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I wanted to put my two cents in here because it's a trend I've noticed throughout college football. it may have been the case before now, but is so now more than ever.

As the game has developed a feel that is more professional than collegiate, it is taking on a commonality with the pro game.

There are those with a next level QB and those without. And some teams, some coaches, may be an exception to the rule......but......

Every fan base that is grumbling today, every place where someone has been fired, the QB is below average. They may have been a 5* recruit, they may some expert claiming they are a first round draft pick, they may have a famous last name, but the bottom line is they aren't getting it done.

Now, there are a couple of cases where it is coaching. Kiffin seems like he can take anyone and at least make the serviceable. He made a big difference for Crompton in 2009 compared to 2008. But, he was still Crompton.

And the other commonality is that these are the dudes bringing in the big money.

Talking to someone, there is where the fight is in recruiting with the portal. A lot of coaches do not want to gamble on the high school kid anymore, particularly at this position.
 
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We all knew coming into the season Joey was a gambler and gunslinger. The thought was something like four TD’s to every interception and we were good.
 
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I get frustrated with the Aguilar criticism because it is very UNFAIR. The issue is that Tennessee's line was not holding up and we can't run the ball so all the pressure was on Aguilar to make plays. He imploded (notably in the first half). Despite that, he made some plays.

We need a better running game. It is a trend with poor offensive play across the board. Even with a good QB, teams can't win if they don't have an honest running game.

The units that were great in 2024 let Tennessee down in 2025 (running game and defense).

Issue is that the coaches didn't properly prepare these backups to play in 2025.
 
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Cartervol said:
Just like the NFL but it shouldn't be. I miss the old days when college football was college football. It really mirrors the NFL anymore. Flashy offense with token defense.
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The 1985 ruling that open the door to TV rights started it, it just took 20-30+ years to get to this point. I also think Saban and his run at Alabama played a part in destroying the sport. Saban got paid the big bucks and it became more about money than ever to win. Notice the realignment stuff started as a result of the Saban run and need for some of the teams in the less successful power leagues to make more $$$ to be competitive.
 
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volbound1700 said:
The 1985 ruling that open the door to TV rights started it, it just took 20-30+ years to get to this point. I also think Saban and his run at Alabama played a part in destroying the sport. Saban got paid the big bucks and it became more about money than ever to win. Notice the realignment stuff started as a result of the Saban run and need for some of the teams in the less successful power leagues to make more $$$ to be competitive.
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TV money changed it for the worse. Now it's a race to outspend everyone or get left behind..
 
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Voltopia said:
Well pardon me young man and excuse the hell out of my damn French but - did you just call Joey Aguilar below average?
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Below average is too strong, but I think a lot of his performance is influenced by the schedule. As others put in this thread, he turns the ball over. And they aren't just turnovers. they are really, really bad turnovers
 
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Cartervol said:
TV money changed it for the worse. Now it's race to outspend everyone or get left behind..
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That and the Saban/Alabama run did play a part in the collapse of the sport IMO. The 2010s were some of the worse CFB that I have seen. Alabama scatted through the season winning most games by 3-4 TDs. That was ugly to watch.

I think it encouraged a lot of these other schools to get more desperate and take drastic actions (like OU and Texas bailing on Big12).

The decline of Football on the West Coast hasn't helped either. Those teams could not get fans which caused programs like USC and UCLA to pursue B1G membership.

The entire sport is in flux. I do think it could be in a better position once the realignment and NIL dust settles but it isn't going back and frankly, it really hasn't been that great for some time. As rough as it seems now, I would definitely take NIL era over the 2010-2020 era.
 
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volbound1700 said:
That and the Saban/Alabama run did play a part in the collapse of the sport IMO. The 2010s were some of the worse CFB that I have seen. Alabama scatted through the season winning most games by 3-4 TDs. That was ugly to watch.

I think it encouraged a lot of these other schools to get more desperate and take drastic actions (like OU and Texas bailing on Big12).

The decline of Football on the West Coast hasn't helped either. Those teams could not get fans which caused programs like USC and UCLA to pursue B1G membership.

The entire sport is in flux. I do think it could be in a better position once the realignment and NIL dust settles but it isn't going back and frankly, it really hasn't been that great for some time. As rough as it seems now, I would definitely take NIL era over the 2010-2020 era.
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Then the little weasel got out when he couldn't pay guys 50k to ride pine so he could be 3 deep in 5 star players. It's easy to look like a football god when you bought all the best players. I have zero respect for him or the Bama program as a whole. Worst cheaters in football. That was a marriage made in h--l..
 
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99gator said:
I wanted to put my two cents in here because it's a trend I've noticed throughout college football. it may have been the case before now, but is so now more than ever.

As the game has developed a feel that is more professional than collegiate, it is taking on a commonality with the pro game.

There are those with a next level QB and those without. And some teams, some coaches, may be an exception to the rule......but......

Every fan base that is grumbling today, every place where someone has been fired, the QB is below average. They may have been a 5* recruit, they may some expert claiming they are a first round draft pick, they may have a famous last name, but the bottom line is they aren't getting it done.

Now, there are a couple of cases where it is coaching. Kiffin seems like he can take anyone and at least make the serviceable. He made a big difference for Crompton in 2009 compared to 2008. But, he was still Crompton.

And the other commonality is that these are the dudes bringing in the big money.

Talking to someone, there is where the fight is in recruiting with the portal. A lot of coaches do not want to gamble on the high school kid anymore, particularly at this position.
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Yeah and when you get deep into the season you start to see impact of transfer portal on depth. We were known to be thin at DB coming into spring ball…didn’t really address it and we have paid for it w further injuries. There are plenty of flaws in this team and even teams like uga, but if we had strong DBs we may only have one loss. Also it does get to coaching. Take uga as mentioned…they are not the uga of old, but they just grind…they get behind, lock in, and make plays, contrary to doing things which lose football games like Vols are doing this year.
 
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volbound1700 said:
The 1985 ruling that open the door to TV rights started it, it just took 20-30+ years to get to this point. I also think Saban and his run at Alabama played a part in destroying the sport. Saban got paid the big bucks and it became more about money than ever to win. Notice the realignment stuff started as a result of the Saban run and need for some of the teams in the less successful power leagues to make more $$$ to be competitive.
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Everyone whines about NIL and players getting paid as ruining college football....nope. That was the result everyone knew was coming miles away because college football became big business and because it was a rather slow boil nobody complained until something happened that was right in their face.

When college football (and basketball to a lesser extent) became big business is when it started. Ridiculous TV contracts, conference expansion, coaches getting paid millions, ridiculous buyouts, conference expansion/poaching, conferences getting their own networks, adding regular season games, adding conference championship games, adding 500 bowl games.....that's how we got to where we are and there is no putting the toothpaste back in the tube.

Having said all that, I am glad we finally got a proper playoff and I enjoy the parity becaues I got sick of the same freakin Alabama team winning it almost every year. The transfer and NIL stuff needs regulation but I would gladly trade it for what we used to have. I have no idea why people were satisifed with going 8-3 and playing in a Liberty Bowl in years past like it was some great achievement. College football's "postseason" was always idiotic to me before the BCS, which wasn't the best but at least it was a start.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I get frustrated with the Aguilar criticism because it is very UNFAIR. The issue is that Tennessee's line was not holding up and we can't run the ball so all the pressure was on Aguilar to make plays. He imploded (notably in the first half). Despite that, he made some plays.

We need a better running game. It is a trend with poor offensive play across the board. Even with a good QB, teams can't win if they don't have an honest running game.

The units that were great in 2024 let Tennessee down in 2025 (running game and defense).

Issue is that the coaches didn't properly prepare these backups to play in 2025.
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Exactly 💯. If not for Joey Aguilar, this team doesn't win 6 games
 
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99gator said:
I wanted to put my two cents in here because it's a trend I've noticed throughout college football. it may have been the case before now, but is so now more than ever.

As the game has developed a feel that is more professional than collegiate, it is taking on a commonality with the pro game.

There are those with a next level QB and those without. And some teams, some coaches, may be an exception to the rule......but......

Every fan base that is grumbling today, every place where someone has been fired, the QB is below average. They may have been a 5* recruit, they may some expert claiming they are a first round draft pick, they may have a famous last name, but the bottom line is they aren't getting it done.

Now, there are a couple of cases where it is coaching. Kiffin seems like he can take anyone and at least make the serviceable. He made a big difference for Crompton in 2009 compared to 2008. But, he was still Crompton.

And the other commonality is that these are the dudes bringing in the big money.

Talking to someone, there is where the fight is in recruiting with the portal. A lot of coaches do not want to gamble on the high school kid anymore, particularly at this position.
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I get what you’re saying, and you said it perfectly about Kiffin! He can flat out move the needle between dud and stud. People can love him or hate him, but if I was a coach, I’d be trying to figure out what he does to make the QB the best they can be. That’s usually the difference in a decent team and a good team.
 
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