10 Passing TD's

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jkleno said:
That is totally pointless.
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Sarcasm? PLEASE be sarcasm.
The thread was started on premise of Worley not having SEC talent. However, in fewer games, Worley has accomplished more from a team perspective than a guy with SEC talent. There is a whole list of guys who were not SEC talent at qb that won a lot of ballgames. I guess it's more fun to beat up on the guy with a bum thumb who just beat a top 15 team though....
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Sarcasm? PLEASE be sarcasm.
The thread was started on premise of Worley not having SEC talent. However, in fewer games, Worley has accomplished more from a team perspective than a guy with SEC talent. There is a whole list of guys who were not SEC talent at qb that won a lot of ballgames. I guess it's more fun to beat up on the guy with a bum thumb who just beat a top 15 team though....
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I am a true fan of UT. I have seen some good and great QB's come by over the years. I am entitled to my opinion and I truly feel Worley is not a SEC QB. Hindsight being 20/20- maybe I should have stated he is not an "average" SEC QB.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Sarcasm? PLEASE be sarcasm.
The thread was started on premise of Worley not having SEC talent. However, in fewer games, Worley has accomplished more from a team perspective than a guy with SEC talent. There is a whole list of guys who were not SEC talent at qb that won a lot of ballgames. I guess it's more fun to beat up on the guy with a bum thumb who just beat a top 15 team though....
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Worley has beaten more quality teams than Bray. End. Of. Thread.
I do think your post is pointless. How can you compare Bray to Worley on the basis of beating South Carolina? At what point in the season did Worley hurt his thumb- you are stating it as if it occurred at the beginning of the year.
 
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jkleno said:
I am a true fan of UT. I have seen some good and great QB's come by over the years. I am entitled to my opinion and I truly feel Worley is not a SEC QB. Hindsight being 20/20- maybe I should have stated he is not an "average" SEC QB.
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you indeed are entitled to your opinion. It just does no good at this point. It seems to lack class when you consider his injury, and also how bad the Florida first half went without him. Again, his teammates love him and he has been a model student athlete and leader through tough times, so I see no good in kicking him while he is down. He may never start at UT again, so making a thread pointing out his inability seems immature and not something a true fan should do. tifwiw
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Be careful, if your thumb is down, OP will start a negative thread about you
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I will admit I am wrong. I should have stated that 10 TD's through 8 games reflects what great play we have had at QB position. No negativity.
 
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jkleno said:
Worley has beaten more quality teams than Bray. End. Of. Thread.
I do think your post is pointless. How can you compare Bray to Worley on the basis of beating South Carolina? At what point in the season did Worley hurt his thumb- you are stating it as if it occurred at the beginning of the year.
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I never said he hurt his thumb at the beginning of the season, but that his thumb is out now and he can't play, so making a thread about him not being an SEC qb seems cheap.

Also, I always thought qb's were supposed to lead their team, and to win games, especially games that matter. Worley did that more than Bray. Fact. In less time. Fact. With less talent. Fact. I would take Worley over Bray any day of the year. He doesn't have as much talent but he does it the right way and genuinely cares for his team and his teammates play for him.
 
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jkleno said:
I will admit I am wrong. I should have stated that 10 TD's through 8 games reflects what great play we have had at QB position. No negativity.
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it also reflects no dropped balls by receivers, the amount of running plays, passes rushed, big play attempts, and those 2 halves Worley didn't play, right? Right?
 
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Appreciate Worley's hard work and improvement this year. Hate to see him get hurt, but I know he'll continue to be one of the leaders on the team and help everyone get ready for these final four games.

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jkleno said:
I will admit I am wrong. I should have stated that 10 TD's through 8 games reflects what great play we have had at QB position. No negativity.
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lets bring back the guy who threw for a ton of TD's but lost to UK and got throttled by every team Worley has lost to. As long as our QB throws a lot of td's, all is right with the world I guess...
 
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OrangeInKy said:
I never said he hurt his thumb at the beginning of the season, but that his thumb is out now and he can't play, so making a thread about him not being an SEC qb seems cheap.

Also, I always thought qb's were supposed to lead their team, and to win games, especially games that matter. Worley did that more than Bray. Fact. In less time. Fact. With less talent. Fact. I would take Worley over Bray any day of the year. He doesn't have as much talent but he does it the right way and genuinely cares for his team and his teammates play for him.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I would not take Worley over Bray. Do you remember the "crap" that went on under Dooley? Unfortunately, Dooley's complacency and poor leadership filtered through his team (esp how he handled Rogers). And Bray made plenty of mistakes himself. I wouldn't question Bray's intent on the field.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
Completions: 109
Attempts: 196
Yards: 1239
Comp. Percentage: 55.6%
Yards Per Attempt: 6.32
Long: 51
TDs: 10
INTs: 8
Passer Rating: 117.4


He's not a world beater, but he had developed into a pretty reliable QB. He even looked pretty accurate against Bama prior to his injury, I thought. He can't hit the long ball, but he was good on the short stuff. His receivers hurt him.

Early in the season, he did look like hot garbage, but he was maturing quickly, IMO. I'm as excited as anybody to see what Dobbs can do, but why keep hating on Worley?
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Sorry for quoting myself from another thread, but: "QB rating of 119.3, in the SEC 13th out of 14 who have averaged at least 15 att per game. He's 11th in completion % on the same list and 13th in yards per completion. (13th in yards per attempt, which mathematically combines completion percentage with yards per completion.) His rating in the last two games, when he "turned the corner", is 116.46. His rating against ranked opponents is 108.85 which is 9th in the conference. This is mediocrity."

(This was before the Alabama game, which only hurts the numbers more.)

I should have stayed out of this one -- Justin seems like a great kid -- but you quoted stats that show his performance thus far to be poor, and suggested it somehow showed him to be "reliable".
 
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jkleno said:
You are entitled to your opinion. I would not take Worley over Bray. Do you remember the "crap" that went on under Dooley? Unfortunately, Dooley's complacency and poor leadership filtered through his team (esp how he handled Rogers). And Bray made plenty of mistakes himself. I wouldn't question Bray's intent on the field.
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Seriously? 2011 UK game ring a bell?

Also, I understand that Dooley wasn't a good leader, but Bray made his own decisions. Plenty of players get saddled with bad leaders and coaches yet they resolve to go about their business. UT has unlimited resources for a player who wants to learn and grow. Bottom line is you started a thread based on Worley's lack of touchdowns and Bray is a guy who threw a ton of touchdowns with nothing to show for it. I have enjoyed 2013 Vols more than any team of the last 5 years. Worley is part of that. Character over talent in my book.

There are opinions, and then there are facts. (many of your have been proven to be false in this thread by the way) Distorting facts to support opinions isn't cool, especially when it is a player who has worked hard and now hurt for the year. There is no point to it and if you would see that and admit it, it would be good. Stop kicking the guy when he is down.
 
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jkleno said:
How can 1 player win us a game? That is so disrespectful to all of the other players.
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How can OP start a thread so far off on the info he bases his opinion around yet still defend his position? It's so disrespectful to UT fans that actually watch the games.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Seriously? 2011 UK game ring a bell?

Also, I understand that Dooley wasn't a good leader, but Bray made his own decisions. Plenty of players get saddled with bad leaders and coaches yet they resolve to go about their business. UT has unlimited resources for a player who wants to learn and grow. Bottom line is you started a thread based on Worley's lack of touchdowns and Bray is a guy who threw a ton of touchdowns with nothing to show for it. I have enjoyed 2013 Vols more than any team of the last 5 years. Worley is part of that. Character over talent in my book.
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AND that was the same game Rogers "cussed out" his coach. Do you realize how impressible these young men are? With an example like Dooley, I am so happy with CBJ. If we had a leader as a coach over the past 4 years, I think things would have been different for Bray.
I would also take Bray's career 69 TD's and 28 INT's over
Worley's 11 TD and 13 INT's.
 
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jkleno said:
I wasn't bashing anyone. All I said is that he is NOT an SEC QB.
How does he rank vs the SEC and Oregon- 4 TD's in 5 Games and 4 INT's.
No need to kick a kitten- explain to me how he is a SEC caliber QB? And please no "lame duck" excuses"- sticking with your animal references.
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Don't worry man I agree with you. I do have nothing but respect for Worley but you are right he is definitely not an SEC caliber Qb.
 
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Blackburn said:
How can OP start a thread so far off on the info he bases his opinion around yet still defend his position? It's so disrespectful to UT fans that actually watch the games.
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Please provide the correct info. Does he have more than 10 TD's?
 
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