What Kentucky fans are thinking about Pearl's possible departure..

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There is no news article to this, no twitter feed, nothing like that. Just a Kentucky fan, who lives in Kentucky, around other Kentucky fans. I will tell you right now that this is making their day. They are loving every second of it. Before you get mad and bash me, let me get to where I am going with this. They are not rejoicing to kick you while you are down. They are rejoicing because whether we admit it or not (and we never will), Bruce Pearl was a threat to UK. There. I said it. They want Pearl out of the SEC because he was slowly starting to get UK level recruits and creating UK caliber teams. That scared the crap out of us.

Feelings and biases aside. He is/was great for the SEC. He made it more competitive, gave it an energy that was much needed, and re-sparked some rivalries. I really wish he would have thought things through a little more before he made some of the choices he made. If he is given the opportunity to stay, I hope that he learns from this, grows, and moves on. If he leaves, I wish him the best and I hope that UT will find a coach who will bring that same intensity to not only the UT program but to the SEC as well. Us Kentuckians love a good challenge. lol Seriously though, whatever happens...good luck you'all.
 
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His 4-9 record versus Kentucky shows the competitiveness. And most of those wins were against ol' Billy Clyde.
 
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Lets not go there. I try to block that period of UK basketball out of my mind. It's like when something so traumatic happens your mind blocks it out for you. lol
 
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What were our five previous coaches records against UK? Can't wait to see next year's record against their #1 recruiting class.
 
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If Kentucky doesn't win a championship next year. They never will. Rumor has it that T. Jones will be the only one leaving. Brandon Knight can have a degree if he stays one more year due to dual credit courses taken in high school. With a 4.3 gpa. I see him staying. It is likely Lamb, Miller, and Liggins will stay as well as Lamb needs more improvement and Liggins and Millier aren't draft ready yet. Add 3 of the top 5 players in the country coming in (2 much needed big men), plus the 22 player. They will be tough. They will FINALLY have that balance of freshman talent plus experience that everybody says is necessary to win a championship. So if they don't do it next year. It will never happen under Cal.
 
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Ray Mears was 15-15 versus Kentucky.

That's the only one I can find besides the almighty Buzz's record of 1-8.
 
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lylsmorr said:
His 4-9 record versus Kentucky shows the competitiveness. And most of those wins were against ol' Billy Clyde.
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His conference record of 65-31 vs. Kentucky's of 62-34 over the same period really does show the competitiveness.

It was an even wider margin before this year's UT fizzle.
 
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Devoe was 11-14 vs KY.
Green was 3-5.
Wade Houston was 3-8.

Pearl is on Wade Houston's level vs. KY.
 
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StepCross said:
His conference record of 65-31 vs. Kentucky's of 62-34 over the same period really does show the competitiveness.

It was an even wider margin before this year's UT fizzle.
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It certainly didn't hurt that UK was having down years the majority of that time frame.
 
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Not a bad point. I'm sorry it came down to this because I agree with you but Pearl made his own bed and now he has to lie in it.
 
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Um yes....Pearl's 4-9 record against UK and 1 win in the past 7 games really had UK shaking in their boots.

Please, Pearl sucked against Kentucky.
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atxvol2010 said:
What were our five previous coaches records against UK? Can't wait to see next year's record against their #1 recruiting class.
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If Kentucky doesn't win a championship next year. They never will. Rumor has it that T. Jones will be the only one leaving. Brandon Knight can have a degree if he stays one more year due to dual credit courses taken in high school. With a 4.3 gpa. I see him staying. It is likely Lamb, Miller, and Liggins will stay as well as Lamb needs more improvement and Liggins and Millier aren't draft ready yet. Add 3 of the top 5 players in the country coming in (2 much needed big men), plus the 22 player. They will be tough. They will FINALLY have that balance of freshman talent plus experience that everybody says is necessary to win a championship. So if they don't do it next year. It will never happen under Cal.
 
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LawVol13 said:
It certainly didn't hurt that UK was having down years the majority of that time frame.
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In 5 of the 6 years, Kentucky had winning conference records. The other was an 8-8 record. One was a 14-2.

Tennessee had a down year in there, too (8-8).

The point was that Pearl made Tennessee competitive with Kentucky. I'd agree with that, Pearl's confusing inability to beat BCG notwithstanding.
 
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SportsFreak said:
If Kentucky doesn't win a championship next year. They never will. Rumor has it that T. Jones will be the only one leaving. Brandon Knight can have a degree if he stays one more year due to dual credit courses taken in high school. With a 4.3 gpa. I see him staying. It is likely Lamb, Miller, and Liggins will stay as well as Lamb needs more improvement and Liggins and Millier aren't draft ready yet. Add 3 of the top 5 players in the country coming in (2 much needed big men), plus the 22 player. They will be tough. They will FINALLY have that balance of freshman talent plus experience that everybody says is necessary to win a championship. So if they don't do it next year. It will never happen under Cal.
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KY has 4 of the top 15 freshmen in the nation coming in next year. I wouldn't fret too much.
 
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StepCross said:
In 5 of the 6 years, Kentucky had winning conference records. The other was an 8-8 record. One was a 14-2.

Tennessee had a down year in there, too (8-8).

The point was that Pearl made Tennessee competitive with Kentucky. I'd agree with that, Pearl's confusing inability to beat BCG notwithstanding.
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My point exactly! Not being cocky, just honest with this....but...with the exception of youall, vandy, and florida in the 06-07 years, there hasn't been much competition for us in the modern era of the sec. I fully aware that we have had our down years too though. But just being honest, historically speaking, we have dominated the conference. But youall make it interesting with Pearl. I hate it, but I love it!
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lylsmorr said:
KY has 4 of the top 15 freshmen in the nation coming in next year. I wouldn't fret too much.
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Agreed. But for once it is looking like we are going to return some players in addition to those freshman (lamb, knight, miller, and liggins), giving us a more talent/experience balance. If we didn't return any of those players, I would still be worried because we are now realizing you can't win championships with a freshman dominated team. Gotta have that experience to mix in with it! Hopefully next year we will have both.
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Good luck next year should be fun for your team. You better hope UNC loses Barnes or Henson because I think they will be preseason #1 if those guys return. I think it's a good chance at least one of those guys goes pro.
 
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Dunno what your recruiting class looks like for next year but I think if they are going to "allow Pearl to resign" I think they need to do it as soon as their tournament run is over. Not only will that give the new coach more time to try to hang on to their current recruits; but, it will let recruits who haven't committed yet see who will be there next year. Recruits aren't gonna come if they don't know who will be coaching next year!
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SportsFreak said:
If Kentucky doesn't win a championship next year. They never will. Rumor has it that T. Jones will be the only one leaving. Brandon Knight can have a degree if he stays one more year due to dual credit courses taken in high school. With a 4.3 gpa. I see him staying. It is likely Lamb, Miller, and Liggins will stay as well as Lamb needs more improvement and Liggins and Millier aren't draft ready yet. Add 3 of the top 5 players in the country coming in (2 much needed big men), plus the 22 player. They will be tough. They will FINALLY have that balance of freshman talent plus experience that everybody says is necessary to win a championship. So if they don't do it next year. It will never happen under Cal.
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That's exactly how I see it next year for UK. This will be Cal's best team since the 07-08 Memphis Tigers team. That team was loaded. I remember Cal saying last year that his team was not as good as the 07-08 Memphis team. You are right that this is Cal's best chance he'll ever have.
 
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SportsFreak said:
If Kentucky doesn't win a championship next year. They never will. Rumor has it that T. Jones will be the only one leaving. Brandon Knight can have a degree if he stays one more year due to dual credit courses taken in high school. With a 4.3 gpa. I see him staying. It is likely Lamb, Miller, and Liggins will stay as well as Lamb needs more improvement and Liggins and Millier aren't draft ready yet. Add 3 of the top 5 players in the country coming in (2 much needed big men), plus the 22 player. They will be tough. They will FINALLY have that balance of freshman talent plus experience that everybody says is necessary to win a championship. So if they don't do it next year. It will never happen under Cal.
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NEVER? That's pretty definitive. I'm surprised as a Kentucky fan how little faith you have in Cal. If next year is Cal's last chance for a championship at Kentucky, then that necessarily means that this will be Cal's last great recruiting class. What is that has lead you to believe that the well will run dry after this season at Kentucky? The media attention that Kentucky gets on their NCAA run this year? How about the fact that it's Kentucky, which is basically the Notre Dame of basketball (minus the academic hang-ups), and kids will always want to go there? The firing of Bruce Pearl? How about the fact that Cal is the best recruiter in basketball and was able to consistently recruit top 10 classes at MEMPHIS? Stop and think about that, AT MEMPHIS. If you can recruit a championship team to Memphis, you can recruit them anywhere. Believe me, I'm from Memphis, I know - it's a miserable town by and large.

Everyone in Memphis said Memphis's last great chance for a competitive team left with DaWan Wagner. They didn't know that Dorsey, Dozier, Douglas-Roberts, and D. Rose were right around the corner. Had Cal stayed at Memphis, we would have reloaded right away and been right back in the hunt -- take that same concept and super-size it for Kentucky. Under Cal, Kentucky will reload every year with approximately 1/4 of the top 20 recruits heading his way. Like him or not, there's no question he can coach and every kid in America wants to be featured in his dribble-drive offense in front of those who call themselves the best/most rabid basketball fans in America (as Cal said yesterday at his presser, "all of Kentucky inhales and exhales with each shot and each possession").

I see Cal being WILDLY successful at Kentucky, including at least one national championship. But, hey, I'm biased. I'm from Memphis.
 
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