2004 SEC Eastern Division Champs

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Just wanted to see what it looked like in print. And I do realize that "divisional" chamionships don't mean much but wouldn't Florida or Georgia like to be in our shoes?
 
#6
#6
The Tennessee media guide counts
1993 (tie w/ Fla. by virtue of Alabama forfeit... 6-1-1 to 7-1)
1997 vs Auburn in SECCG
1998 vs Miss St in SECCG
2001 vs LSU in SECCG
2003 (tie with Georgia and Florida)

and now...

2004 vs Auburn in SECCG
 
#8
#8
So it's 4 (97,98,01,04) since we lost the other two tie breakers (93,03)?

Or do Fla and UGA get to count 03 as well as UT? How did that tiebreaker play out?

As for 93, what tiebreakers were/are used?

I just wanna make sure so that when I'm talking to some gator or Bulldog I can cite the provisions of the tiebreaker.
 
#9
#9
Well, regardless of the tie with Alabama being forfeited in 1993 (both Florida and Tennessee finished 7-1 officially) Florida won the head-to-head contest 41-34.

However, in 2003, all tie-breakers were exhausted with no clear cut winner between Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia. Mid-season, the athletic directors changed the final tie-breaker.

Previously, the athletic directors at the non-participating schools voted on which team goes to the SECCG when the tie was not broken.

However, the mid-season change included using the BCS formula to decide the SECCG participant. But because Tennessee was rated higher than Georgia in the BCS at the time of the change, the "Tennessee" rule was included. The top ranking team in the BCS had to be 5 spots higher than the next team... if the next team were within 5 spots, then the 3rd highest team ranked (regardless if they are within 5 spots of the 1st place team) is eliminated... and then the head-to-head matchup of the top 2 teams is looked at.

Interestingly enough, had Florida beaten Florida State last season (a non-conference game deciding the SECCG participant?!?) .... they were projected to slide in front of Tennessee in the BCS within 5 spots of Georgia and go to the SECCG. Also, another non-conference game, Georgia-Ga Tech, could have put the Vols in the SECCG had Ga Tech won, regardless of the Fla-FlaSt outcome.

The week leading up to all 3 teams final games, Georgia was rated 7, Tennessee was rated 8, and Florida was rated 11. However, Georgia beat Ga Tech and stayed at 7... Tennessee beat Kentucky and dropped to 9... and Florida lost to Fla State and dropped to 14.

Regarding what is claimed.... Auburn claims to have won or tied for 4 of the last 5 Western Divisional Crowns. However, they have only been to the SECCG once in the last 5 seasons (2000).

In my opinion, the tie-breakers are used to decide the SECCG participant. All the schools will make a claim to at least a share of the SEC Divisional Crown if their is a tie. I don't think the SEC officially recognizes Divisional Champions, so each school spins it their own way for rings, banners, trophies, recruiting, etc.
 
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#10
Thanks AllVol. That's exactly what I needed.

I'll use 97,98,01,03,04 as my argument.

So how many SEC titles do we have?

I know we have 85, 97, & 98. I'm sure I'm mising a bunch elsewhere.
 
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1938, 1939, 1940, 1946, 1951, 1956, 1967, 1969, 1985, 1989, 1990, 1997, 1998

SEC Championships
Alabama 21
Tennessee 13
Georgia 11
LSU 9
Florida 6
Ole Miss 6
Auburn 5
Georgia Tech 5
Kentucky 2
Tulane 2
Miss State 1
Vanderbilt 0
Arkansas 0
South Carolina 0
Sewanee 0


SEC ALL-TIME FOOTBALL STANDINGS
1 Alabama 496 Games 329 Wins 147 Losses 20 Ties 0.683 Win Pct
2 Tennessee 455 Games 293 Wins 143 Losses 19 Ties 0.665 Win Pct
3 Georgia 456 Games 264 Wins 178 Losses 14 Ties 0.594 Win Pct
4 Florida 447 Games 246 Wins 186 Losses 15 Ties 0.567 Win Pct
5 LSU 460 Games 248 Wins 190 Losses 22 Ties 0.563 Win Pct
6 Auburn 475 Games 256 Wins 201 Losses 18 Ties 0.558 Win Pct
7 Ole Miss 450 Games 227 Wins 208 Losses 15 Ties 0.521 Win Pct
8 Arkansas 103 Games 48 Wins 53 Losses 2 Ties 0.476 Win Pct
9 South Carolina 104 Games 38 Wins 65 Losses 1 Ties 0.370 Win Pct
10 Mississippi State 460 Games 151 Wins 297 Losses 12 Ties 0.341 Win Pct
11 Kentucky 454 Games 138 Wins 304 Losses 12 Ties 0.317 Win Pct
12 Vanderbilt 463 Games 108 Wins 338 Losses 18 Ties 0.253 Win Pct
 
#13
#13
Interesting that with all the tradition that many SEC schools have, and the supposed lack thereof at UF before Saint Steve came home, UF has the 3rd highest winning %.

By no means am I becoming a UF apologist, but Florida being ranked so high in that category really jumped out at me.
 
#15
#15
Yep. Last time we won, we had the opportunity to get some, too, but turned them down.

I really don't see the point in getting rings for a divisional championship, honestly. Sure, it's nice, but it's only part of the real prize.
 
#16
#16
Divisional Championships don't mean squat. UT has been and always will be about SEC CHampionships of which UT has 5 since 1969. 2 under Fulmer and 3 under Majors Hmmmmm
 
#18
#18
Its amazing how much bama's program has declined over the past 10 or so years. They used to really dominate.
 
#20
#20
Pre-Spurrier UF's record was 148 - 166 - 15 .473 and 7th in the SEC circa before 1990 season.
UT also had only an 8 win lead on UGA and now its up to 29 and UT was 58 behind Bama now its only 36
 
#21
#21
Thanks to all of you for the stats. I had looked on the SEC website to try to decipher this, but they just list the records and not who actually won the conference. I missed 3 or 4 titles in all the confusion.
 
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