06 Vols special teams

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dan4vols

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I'm probably not as informed on this subject as many of you. Where has this aspect of rebuilding and sharpening got to?...Will we be better and what coach will run this aspect?
 
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(dan4vols @ Apr 15 said:
I'm probably not as informed on this subject as many of you. Where has this aspect of rebuilding and sharpening got to?...Will we be better and what coach will run this aspect?
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I heard it was going to be by comittee again...... :banghead:
 
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From what I've heard, we are looking better, especially the punt blocking area(which is coached by Chavis).
 
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While we were in a long over due coaching search at last seasons end, did anyone consider a ST Coach from VT?
They seem to consistently rank in the elite ST Units of the NCAA.


Coaching a unit "by committee" means coaching a unit w/o "any" coaching accountability.
Haven't we all seen enough of that with just WHO was accountable for our regressive offense the last several years?

Was the UT Offensive freefall due to:
PF not trusting RS?
RS being held down by PF?
Was it RS solely being incompetent?
Was PF too hard headed to allow RS to coach?
Or could one could argue neither knew what to do w all they had?
Or possibly neither were savvy enough to make some sorely needed scheme changes?

I know the above mentioned points may not directly tie into the thread question...or do they?
In my opinion, every unit needs to have ONE Coach that's responsible & accountable for that unit's performance.
No guess work, no free falling, no stagnation. Not no accountability.
 
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(RealVol @ Apr 15 said:
I know the above mentioned points may not directly tie into the thread question...or do they?
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No they don't. This is about Special teams.
 
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Obviously, I see your point. but if no ONE is responsible or accountable, similar to the recent free fall of offense, just WHO is responsible for their performance?

If only one Coach is responsible isn't that a sure way to know?

Again, I wonder why Fulmer didn't look at a possible candidate from VT's program?
 
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(RealVol @ Apr 15 said:
Obviously, I see your point. but if no ONE is responsible or accountable, similar to the recent free fall of offense, just WHO is responsible for their performance?

If only one Coach is responsible isn't that a sure way to know?

Again, I wonder why Fulmer didn't look at a possible candidate from VT's program?
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As I understand it head coach Frank Beamer coaches all special teams, he's said he feels its more important than offense or defense as it causes huge turnarounds in field position and momentum. I tend to agree.
 
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(RealVol @ Apr 15 said:
Coaching a unit "by committee" means coaching a unit w/o "any" coaching accountability....

In my opinion, every unit needs to have ONE Coach that's responsible & accountable for that unit's performance.
No guess work, no free falling, no stagnation. Not no accountability.
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I agree with your point, but the way I see it, "Special Teams" isn't really a unit like the offense or defense. The feild goal team has nothing, really, to do with the punt return team, other than the fact that they might share a few players (they might not.) I don't see a real problem with separating them under different coaches, so long as the PR coach (Chavis was mentioned above) is accountable for the PR team, and whoever gets FG is accountable for our performance on FGs.

"By committee" is a little misleading when it comes down to the special teams, in my opinion.
 
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i say chavis should get punt return/block and field goal block

trooper should get kick off and kick return

and anyone else (maybe rooper?) get fieldgoals and punts
 
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(RealVol @ Apr 15 said:
Obviously, I see your point. but if no ONE is responsible or accountable, similar to the recent free fall of offense, just WHO is responsible for their performance?

If only one Coach is responsible isn't that a sure way to know?

Again, I wonder why Fulmer didn't look at a possible candidate from VT's program?
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Didn't they bring in Jason Whitten's brother who went to VT and was a grad assistant that worked with Beamer on special teams. But then again why we would want to use Beamer, he started out at Murray State and we learned during the coaching search that those guys at the small schools don't know anything. Right?
 
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The problem with brining in a dedicated special teams coach is what position coach are you going to get rid of? The NCAA limits the number of coaches on staff.
 
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Like someone else said, special teams will be better this year because they can't get much worse.

 
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I know on offense and defense the players grade out on position fundamentals in practice, is this done as well on special teams?
 
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(hvwarrior58 @ Apr 15 said:
From what I've heard, we are looking better, especially the punt blocking area(which is coached by Chavis).
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yeah, and we have Asumnu blocking field goals and maybe punts. he could really help us block a few this year.
 
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I just read where Cutcliffe and Chavis are splitting time coaching the special teams, so I feel a little better about it already.
 
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agreed, I feel the same way...50%ish of the problems we had on special teams were player specific execution problems anyway. HOPEFULLY last year was a cascade failure fluke.
 
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Personally, I find it very hard not to believe Coach Cut won't have his hands full!

Hopefully Cut WILL be updating our tired offensive scheme, working with all the qb's, in particular the top 2 (I assume personally) & I won't even mention all the necessary monitoring of each individual offensive unit and "communicating" w EVERY offensive units individual Coach(s)...yeah, I'd say he'll have hours & hours to spend w ST's.

ANY additional responsibilities added to those much, much needed missions plus the absolute minimum requirements of any Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Cooridinator / QB's Coach, at an SEC fb school, I think would be QUITE limited.

Possibly to the degree of EVEN NEEDING to notice the Special Team's!
 
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GAVol hit it on the head....a lot of teams don't have a full time coach for ST. if you did, you'd have to get rid of a position coach....

schools like VA tech where the HC coaches ST, that can be done because they don't have to free up a spot on the coaches line up to do it.

SOS coached qb's, so not qb coach needed.....etc, etc. etc.....from what i've read, Chavis and Cut both are accountable for ST and thier resepctive parts....

i think it will be better, no way they let it sit still or get worse.
 
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(VolunteerHillbilly @ Apr 17 said:
Didn't Jackie Sherill coach special teams?
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I'm pretty sure he also "created" a steer during practice.
 
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Yeah, but Sherill was well dressed & taking notes.

Anyway, back to my point. I strongly feel as anemic as our offense is or at least has been, as unimpressive as our qb's looked last year, as confused as the entire o unit often looked throughout the 05 season, as "unfocused" as our wr's appear(ed), as mediocre as our o line has become, as new as this recently formed Coaching Staff is & again let's all hope he's (Cut) is intent to expand our o scheme.

I simply believe Coach Cut will have his hands full trying to improve those aspects. Just those items alone. Not to mention all the necessary "monitoring" of each offensive units progress & coaching several individual Coachs is a load!

I just don't see adding Special Teams Coach or even Shared Special Teams Coach duties being beneficial to WHY we hired Cut.

By the way, anyone know how he handled ST's while he was at Ole Miss?
 
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What Im drawing on to be optomistic is even though every individual coach on the staff has their own long laundry list is: The changes that were made in addition to the embarrassment of last year will be the castor oil that will cure fumblitis and hands of stone, as well as middle school tackling and blocking. Pride.
 
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