2 "legends of the game" this fall........

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Need to be Bill Bates and Todd Kelly. Why? Because we desperately need to sign both of their sons and because both are true VOL legends!!!!!!

It will be so sad if we don't get both of those guys home where they belong!!!
 
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I hate to be that guy, believe me, I want these guys in orange.

But have we ever thought that the fact that they're "legacy players" might actually drive them away from UT?

Maybe they don't want to follow in the footsteps of their dads. Maybe they want to start their own reputation at another school.

What I'm trying to say, is don't hate these kids if even though they are "legacy" kids, they don't choose UT. I hope they all do.

But I don't want to be known as "so and so's son." I want to be known as who I am.

Many of them may choose UT. But don't say "this is where they belong." Just because their parents went here, doesn't mean that they should or will want to.

Just trying to bring logic here. Yes, I know....logic not allowed here.
 
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Both are well deserving of the honor. The fact that their sons are potential Volunteers is just a bonus
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
I hate to be that guy, believe me, I want these guys in orange.

But have we ever thought that the fact that they're "legacy players" might actually drive them away from UT?

Maybe they don't want to follow in the footsteps of their dads. Maybe they want to start their own reputation at another school.

What I'm trying to say, is don't hate these kids if even though they are "legacy" kids, they don't choose UT. I hope they all do.

But I don't want to be known as "so and so's son." I want to be known as who I am.

Many of them may choose UT. But don't say "this is where they belong." Just because their parents went here, doesn't mean that they should or will want to.

Just trying to bring logic here. Yes, I know....logic not allowed here.
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Didn't Vonn Bells parents go to OH State? Fuad Reveiz's
boys went to UT. Eric Berry's dad played at at UT. Steve and Keith Delong played at UT.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
I hate to be that guy, believe me, I want these guys in orange.

But have we ever thought that the fact that they're "legacy players" might actually drive them away from UT?

Maybe they don't want to follow in the footsteps of their dads. Maybe they want to start their own reputation at another school.

What I'm trying to say, is don't hate these kids if even though they are "legacy" kids, they don't choose UT. I hope they all do.

But I don't want to be known as "so and so's son." I want to be known as who I am.

Many of them may choose UT. But don't say "this is where they belong." Just because their parents went here, doesn't mean that they should or will want to.

Just trying to bring logic here. Yes, I know....logic not allowed here.
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After the 3rd game of the season, no one referred Eric Berry as "James Berry's son"

After the early part of his sophomore season, no one referred to Peyton as "Archie Manning's son"

A player can get out of his parents shadows, if they are good players. Of course, Walter Payton's son was not good enough at Miami to escape his fathers shadow. Even though Walter did not attend Miami.

Jeffery Jordan playing at Central Florida is not escaping his fathers shadow in basketball because he has not created his own identity on the court.
 
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madbamahater said:
Didn't Vonn Bells parents go to OH State? Fuad Reveiz's
boys went to UT. Eric Berry's dad played at at UT. Steve and Keith Delong played at UT.
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His point was that some might not want to come because they may feel like they're riding dads coat tails.....others might think its an honor to play at the same place as their dad and believe me I hope they all want to come here but nothing says they have to
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Tim Hardaway Jr, Ken Griffey Jr......at a disadvantage. They're always associated with their dads.

Some of us actually like our Dads though.
 
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Vol865 said:
His point was that some might not want to come because they may feel like they're riding dads coat tails.....others might think its an honor to play at the same place as their dad and believe me I hope they all want to come here but nothing says they have to
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Thank you.

Yes.

I'm not saying that they won't want to come here. I'm just saying that if they don't, do not take it as a slap in the face to UT. It's just that they are wanting to carve a different path for themselves, and that's okay. Many of us carved different paths from our fathers.

That being said, I hope we land them all. I just don't want us automatically thinking these kids are locked, and getting pissed at them if they don't sign with us. No reason or sense for that.
 
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madbamahater said:
Sorry some of you hate your dads.
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Actually, my dad is my best friend. I talk to him at least once a week for at least an hour.

But that doesn't mean I want to follow in his footsteps in every way. I want to be half of the Christian man that he is. But I chose a different career path and a different way of getting there. I chose the path that worked the best for me.

That's all I'm saying, just because something was great for these boys' fathers, doesn't mean it will be what's best for them. And they all know that, and their fathers all know that. I just hope the fans know that too. When Todd Kelly Jr. says he doesn't want fans to hate him for making his decision, you know we've crossed a line with how we treat these young people. Granted, they play with our emotions and play games and lie sometimes and whatnot. But still. They are kids, and they are making the decision that they think is best for them. And we have no right to say whether that's right or not.

But once again, let me add, so that nobody thinks I'm a negavol or a troll....

I hope we land every single last one of them, and that they all end up 5*'s and lead us to 4 straight National Championships.
 
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Rudy123 said:
After the 3rd game of the season, no one referred Eric Berry as "James Berry's son"

After the early part of his sophomore season, no one referred to Peyton as "Archie Manning's son"

A player can get out of his parents shadows, if they are good players. Of course, Walter Payton's son was not good enough at Miami to escape his fathers shadow. Even though Walter did not attend Miami.

Jeffery Jordan playing at Central Florida is not escaping his fathers shadow in basketball because he has not created his own identity on the court.
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This is true, but then you went on to cite two guys who had almost 0% chance of ever escaping their namesake's legacy. Those guys could have been GREAT and still been engulfed in their father's shadows because one of their fathers was almost unquestionably the greatest basketball player to ever live and the other was arguably the greatest running back of all time.
 
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I'm glad that Peyton Manning chose to "escape" Archie's legacy. I'm sure Archie has no problem living in Peyton's shadow now.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Actually, my dad is my best friend. I talk to him at least once a week for at least an hour.

But that doesn't mean I want to follow in his footsteps in every way. I want to be half of the Christian man that he is. But I chose a different career path and a different way of getting there. I chose the path that worked the best for me.

That's all I'm saying, just because something was great for these boys' fathers, doesn't mean it will be what's best for them. And they all know that, and their fathers all know that. I just hope the fans know that too. When Todd Kelly Jr. says he doesn't want fans to hate him for making his decision, you know we've crossed a line with how we treat these young people. Granted, they play with our emotions and play games and lie sometimes and whatnot. But still. They are kids, and they are making the decision that they think is best for them. And we have no right to say whether that's right or not.

But once again, let me add, so that nobody thinks I'm a negavol or a troll....

I hope we land every single last one of them, and that they all end up 5*'s and lead us to 4 straight National Championships.
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The simple fact is that playing football for another school isn't like picking a different career. You mentioned that you chose a different career path. Just playing for another team doesnt let them escape from the shadow. It just doesn't.
 
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i hope they come to ut, i also hope the bates' boy can tackle better than his dad and not let a running back run him over, i don't care how good everyone else in the world thinks the running back is, tackle him period i don't care how via flying leap, suplex or whatever get him on the ground and make him remember ut and that hit.

I also hear eric berry is giving tackling classes... just run towards him with the football in your hand.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
I hate to be that guy, believe me, I want these guys in orange.

But have we ever thought that the fact that they're "legacy players" might actually drive them away from UT?

Maybe they don't want to follow in the footsteps of their dads. Maybe they want to start their own reputation at another school.

What I'm trying to say, is don't hate these kids if even though they are "legacy" kids, they don't choose UT. I hope they all do.

But I don't want to be known as "so and so's son." I want to be known as who I am.

Many of them may choose UT. But don't say "this is where they belong." Just because their parents went here, doesn't mean that they should or will want to.

Just trying to bring logic here. Yes, I know....logic not allowed here.
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It worked for Peyton.
 
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madbamahater said:
The simple fact is that playing football for another school isn't like picking a different career. You mentioned that you chose a different career path. Just playing for another team doesnt let them escape from the shadow. It just doesn't.
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Not a different career but another school might provide a better career opportunity in their eyes....just because their dads fall in love with UT doesn't mean they won't fall harder for another school....they aren't their dads...they have different trains of thought
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Phil-A-Man Jaro said:
Tim Hardaway Jr, Ken Griffey Jr......at a disadvantage. They're always associated with their dads.

Some of us actually like our Dads though.
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lol wut. Ken Griffey Jr. exceeded anything his dad every thought about doing.

His dad is associated with how amazing his son was.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Actually, my dad is my best friend. I talk to him at least once a week for at least an hour.

But that doesn't mean I want to follow in his footsteps in every way. I want to be half of the Christian man that he is. But I chose a different career path and a different way of getting there. I chose the path that worked the best for me.

That's all I'm saying, just because something was great for these boys' fathers, doesn't mean it will be what's best for them. And they all know that, and their fathers all know that. I just hope the fans know that too. When Todd Kelly Jr. says he doesn't want fans to hate him for making his decision, you know we've crossed a line with how we treat these young people. Granted, they play with our emotions and play games and lie sometimes and whatnot. But still. They are kids, and they are making the decision that they think is best for them. And we have no right to say whether that's right or not.

But once again, let me add, so that nobody thinks I'm a negavol or a troll....

I hope we land every single last one of them, and that they all end up 5*'s and lead us to 4 straight National Championships.
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Dad-hater.:nono:
 
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WesternKyVol said:
Dad-hater.:nono:
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Ha. I just became a dad to a little girl for the first time three weeks ago. Her name is Ella.

I pray every day that I'm a quarter of the dad my dad has been to me.

40% of boys in the U.S. are growing up without fathers at all. I have one, and a great one at that.

So no, not really a dad hater. Just wish there were more of them in this world. Might be a different place then.
 
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