10 Passing TD's

#76
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jkleno said:
I will admit I am wrong. I should have stated that 10 TD's through 8 games reflects what great play we have had at QB position. No negativity.
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NO....you should have stepped back and said to yourself "hey I'm not an SEC caliber poster" so I will not start a OP.
 
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You guys are killing me...enough that 5 pages in, I have to drop my .02...

Look, we have WHAT WE HAVE, talent-wise. PERIOD.

Worley is not a 3-yr Sr starter surrounded by NC level talent, so it is just asinine to expect that type of performance from the kid. Most of us realists knew it would be a struggle this year...I've been both disappointed and pleasantly surprised by this team's performance this year, often in the same games. On the whole, I've seen forward progress, even as inconsistent as it has been...its what I hoped for.

But you knuckleheads that come on here and bash the kid, who HAS improved, under difficult circumstances...as a first-year starter...playing the most difficult schedule in the country...with ONE experienced receiver...with a defense susceptible to being burned on the edges AND by the deep ball...after he's hurt and most likely done for the year? You jackasses are killing me.

Hell yeah, JW deserves some appreciation and gratitude...He's the one whos stood in there and taken the shots, shown improvement in both accuracy and game-management. World-class stats? Hell no, not this year...but at least some stability, leadership and improvement...which is what most of us were hoping for.

Evidently, in some of your worlds, we should have TRADED FOR MCARRON IN THE OFF-SEASON...smdh.

We're a game better than where we thought we'd be right now and I think its on Justin Worley.

Now its time to hope Josh Dobbs and co. will ball-out this Sat., and to pray for a full and speedy recovery for Justin Worley.
 
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"Originally Posted by jkleno
Some people just "can't handle the truth." They have to resort to name calling and questioning IQ. Just shows they know they have a poor argument. Then they flood the thread with excuses.
Bottom line- he isn't an SEC caliber talent at QB.

Totally agree with you. It's just sad to see people accept and defend such mediocrity."

This thread totally sucks because of you two. Who is accepting and defending mediocrity? Worley wanted to come to UT, and he's done the best he can. Starting a thread about a Vol QB who's hurt and needed surgery claiming he's not a "SEC type QB" is childish at best. You think everyone else doesn't get it? You two are the ones who don't get it. Kicking a guy who's down is one of the lowest forms of behavior a "fan" can exhibit. If you feel the need to belittle anyone else, just look in the mirror and you will find a person who truly deserves to be belittled.
 
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jkleno said:
I just realized we have only 10 passing TD's through 8 games. Our longest TD pass is 9 yards to Devrin Young. I am glad to see Dobbs get his chance. No excuses for Worley- he is NOT an SEC QB.
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Worley is absolutely an SEC QB. Not a top tier QB, but you don't play as well as he did in the 2nd halves of the Florida and Georgia games and help lead the team to the first significant win since 2009 vs SCar if you can't play.

It's not all him. Young WRs have to help him out. North and Pig have been his only "consistent" receivers. Smith has nearly as many drops as catches (11) and Croom has been only spotty at best. Don't get me started on the TE play...not good.
 
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PimpVol said:
The point is clear. Stick to bashing Kiffin, Dooley, Sal or Fulmer. Worley is off limits.
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Not bashing Worley. Just stating facts. Hats off to the man for finding a way to get us our first win against a ranked opponent in since 2009 but the fact remains that he is not an SEC caliber Qb. He wasn't SEC caliber before the injury and just because he's injured doesn't mean people can't have their own opinion on him whether it's good or bad. Still respect him though.
 
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If 10 TD's through 8 games is acceptable from the majority of posters, then I am wrong with stating Worley is not SEC caliber in a post. However, I can't agree with the multitude of excuses for his performance.
 
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jkleno said:
If 10 TD's through 8 games is acceptable from the majority of posters, then I am wrong with stating Worley is not SEC caliber in a post. However, I can't agree with the multitude of excuses for his performance.
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Talent level. Inexperience. Drops. Besides Nate Peterman, how many on this roster did Butch recruit? Did I mention talent level? Facts, not excuses. It is what it is. Don't worry, I remember the under-overthrows too...part of inexperience.

You're right, we should all be in an uproar because Worley didn't light up both the Ducks and the Tide ON THE ROAD for at least 2-3 TD's each...

SMDH.

Reality sux...
 
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jkleno said:
You are entitled to your opinion. I would not take Worley over Bray. Do you remember the "crap" that went on under Dooley? Unfortunately, Dooley's complacency and poor leadership filtered through his team (esp how he handled Rogers). And Bray made plenty of mistakes himself. I wouldn't question Bray's intent on the field.
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I would definitely question Bray's intent on the field. For a guy with all that talent I got so tired of seeing him shurging his shoulders acting like he could care less. He wasn't half the leader Worley has been this year. This is the first year in a while their hasn't been all the drama. I would take Worley over Bray just for that reason alone.
 
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KBVol said:
Worley is absolutely an SEC QB. Not a top tier QB, but you don't play as well as he did in the 2nd halves of the Florida and Georgia games and help lead the team to the first significant win since 2009 vs SCar if you can't play.

It's not all him. Young WRs have to help him out. North and Pig have been his only "consistent" receivers. Smith has nearly as many drops as catches (11) and Croom has been only spotty at best. Don't get me started on the TE play...not good.
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It helps if the QB is ''consistent'' and Worley is far from ''consistent''.

His accuracy is terrible. Most of those dropped passes aren't even the WRs fault at all. Worley throws the ball way too high or way to short/behind the receiver. Heck sometimes he throws it at the WRs ankles lol.

And if your going on Smith has about as many drops as catches. Well, Worley has almost as many interceptions as he does touchdowns. C'mon man!

I agree 110% with the OP. So what Worley has a broken thumb. Should we of bashed him before he injured it so it wouldn't be ''disrespectful'. It's just criticism. I don't ''hate'' the guy.

I'm sure Worley is a great guy on and off the field but this is Football. We need a great quarterback. Thankfully we have Dobbs and Ferguson.
 
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Bigorangedad3528 said:
I would definitely question Bray's intent on the field. For a guy with all that talent I got so tired of seeing him shurging his shoulders acting like he could care less. He wasn't half the leader Worley has been this year. This is the first year in a while their hasn't been all the drama. I would take Worley over Bray just for that reason alone.
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It starts at the TOP my friend. Dooley. I love the fact how we can't state the truth about Worley, no negative posts about UT players, then we "throw them under the bus" when they leave. C'mon man. You don't know the type of leader Bray is or was.
 
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jkleno said:
It starts at the TOP my friend. Dooley. I love the fact how we can't state the truth about Worley, no negative posts about UT players, then we "throw them under the bus" when they leave. C'mon man. You don't know the type of leader Bray is or was.
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I don't care who the coach was. Every press conference or interview that was done with Bray he acted like he didn't care if he was here or not. There were other guys on the team under Dooley that you could tell wanted to be there. Hey all I'm saying is it makes it easier to get behind a person when you can tell they care. Not trying to throw anybody under the bus. Just pretty easy to see that Bray was pretty immature and not much of a leader.
 
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neyland05 said:
He may not be the best but why talk about him when he has worked his butt off for this team... Not to mention he has no experienced receivers
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I will mention it. Our receivers are just now learning their reads and their routes. Even North isn't exactly flying wide open, but is mostly making grabs against good coverage. Worley is a fine QB. Give him a break people.
 
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jkleno said:
I just realized we have only 10 passing TD's through 8 games. Our longest TD pass is 9 yards to Devrin Young. I am glad to see Dobbs get his chance. No excuses for Worley- he is NOT an SEC QB.
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To way to over come ignorance.
 
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jkleno said:
AND that was the same game Rogers "cussed out" his coach. Do you realize how impressible these young men are? With an example like Dooley, I am so happy with CBJ. If we had a leader as a coach over the past 4 years, I think things would have been different for Bray.
I would also take Bray's career 69 TD's and 28 INT's over
Worley's 11 TD and 13 INT's.
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Cool. I will take Worley's 1 quality win over Bray's zero.

FYI, many in Knox media saw firsthand and reported Bray's behavior in locker room. Personally, I do feel bad that Bray didn't get better coaching and I hope he has a good NFL career and I bet he will. However, I haven't heard many vouch for him as a leader. Some players open themselves up to criticism, like Rogers and Bray. Worley is not one of those, he is what I look for in a Vol in terms of leadership. His O-lineman seem to love him, so their view carries weight(pun intended) with me..

Again, I just don't see the point of starting a thread pointing out what most know. Worley is not an all star, but he has done a very solid job under tough circumstances. Starting a thread to point out he is not an SEC caliber qb is pointless and petty, especially when he is done. What do you hope to accomplish? His UT career may be over for the most part, so why start a thread to pile on? Keep defending it though.
 
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Bigorangedad3528 said:
I don't care who the coach was. Every press conference or interview that was done with Bray he acted like he didn't care if he was here or not. There were other guys on the team under Dooley that you could tell wanted to be there. Hey all I'm saying is it makes it easier to get behind a person when you can tell they care. Not trying to throw anybody under the bus. Just pretty easy to see that Bray was pretty immature and not much of a leader.
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Yes. Nick Reveiz played for Dooley, yet he still wanted it

Malik Jackson, Byron Moore, Nick Reveiz all played under Dooley and are examples of hard workers and good teammates and leaders. Justin Hunter did well, as did Mychal Rivera
 
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jkleno said:
How can 1 player win us a game? That is so disrespectful to all of the other players.
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Are you serious? How is what you're saying about Worley not disrespectful? QBs have an insane effect on games. You think TAMU would have the wins they do without Manziel? Would FSU be where they are without Winston?

Your logic is flawed and you obviously hate Worley. Kudos to you.
 
#100
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jkleno said:
I just realized we have only 10 passing TD's through 8 games. Our longest TD pass is 9 yards to Devrin Young. I am glad to see Dobbs get his chance. No excuses for Worley- he is NOT an SEC QB.
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If this isn't bashing, I'd like to know what you consider bashing is.

You have no argument for that last statement. Did Worley suck to begin with? Yes. However...

You really need to put down the WRs and defense if you're going to say anything about JW.

He came along in the Georgia game (when his team played with a darn hmmmmm who would've guessed?), and played well and beat SCjr despite being injured. He's not a Murray or Manziel but he's becoming a decont QB (and reliable) in a system that doesn't fit him so well. So shut up. Pinning only 10 TDs only on JW id taking a shot at him. Say that after the Oregon game MAYBE. NOT now.
 
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