1st and 10 on the Florida 39...

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I listened to the game on the net/radio up until those final few minutes, when UT finally showed up on the television. I've only seen that last set of offensive plays that one time, though I've thought about it often enough.

1st and 10 on the 39. 56 yarder from here for Wilhoit. That's probably too far...and I want at least 5 more yards to even think about the chance at the win. Still, there's a reasonable amount of time on the clock. I feel pretty good.

1st and 10 on the 39, and we run play action. Obviously the linebacker, or whoever it was, was not fooled by either the fake or the play call. Maybe both.

Maybe no one missed a block, but I have a feeling Cory did. See that big gaping hole on the right side? Maybe we want to fill that area? I'm disappointed Montario didn't give up on the fake and try to chip that guy as well. Was Cory turned around watching the end of the play? If so, that leads me to believe he realized he goofed.

I'm not sure I agree with the call for play action there as well. It kind of reminded me of Alabama years ago if they fell behind. They'd still line up with 2 backs and a tight end or two, still run a play action fake...as if anyone would believe they'd actually run the ball.

Were play action passes working before? Maybe that's why the play was called. Perhaps that type of play had worked before.

My problem is the timing of the call. We need at least 5 yards in 3 plays to at least try a boomer from Wilhoit. Our running game had only produced 5 yards one time if I recall correctly. I'm just not sure that anyone believed that play was going to be a run.

If you can't fool the defense on a play action fake, you don't need to be running a play action fake. You should just take your chances with a drop back pass.

We lost, what, 11 yards on the play?

2nd down and 21 we get 8 yards across the middle. I know the down and distance was different..but 8 yards on 1st down would have been really nice.

3rd and 13...I have no idea what Ainge was thinking on the play.

4th and 13...well, dang. That's all I have to say.


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I guess I just don't understand the play call on 1st down. We were in a good position to win the game...and the play action pass is a bit of a gamble.

I know I'd like to see the whole game, particularly that last set of downs.
 
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I think we lost 14 yards on that play. Otherwise, nice summary. That's pretty much how it fell apart. :no:
 
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From what I understand, it wasn't Anderson who missed his block, it was the center Frogg.
 
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I don't think the 1st down call was all that big a gamble at all. In fact, after the game, I heard Fulmer say that they had a very safe pass called with 7 or 8 guys staying in to protect. Somebody just absolutely whiffed on the protection and it turned into a jailbreak at the worst possible time.
 
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OWB said:
From what I understand, it wasn't Anderson who missed his block, it was the center Frogg.
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Yeah Frogg missed more blocks than I can count on Saturday. Makes you wonder more about not playing McNeil.
 
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That line took a beating saturday no doubt. But, they played one of the best front 7 in the nation and hopefully are able to learn this week. Should Frogg have sat down? Who knows, but either way we lose that game. We are too young and too thin for an older, more experienced SEC team right now. Two weeks is all we have to get it together or more of the same against the SEC this year. Ga has a stout D as well as LSU. I hope our coacing staff is ready b/c now they are in make it or break it time. TN has to show up and run the ball against our next 2 weaker opp. or we are in for a long season.
 
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Even money. No longer than 1.5:1.

I understand they were neck-in-neck before the season started.
 
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kcvols1 said:
Even money. No longer than 1.5:1.

I understand they were neck-in-neck before the season started.
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I figure you are about right, and if anything then maybe McNeil has the advantage at this point. Frogg gave up some huge plays in that game (stepping on our own players, missed blocks that resulted in game changing X and Longs). McNeil better be getting his big-boy pants ready, because I think we will be seeing him soon.
 
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thirdsaturday said:
I figure you are about right, and if anything then maybe McNeil has the advantage at this point. Frogg gave up some huge plays in that game (stepping on our own players, missed blocks that resulted in game changing X and Longs). McNeil better be getting his big-boy pants ready, because I think we will be seeing him soon.
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I think you should always play talent over experience, but it seems our coaching staff takes the other route most of the time.

And I believe Parker not Frogg was the one who tripped up Ainge.
 
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jaybird_1981 said:
I think you should always play talent over experience, but it seems our coaching staff takes the other route most of the time.

And I believe Parker not Frogg was the one who tripped up Ainge.
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It was Frogg... they showed the replay on CBS. From what I saw I was sure it was him. He got blown away and pushed back right away.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't think the 1st down call was all that big a gamble at all. In fact, after the game, I heard Fulmer say that they had a very safe pass called with 7 or 8 guys staying in to protect. Somebody just absolutely whiffed on the protection and it turned into a jailbreak at the worst possible time.
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It's hard for me to think that a play action pass is a "safe" call when there is virtually no threat of a run. We're trying to sell a run, which means at least one potential blocker is working more on a fake than a block.

If you don't sell that run, you're betting on everyone picking up their blocks. The quarterback most likely has his back turned on the fake and wouldn't see anyone coming through, which was the case here. I found myself saying, "throw the ball away, throw the ball away!" as the linebacker was running towards Ainge.

I'd love to see the game over, particularly this play. Maybe it was Frogg who missed the block.

Still, I would have preferred a safe pass play with 7 or 8 players in blocking to have consisted of a drop back pass, where I think there's a better chance of everyone picking up a block. In the event one is missed, the quarterback has a better chance of seeing it and getting rid of the ball.
 
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ardent enthusiast said:
The quarterback most likely has his back turned on the fake and wouldn't see anyone coming through, which was the case here. I found myself saying, "throw the ball away, throw the ball away!" as the linebacker was running towards Ainge.
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I was doing the same thing. The breakdown in the pass protection was made even worse by the fact that it was an extra second or two before Ainge had a chance to react. Ainge was just going on instinct after that, but it would have been a good time to just eat the ball and take the sack and a 6 or 7 yard loss.
 
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Cut said that Frogg wen the wrong way and just made a mistake...they are reshuffling some personnel on the O line, not sure to what extent, but i did read where McNeil will get more playing time...their biggest concern with him was consistency...he had those fumbled snaps in fall camp, and it was a concern, but they love his attitude...apparently he's got a mean streak and they know they need that on the O line right now.
 
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GAVol said:
I was doing the same thing. The breakdown in the pass protection was made even worse by the fact that it was an extra second or two before Ainge had a chance to react. Ainge was just going on instinct after that, but it would have been a good time to just eat the ball and take the sack and a 6 or 7 yard loss.
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Throwing the ball away is the same as a sack. Loss of down and the ball is placed at the spot of the foul. No one should rag on Ainge about that penalty.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not upset with Ainge on the play. He wasn't expecting to have a linebacker right on top of him for the play. I realize the penalty was essentially a sack.

I would have like the ball thrown away sooner, which he had absolutely no control over. That's completely not his fault. I think I was saying that to myself in hopes he would whip his head around a second sooner and throw the ball to someone before he got hit.

I will admit, I don't like that he gambled with throwing the ball when he did, penalty or not.


Now that I think about it, I wouldn't have objected to a jump ball to Asumnu on the 4th and 13.
 
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