderbilt over Alabama
Kent St over Oklahoma
UCLA over Penn St
Minnesota over Ohio St
Purdue over Illinois
Wisconsin over Michigan
Miami over Florida St
Virginia over Louisville
Houston over Texas Tech
Cincinnati over Iowa St
WVU over BYU
Colorado over TCU
Boise St over Notre Dame
 
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#8
Also if you are wondering who to cheer for to help our playoff chances this week:

Kentucky over Georgia
Florida over Texas
Vanderbilt over Alabama
Kent St over Oklahoma
UCLA over Penn St
Minnesota over Ohio St
Purdue over Illinois
Wisconsin over Michigan
Miami over Florida St
Virginia over Louisville
Houston over Texas Tech
Cincinnati over Iowa St
WVU over BYU
Colorado over TCU
Boise St over Notre Dame
And Mississippi State over Texas A&M
 
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#11
Also if you are wondering who to cheer for to help our playoff chances this week:

Kentucky over Georgia
Florida over Texas
Vanderbilt over Alabama
Kent St over Oklahoma
UCLA over Penn St
Minnesota over Ohio St
Purdue over Illinois
Wisconsin over Michigan
Miami over Florida St
Virginia over Louisville
Houston over Texas Tech
Cincinnati over Iowa St
WVU over BYU
Colorado over TCU
Boise St over Notre Dame
Go Kent St!

And, are we actually pulling for Nico's team? šŸ˜‚
 
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Of the teams who have a realistic shot at making the playoff (And no, Vanderbilt has absolutely no shot, so don't be ridiculous with that crap)

SEC
Georgia (3-1,1-1) -
Kentucky, @ Auburn, Ole Miss, Florida, @ Mississippi St, Texas, Charlotte, @ Georgia Tech
Ole Miss (5-0, 3-0) - Washington St, @ Georgia, @ Oklahoma, South Carolina, The Citadel, Florida, @ Mississippi St
Texas (3-1, 0-0) - @ Florida, Oklahoma, @ Kentucky, @ Mississippi St, Vanderbilt, @ Georgia, Arkansas, Texas A&M
Tennessee (4-1, 1-1) - Arkansas, @ Alabama, @ Kentucky, Oklahoma, New Mexico St, @ Florida, Vanderbilt
Oklahoma (4-0, 1-1) - Kent State, Texas, @ South Carolina, Ole Miss, @ Tennessee, @ Alabama, Mizzou, LSU
LSU (4-1, 1-1) - South Carolina, @ Vanderbilt, Texas A&M, @ Alabama, Arkansas, Western Kentucky, @ Oklahoma
Texas A&M (4-0, 1-0) - Florida, @ Arkansas, @ LSU, @ Mizzou, South Carolina, Samford, @ Texas
Alabama (3-1, 1-0) - Vanderbilt, @ Mizzou, Tennessee, @ South Carolina, LSU, Oklahoma, E. Illinois, @ Auburn
Mizzou (5-0, 1-0) - Alabama, @ Auburn, @ Vanderbilt, Texas A&M, Mississippi St, @ Oklahoma, @ Arkansas

Anyone goes 11-1, they are guaranteed obviously
Georgia, Ole Miss, Texas, Tennessee, Oklahoma, LSU and Alabama are the teams that likely get in the playoffs with 10-2 records (obviously only 4 of these teams can get that since they play each other). 2 of these teams also play for the SEC title.

- Georgia outside of two upset losses is a lock
- Ole Miss has two difficult road games and if they don't get beat anywhere else they are a lock
- Texas loses two SEC games, they are out of the playoffs unless they win the SEC title
- Tennessee goes 6-1 with a loss to Bama or Oklahoma, they are in; if they go undefeated they play in the SEC title
- Oklahoma has a tough schedule unlikely to win Texas, Ole Miss, UT, Bama, Mizzou, LSU - they are likely out
- LSU loses two games they are out
- Texas A&M plays three tough road games in row and Texas at end, they aren't making it
- Mizzou has had an easy schedule but likely loses 3 games

Big Ten
Oregon (5-0, 2-0) - Indiana, @ Rutgers, Wisconsin, @ Iowa, Minnesota, USC, @ Washington
Ohio St (4-0, 1-0) - Minnesota, @ Illinois, @ Wisconsin, Penn St, @ Purdue, UCLA, Rutgers, @ Michigan
Indiana (5-0, 2-0) - @ Oregon, Michigan St, UCLA, @ Maryland, @ Penn St, Wisconsin, @ Purdue
Penn St (3-1, 0-1) - @ UCLA, Northwestern, @ Iowa, @ Ohio St, Indiana, @ Michigan St, Nebraska, @ Rutgers
USC (4-1, 2-1) - Michigan, @ Notre Dame, @ Nebraska, Northwestern, Iowa, @ Oregon, UCLA
Michigan (3-1, 1-0) - Wisconsin, @ USC, Washington, @ Michigan St, Purdue, @ Northwestern, @ Maryland, Ohio St
Illinois (4-1, 1-1) - @ Purdue, Ohio St, @ Washington, Rutgers, Maryland, @ Wisconsin, Northwestern

- Oregon and Ohio St are locks
- Penn St at 10-2 is a lock, but not at 9-3
- Indiana is a lock at 10-2, but if they lose a 3rd game they are done
- USC has a good shot if they win 2 of 3 vs ND, Michigan, Oregon
- Michigan has an outside shot at 10-2
- Illinois has an outside shot even though they are mediocre due to schedule

Washington, Nebraska, Maryland, Michigan St could play their way in but not likely at all

ACC
Miami (4-0, 0-0)
- @ Florida St, Louisville, Stanford, @ SMU, Syracuse, NC State, @ Virginia Tech, @ Pittsburgh
Georgia Tech (5-0, 2-0) - Virginia Tech, @ Duke, Syracuse, @ NC State, @ Boston College, Pittsburgh, Georgia
Florida St (3-1, 0-1) - Miami, Pittsburgh, @ Stanford, Wake Forest, @ Clemson, Virginia Tech, @ NC State, @ Florida
Louisville (4-0, 1-0) - Virginia, @ Miami, Boston College, @ Virginia Tech, California, Clemson, @ SMU, Kentucky
Virginia (4-1, 2-0) - @ Louisville, Washington St, @ UNC, @ California, Wake Forest, @ Duke, Virginia

Due to the uneven ACC schedule, there are several teams (even California and Duke) who have a shot at the title game; however the ACC has a small chance of getting two teams in the playoffs

- Miami/FSU winner may be a lock to the ACC title game, if either lose 2 games they are putting themselves close to being out
- Ga Tech has the schedule to make the ACC title game, 10-2 may get them in the playoffs, esp if win is vs UGA
- UL/UVA/Duke/Cal etc only make it with ACC title win

Big XII
Arizona St (4-1, 2-0) -
@ Utah, Texas Tech, Houston, @ Iowa St, WVU, @ Colorado, Arizona
Texas Tech (4-0, 1-0) - @ Houston, Kansas, @ Arizona St, Oklahoma St, @ Kansas St, BYU, UCF, @ WVU
Iowa State (5-0, 2-0) - @ Cincinnati, @ Colorado, BYU, Arizona St, @ TCU, Kansas, @ Oklahoma St
BYU (4-0, 1-0) - WVU, @ Arizona, Utah, @ Iowa St, @ Texas Tech, TCU, @ Cincinnati, UCF
Houston (4-0, 1-0) - Texas Tech, @ Oklahoma St, Arizona, @ Arizona St, WVU, @UCF, TCU, @ Baylor
Utah (4-1, 1-1) - Arizona St, @ BYU, Colorado, Cincinnati, @ Baylor, Kansas St, @ Kansas

Really, just like the ACC, it doesn't matter who wins this average midmajor conference; they are only getting one team in unless there are two undefeated teams in the title game, which is highly unlikely:
- Tx Tech, Iowa St, Arizona St, Utah, BYU etc are all about the same so no real advantage at this point, whoever wins road games gets to the title game


Everyone Else (The Undeserving)
Notre Dame (2-2) - Boise St, NC State, USC, @ Boston College, Navy, @ Pittsburgh, Syracuse, @ Stanford

UNLV (4-0, 0-0) - @ Wyoming, Air Force, @ Boise St, New Mexico, @ Colorado St, Utah St, Hawaii, @ Nevada

Navy (4-0, 3-0) - Air Force, @ Temple, FAU, @ North Texas, @ Notre Dame, USF, @ Memphis, Army
Tulane (4-1, 1-0) - East Carolina, Army, @ UTSA, @ Memphis, FAU, at Temple, Charlotte
North Texas (5-0, 1-0) - USF, UTSA, @ Charlotte, Navy, @ UAB, @ Rice, Temple
Memphis (5-0, 1-0) - Tulsa, @ UAB, USF, @ Rice, Tulane, @ East Carolina, Navy

- Notre Dame MIGHT get in at 10-2, but it's not a given; but any more losses and they are done; I don't see them winning out even with their weak schedule
- UNLV has a shot if they go undefeated, but it still might not be enough schedule wise to grab the G5 spot over the AAC champ
- The AAC Champ will go pretty much as long as they are 11-2 are better (any of the four teams could win it, they are all basically the same garbage at this point)




PLAYOFF PREDICTIONS

First Round

(9) Ole Miss vs. (8) Texas Tech
(12) Tulane vs. (5) Penn State
(11) LSU vs. (6) Texas
(10) Indiana vs. (7) Tennessee

2nd Round
Ole Miss vs. (1) Oregon (Rose Bowl)
Penn State vs. (4) Ohio State (Cotton Bowl)
Texas vs. (3) Miami (Orange Bowl)
Tennessee vs. (2) Georgia (Sugar Bowl)

Final 4
Oregon vs. Ohio State (Fiesta Bowl)
Tennessee vs. Miami (Peach Bowl)

NC - Tennessee vs. Oregon (Miami)
Nice write up. There is a lot of football left but it’s fun for fans to debate. This is why college football is superior to NFL imo and other sports.

I think we lose three (BVS) but hoping 10-2 @ worse. I think it’s a 70% chance of dropping one more game.

Big 10 drives me crazy w/ their soft schedules. I argue w my brother how easy the schedule is for his Buckeyes.

Great team, great coaching staff, and great program- loaded w/talent. But Wisconsin, Purdue, Iowa, Mich State, etc are down while The SEC cannibalizes one another every week. The worst team is KY and Arkansas - and both may win 6. Vandy is a top 20 team. Ms state should be ranked imo.

I Hope TN makes the playoffs as we can beat anyone imo IF our D can get going. Big if, but possible if McCoy returns.

The playoff game @ Ohio state was electric- so much until 3rd quarter when state pulled away.

God willing, I will attend the playoff game (Christmas gift to myself and son), even if it’s Oregon. I hope it’s @ Neyland as the atmosphere will be 2nd to none!!

Thanks for the write up and -

Go Vols!
 

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I would love to see Tennessee go 11-1 (it is doubtful) to make Atlanta. My dad is a ticket holder for Atlanta and it has been a long time since Tennessee has been there. I was at the 1997, 1998, and 2004 games. (I can't remember why I missed 2001 but I had final exams in 2007 from grad school).
07 - didn’t miss much. I was there in 01 and 07. I’m 0-2 at sec title games.


LSU fans were ticked b/c they had tow losses. And, the rumor all day was Miles was leaving for Michigan. Miles had a press conference before the game to say he was NOT leaving. Then a couple teams lost giving LSU opportunity to back in their way to BCS championship game. It was a Wild day.
 
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#22
It’s still way too early. One thing for sure w tiebreakers is we prob don’t hold the right cards w out lighter sec slate compared to others…so we just need to take care of business. Which I think we can do.
 
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