#19 Wake Forest loses starting QB Sam Hartman indefinitely.

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Due to a medical procedure for a non-football related issue.

Hartman accounted for just under 4600 total yards and 50 TDs of the Demon Deacons’ offense last season.

Instead they’ll be going into the season with Mitch Griffis, a redshirt freshman who has thrown a total of 15 passes over the last 2 years, completing 4 of them.

…in an extremely deep throwing, pass-heavy, always hurry up no huddle, bad-defense-gassing-if-it-can’t-stay-on-the-field offense

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…Good luck!
 
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What procedure?

We talking having his appendix taken out or we talking acl surgery?

Edit: everything online only says "procedure" also. Very strange.
 
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stolitonic said:
What procedure?

We talking having his appendix taken out or we talking acl surgery?

Edit: everything online only says "procedure" also. Very strange.
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Medical privacy laws. So unless he comes to reporters to tell them what it was, we probably won’t know.

There’s some thought/rumor at this point - due to a picture some claim was up and taken down but there’s not too much that can be done to verify anything about that at this point - of it being a procedure due to blood clots. If that were the case, the procedures and the general safety need to minimize bleeding while recovering on anticoagulants for 3 months would put him at around potentially a November return, if all procedures and recovery were to go well.

But that said, again, who knows how accurate or valid that is, and as such I’m not sure that can be given too much weight at this point.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Medical privacy laws. So unless he comes to reporters to tell them what it was, we probably won’t know.

There’s some thought/rumor at this point - due to a picture some claim was up and taken down but there’s not too much that can be done to verify anything about that at this point - of it being a procedure due to blood clots. If that were the case, the procedures and the general safety need to minimize bleeding while recovering on anticoagulants for 3 months would put him at around potentially a November return, if all procedures and recovery were to go well.

But that said, again, who knows how accurate or valid that is, and as such I’m not sure that can be given too much weight at this point.
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Thanks man. Was just generally perplexed as usually they say upfront what the issue is unless it is something with a bad connotation. I don't think (or at least hope) that people do not jump on the young man if this is a blood clot situation. Not like it's his fault or was injured doing something stupid.

I think when Trey Smith went through blood clots, he was pretty open about the situation?

Can't say that I am a Wake fan per se, but I occasionally watch them if nothing else is going on. Always nice when tiny little Wake takes down a much bigger dog.
 
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stolitonic said:
Thanks man. Was just generally perplexed as usually they say upfront what the issue is unless it is something with a bad connotation. I don't think (or at least hope) that people do not jump on the young man if this is a blood clot situation. Not like it's his fault or was injured doing something stupid.

I think when Trey Smith went through blood clots, he was pretty open about the situation?

Can't say that I am a Wake fan per se, but I occasionally watch them if nothing else is going on. Always nice when tiny little Wake takes down a much bigger dog.
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Hey man, not everyone likes to announce they got a major case of hemorrhoids.
 
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Read somewhere this morning that it might be generalized anxiety disorder. I believe it was a tweet on one of the major networks sports programming..... It's a rumor but thought i'd throw that out there.
 
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That really sucks for Wake. They were poised to make some noise this season, and a few media outlets had their offense highly rated.
 
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And sadly, they aren't on our schedule. Best wishes and a speedy recovery to Hartman.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Wake, Vandy, Duke, Northwestern… You can always find them playing each other.
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I mean, to be fair, Wake Forest and Duke are permanent cross-divisional opponents, so they sort of have to be on each other’s schedules each year. I presume this was the ACC’s solution to preventing one or two of the historically more competitive programs from garnering an advantage by having either as a fixed yearly cross-divisional game.

(Oddly enough, though, I don’t think Vanderbilt’s played Wake Forest, Duke, or Northwestern since 2013, 2008, and 2012, respectively.)
 
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TrueOrange said:
I mean, to be fair, Wake Forest and Duke are permanent cross-divisional opponents, so they sort of have to be on each other’s schedules each year. I presume this was the ACC’s solution to preventing one or two of the historically more competitive programs from garnering an advantage by having either as a fixed yearly cross-divisional game.

(Oddly enough, though, I don’t think Vanderbilt’s played Wake Forest, Duke, or Northwestern since 2013, 2008, and 2012, respectively.)
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The ACC put Duke and UNC in the Coastal and State and Wake in the Atlantic . This is the ACC’s way of making sure that the Tobacco Road schools have a cross division rival. I don’t know if they were too worried about the competitive balance or not. They should’ve kept them all in the same division with other original ACC teams. Duke, UNC, Wake, State, UVA, Clemson, GT in one division and then VT, BC, Miami, PITT, FSU, Syracuse, Louisville. Basically the old Big East vs the Old ACC. Would’ve been an easy way to preserve rivalries and also keep a decent competitive balance.
 
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