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Very. Les Miles is constantly out coached. He wins solely on talent. LSU wins in spite of Les Miles. He's a great recruiter, but horrible coach. That's just my opinion.

He should've beaten Bama for the NC a few years ago. Horrible game plan for that game. He should've beaten Clemson last year. He let Dabo out coach him.
 
Very. Les Miles is constantly out coached. He wins solely on talent. LSU wins in spite of Les Miles. He's a great recruiter, but horrible coach. That's just my opinion.

He should've beaten Bama for the NC a few years ago. Horrible game plan for that game. He should've beaten Clemson last year. He let Dabo out coach him.

LSU actually has a plan for the future with chief and cam as co ordinators. Their future is very bright.
 
Very. Les Miles is constantly out coached. He wins solely on talent. LSU wins in spite of Les Miles. He's a great recruiter, but horrible coach. That's just my opinion.

He should've beaten Bama for the NC a few years ago. Horrible game plan for that game. He should've beaten Clemson last year. He let Dabo out coach him.

Stupid is as stupid does. You don't accumulate the # of wins he has in this conference without being a damn good football coach. I'm betting you're the dude leaning on the fence thinking you can out coach your kid's Pop Warner coach too. Smh
 
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Very. Les Miles is constantly out coached. He wins solely on talent. LSU wins in spite of Les Miles. He's a great recruiter, but horrible coach. That's just my opinion.

Anyone could basically say that about anyone.

Can you please post your great football coaching resume?

Les is a great guy, the team loves him, and LSU is pretty much in the mix every year. And no they don't win on talent alone. This year has been a great year for the coaching staff under the circumstances ie rebuilding this year and next.
 
Stupid is as stupid does. You don't accumulate the # of wins he has in this conference without being a damn good football coach. I'm betting you're the dude leaning on the fence thinking you can out coach your kid's Pop Warner coach too. Smh

He's basically Mark Richt of the Western division. LSU wins based on talent alone. You can actually win games based on talent, but the big games where you actually have to coach, he falls short every time.

Again, this is just my opinion.
 
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He's basically Mark Richt of the Western division. LSU wins based on talent alone. You can actually win games based on talent, but the big games where you actually have to coach, he falls short every time.

Again, this is just my opinion.

My opinion is you couldn't coach yourself out of a paper bag.

It's so easy to win every game, I wonder why more coaches just don't do it... you are the kind of football person I dread to hear exists.

Mark Richt is a good coach, sure he hasn't won all the big games but he is good, and he runs a clean program.... .let me let in on a secret... it's impossible for everyone to win.
 
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My opinion is you couldn't coach yourself out of a paper bag.

It's so easy to win every game, I wonder why more coaches just don't do it... you are the kind of football person I dread to hear exists.

Mark Richt is a good coach, sure he hasn't won all the big games but he is good, and he runs a clean program.... .let me let in on a secret... it's impossible for everyone to win.

I never professed to being a coach, but I am sure that I could out coach you. Honestly, I don't think that you could coach yourself out of wet tissue.

I never said I didn't like Richt, nor did I say that I didn't think that he was a good coach. I made the comparisons in regards to underachieving at times. I am sure that I am not the only person that feels that both Miles and Richt underachieves on occasion.

Some coaches actually do go undefeated. It is hard in a competitive league, however it is not impossible.

In the short term, the coaches are paid to win. To win big games and/or championships. However, in the grand scheme of things, the coaches are there to make the young men into the best men that they can possibly be, and to get them ready for life after football.
 
Anyone could basically say that about anyone.

Can you please post your great football coaching resume?

Les is a great guy, the team loves him, and LSU is pretty much in the mix every year. And no they don't win on talent alone. This year has been a great year for the coaching staff under the circumstances ie rebuilding this year and next.

Agree and his press conferences are the best.
 
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He's basically Mark Richt of the Western division. LSU wins based on talent alone. You can actually win games based on talent, but the big games where you actually have to coach, he falls short every time.

Again, this is just my opinion.

National Championships put him in different league
 
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If you're gonna be dumb as hell you better be lucky as hell

Les Miles getting hammered over inexplicable late-game decisions

Originally Published: Nov 23, 2009 12:33 PM CDT
The clock mismanagement by LSU Coach Les Miles in the loss to Ole Miss this past Saturday was flabbergasting. And it was to a lot of emotional Bengal Tiger football fans, many of whom have been wearing the former OSU coach out on the internet.

They are all over him about a series of mistakes he made as LSU was driving for a potential game- winning score. Miles has one of the best field goal kickers in the nation and a three-pointer would have given Miles and LSU another close-game win.

The play-calling was inexplicable. But more so was the fact that he let the clock dwindle down by wasting precious time, that saw a Hail Mary type pass actually be completed, resulting in LSU being in field goal range.

But with one second remaining all his QB could do was attempt to spike the ball. Of course the game ended with football fans everywhere wondering if what they saw or heard really happened. Veteran broadcasters Verne Lunquidst and Gary Danielson were completely dumbfounded by the baffling series of late-game decision by Miles.

For some reason he granted an interview to CBS as he walked off the field. He didn't have much of a coherent answer for CBS sideline reporter Tracy Wolfson:

"Coach, what happened on that last play?" she asked. "How come you didn't try for the field goal?" Miles' reply to the question about what he was thinking as the final seconds ticked off the clock was confusing, at best. "We couldn't get it lined up fast enough," he told Wolfson. "You know, we knew we were gonna run out of time???that ??? that ??? that was the issue. We probably had to call ??? we tried to get the field goal team on ??? they were down there under ???"We could not have spiked it, certainly."

Miles has been credited for years with so-called gutsy last minute play-calling, although he doesn't actually call the plays but he's responsible as the plays always go through the head coach. From my vantage point and from the vantage point of many coaches I've spoken with throughout the years, some of those "gutsy" calls were unsound but somehow worked out.

But the situation outlined above is one that has the LSU nation both confounded and livid at the same time.

In the words of former OSU coach Pat Jones, Miles confusion/indecisiveness/mismanagement left onlookers "bumfuzzled."
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Gut Punch
 
He's basically Mark Richt of the Western division. LSU wins based on talent alone. You can actually win games based on talent, but the big games where you actually have to coach, he falls short every time.

Again, this is just my opinion.
I think that's a good comparison in their coaching. Sometimes Les is bat shi* crazy though.
 
to say Les wins on talent alone is not fair - he is a great recruiter but he also is overseeing a program that is developing that talent into really great football players that go to the NFL ready to play

now as a game-day coach - ill have to pass

but every day other than game day he is one heck of a coach - recruiting, motivating players, developing players - these are all integral elements to being a great coach and can't be overlooked just b/c he has a few baffling game-day errors

now that being said I for $%#$ sure wouldnt hire him to be an NFL coach where the playing field is more even, recruiting not a factor, development less of one - b/c then these decisions would hurt him much more but i'd take him as my college coach every day of the week
 
to say Les wins on talent alone is not fair - he is a great recruiter but he also is overseeing a program that is developing that talent into really great football players that go to the NFL ready to play

now as a game-day coach - ill have to pass

but every day other than game day he is one heck of a coach - recruiting, motivating players, developing players - these are all integral elements to being a great coach and can't be overlooked just b/c he has a few baffling game-day errors

now that being said I for $%#$ sure wouldnt hire him to be an NFL coach where the playing field is more even, recruiting not a factor, development less of one - b/c then these decisions would hurt him much more but i'd take him as my college coach every day of the week

I agree. That was my point. His game day coaching leaves you scratching your head at times.
 
I interact with a lot of LSU fans week in and week out. Many of them are now realizing just how lucky they were to win a title in 2007.

Think back to a couple of the games they won that season...Auburn is a perfect example. Those "gutsy" plays worked out for him then because he has great athletes. You can't flip a coin and it land on tails every time. Eventually you're going to lose some of those coin flips. I believe we're seeing variance rear its ugly head now. Not to mention they were a 2 loss team.

Is he a bad coach? No, but I wouldn't put him in the top 10. He's fortunate to have top 5 talent every single year. IMO, there is no excuse for losing 3+ games with that much talent.
 
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Every championship team gets lucky. How lucky was Saban vs Tennessee in 09'? How lucky was Saban two years ago when his team didn't even earn the right to be in the NC game? That rightfully should have been Miles 2nd NC. There's probably not a coach in the nation who would have beaten Saban a second time around. Les's LSU team would have shut down and smashed that Oklahoma State team. Keep in mind he beat a very good WVU team in Morgantown, smashed Oregon in Jerry's house, and beat Bama in Bama. He was robbed having to play Bama again.

10,11,12, and 13 win seasons in what has been a brutal SEC West during his tenure don't just grow on trees. Neither do NCs. But hey, I'm trying to get thru to Tennessee fans who weren't happy with Majors or Fulmer. It's rather comical to see such criticism for a NC coach who does nothing but win and has flat out owned Tennessee during his tenure in Baton Rouge. But hey what do I know?....
 
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Les Miles', coach at LSU since 2005, "owning" of UT has less to do with his brilliance in coaching and more in our ineptitude at it for the past decade sadly (IMO).
 
I never professed to being a coach, but I am sure that I could out coach you. Honestly, I don't think that you could coach yourself out of wet tissue.

I never said I didn't like Richt, nor did I say that I didn't think that he was a good coach. I made the comparisons in regards to underachieving at times. I am sure that I am not the only person that feels that both Miles and Richt underachieves on occasion.

Some coaches actually do go undefeated. It is hard in a competitive league, however it is not impossible.

In the short term, the coaches are paid to win. To win big games and/or championships. However, in the grand scheme of things, the coaches are there to make the young men into the best men that they can possibly be, and to get them ready for life after football.

Sorry buddy there is only one national championship and 100+ coaches trying to get it, doesn't matter how high the salaries go, someone has to lose. You are not making any sense.

If what you are saying is their only one good coach a year and the rest are bad.

If what you saying is correct, USC should have won the freaking championship every year... I guess Carroll sucks too. You sir, are the type of person I strive not to be.

The only big thing Les has done wrong, was delaying getting rid of Crowton, Crowton destroyed the offense and it's only now getting in good shape.

Les has done a GREAT job with this team this year, I mean LSU has the best D this year... the problem is you only see them play on Sunday.

Les is a GREAT guy, sometimes I want to kick him in the nuts though:eek:lol:, the players LOVE him, and LSU is in the mix every year, and it a fairly clean program so far... what else is there? Oh you have to beat everyone all the time or some stupid wanna be coach on a forum can tell you how easy it is... you just recruit some guys from HS and you just automatically get 10+ wins. Please. LOL

LSU was the best non-salary college team playing on Saturday in Bama land.
 
to say Les wins on talent alone is not fair - he is a great recruiter but he also is overseeing a program that is developing that talent into really great football players that go to the NFL ready to play

now as a game-day coach - ill have to pass

but every day other than game day he is one heck of a coach - recruiting, motivating players, developing players - these are all integral elements to being a great coach and can't be overlooked just b/c he has a few baffling game-day errors

now that being said I for $%#$ sure wouldnt hire him to be an NFL coach where the playing field is more even, recruiting not a factor, development less of one - b/c then these decisions would hurt him much more but i'd take him as my college coach every day of the week

I completely agree. He's overseen a great, elite college program for how many years now? That doesn't happen by accident. He has a Natty. Again, no by accident. I personally like the guy and see him for what he is.... a damn good college football coach.
 
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I completely agree. He's overseen a great, elite college program for how many years now? That doesn't happen by accident. He has a Natty. Again, no by accident. I personally like the guy and see him for what he is.... a damn good college football coach.

I agree, I like him too. He's a bit quirky, funny as hell. He's not a total d-bag like Saban, Muschamp, or Meyer.
 
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