2005 SEC COACHES PRE-SEASON ALL-SEC FOOTBALL TEAM

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2005 SEC COACHES PRE-SEASON ALL-SEC FOOTBALL TEAM

(*-Ties / #-Unanimous Selection)
(Coaches could not vote for themselves or their own players)

Pos. Name School Ht. Wt. Cl. Hometown
FIRST-TEAM ALL-SEC -- OFFENSE
TE Leonard Pope Georgia 6-7 250 Jr. Americus, Ga.
OL #Marcus McNeill Auburn 6-9 337 Sr. Decatur, Ga.
OL Max Jean-Gilles Georgia 6-4 340 Sr. Miami, Fla.
OL Andrew Whitworth LSU 6-7 325 Sr. West Monroe, La.
OL *Randy Hand Florida 6-6 305 Sr. Fort Myers, Fla.
OL *Arron Sears Tennessee 6-4 338 Jr. Russellville, Ala.
C Mike Degory Florida 6-6 306 Sr. Palm Bay, Fla.
WR Andre Caldwell Florida 6-1 195 Jr. Tampa, Fla.
WR Courtney Taylor Auburn 6-2 204 Jr. Carrollton, Ga.
QB Jay Cutler Vanderbilt 6-4 225 Sr. Santa Claus, Ind.
RB Jerious Norwood Miss. State 6-0 202 Sr. Brandon, Miss.
RB Gerald Riggs, Jr. Tennessee 6-0 217 Sr. Chattanooga, Tenn.
SECOND-TEAM ALL-SEC -- OFFENSE
TE Cooper Wallace Auburn 6-4 265 Sr. Nashville, Tenn.
OL Tre' Stallings Ole Miss 6-4 317 Sr. Magnolia, Miss.
OL Cody Douglas Tennessee 6-4 330 Sr. LaMarque, Texas
OL Na'Shan Goddard South Carolina 6-5 313 Sr. Dayton, Ohio
OL Zac Tubbs Arkansas 6-6 358 Sr. Cullman, Ala.
C JB Closner Alabama 6-4 290 Sr. San Antonio, Texas
WR Marcus Monk Arkansas 6-6 224 So. Lepanto, Ark.
WR Dallas Baker Florida 6-3 205 Sr. N. Smyrna Beach, Fla.
QB Chris Leak Florida 6-0 195 Jr. Charlotte, N.C.
RB Kenneth Darby Alabama 5-11 205 Jr. Huntsville, Ala.
RB Alley Broussard LSU 6-0 233 Jr. Lafayette, La.
THIRD-TEAM ALL-SEC -- OFFENSE
TE Eric Butler Miss. State 6-2 246 So. Moss Point, Miss.
OL Rob Smith Tennessee 6-4 306 Jr. Fort Thomas, Ky.
OL Jabari Levey South Carolina 6-6 312 Sr. Moncks Corner, S.C.
OL Brian Anderson Miss. State 6-5 303 Jr. Butler, Ala.
OL *Bobby Harris Ole Miss 6-4 310 Sr. Decatur, Ga.
OL *Tavares Washington Florida 6-3 307 Sr. Greenville, Miss.
C Chris McNeil Miss. State 6-3 294 Sr. Petal, Miss.
WR Chad Jackson Florida 6-1 202 Jr. Hoover, Ala.
WR *Glenn Holt Kentucky 6-2 195 Sr. Opalocka, Fla.
WR *Ben Obomanu Auburn 6-1 198 Sr. Selma, Ala.
QB Brodie Croyle Alabama 6-3 205 Sr. Rainbow City, Ala.
RB Thomas Brown Georgia 5-8 183 So. Tucker, Ga.
RB Danny Ware Georgia 6-1 216 So. Rockmart, Ga.
FIRST-TEAM ALL-SEC -- DEFENSE
DL Stanley McClover Auburn 6-3 247 Jr. Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
DL Jesse Mahelona Tennessee 6-2 297 Sr. Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
DL McKinley Boykin Ole Miss 6-2 285 Sr. Bessemer, Ala.
LB DeMeco Ryans Alabama 6-2 232 Sr. Bessemer, Ala.
LB Travis Williams Auburn 6-1 207 Sr. Columbia, S.C.
LB Moses Osemwegie Vanderbilt 6-0 228 Sr. Nashville, Tenn.
LB Freddie Roach Alabama 6-2 239 Sr. Killen, Ala.
DB LaRon Landry LSU 6-2 187 Jr. Ama, La.
DB Jason Allen Tennessee 6-2 202 Sr. Muscle Shoals, Ala.
DB Ko Simpson South Carolina 6-1 199 So. Rock Hill, S.C.
DB *Greg Blue Georgia 6-2 214 Sr. College Park, Ga.
DB *Roman Harper Alabama 6-1 197 Sr. Prattville, Ala.
SECOND-TEAM ALL-SEC -- DEFENSE
DL Claude Wroten LSU 6-3 293 Sr. Bastrop, La.
DL Willie Evans Miss. State 6-2 259 Sr. Waynesboro, Miss.
DL Parys Haralson Tennessee 6-2 248 Sr. Flora, Miss.
LB Omar Gaither Tennessee 6-2 230 Sr. Charlotte, N.C.
LB Antarrious Williams Auburn 5-11 206 Sr. Columbus, Ga.
LB Earl Everett Florida 6-2 224 Jr. Webster, Fla.
LB Kevin Simon Tennessee 5-11 234 Sr. Walnut Creek, Calif.
DB Charlie Peprah Alabama 5-11 193 Sr. Plano, Texas
DB Jarvis Herring Florida 5-11 201 Jr. Opelika, Ala.
DB *Tim Jennings Georgia 5-8 178 Sr. Orangeburg, S.C.
DB *Demetrice Webb Florida 5-11 190 Jr. Jacksonville, Fla.
DB *Travis Johnson Ole Miss 6-1 191 Sr. Shannon, Miss.
DB *Muhammad Abdullah Kentucky 6-0 205 Sr. Folkston, Ga.
THIRD-TEAM ALL-SEC -- DEFENSE
DL Quentin Groves Auburn 6-3 245 So. Greenville, Miss.
DL Kyle Williams LSU 6-2 295 Sr. Ruston, La.
DL Kedric Golston Georgia 6-4 292 Sr. Tyrone, Ga.
LB Pierre Brown Arkansas 6-0 227 Sr. Birmingham, Ala.
LB Brandon Siler Florida 6-2 230 So. Orlando, Fla.
LB Quinton Culberson Miss. State 6-0 228 Jr. Jackson, Miss.
LB *Cameron Vaughn LSU 6-4 237 Sr. Terrytown, La.
LB *Patrick Willis Ole Miss 6-2 230 Jr. Bruceton, Tenn.
DB DeMario Minter Georgia 6-0 198 Sr. Stone Mountain, Ga.
DB Kevin Dockery Miss. State 5-10 185 Sr. Hernando, Miss.
DB *Trumaine McBride Ole Miss 5-10 180 Jr. Clarksdale, Miss.
DB *Anthony Madison Alabama 5-9 180 Sr. Thomasville, Ala.
DB *Ronnie Prude LSU 5-11 182 Sr. Shreveport, La.
FIRST-TEAM ALL-SEC -- SPECIAL TEAMS
PK John Vaughn Auburn 6-1 201 Jr. Brentwood, Tenn.
P Kody Bliss Auburn 5-11 177 Jr. Brentwood, Tenn.
RS Skyler Green LSU 5-10 195 Sr. Westwego, La.
SECOND-TEAM ALL-SEC -- SPECIAL TEAMS
PK James Wilhoit Tennessee 5-10 198 Jr. Hendersonville, Tenn.
P Eric Wilbur Florida 6-2 192 Jr. Winter Park, Fla.
RS Tyrone Prothro Alabama 5-8 176 Jr. Heflin, Ala.
THIRD-TEAM ALL-SEC -- SPECIAL TEAMS
PK *Josh Brown South Carolina 6-3 203 Sr. Clarksburg, Md.
PK *Taylor Begley Kentucky 6-0 200 Sr. Danville, Ky.
P Gordon Ely-Kelso Georgia 6-2 234 Jr. Athens, Ga.
RS Tre Smith Auburn 5-10 199 Jr. Venice, Fla.
 
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I don't see it either, but a lot of people are drooling over him. He's definitely got the brain and the size, but it's just hard to fathom that he'll put up anywhere near the numbers of Leak, Croyle or whoever we put at QB.
 
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He won't put up quite as good numbers, but the fact that he's been playing as well as he has at a school like Vanderbilt is pretty impressive. Makes you imagine what he could do at a school with even a decent team.
 
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I have heard all about Cutler for years but everytime I see him...he under-performs. But the reason for the under-performance, imo, was because of his mis-throws and inaccuracy at times.

Maybe it is me but I think people over-hype the Vandy effect. He doesn't have the OL or WR's as others but I also think he makes a LOT of mistakes
 
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I cant see Cutler 1st team either, UF had 11 guys on there, most in the conf :cool:, but all that matters is the post season standings, I also cant see how chad jackson is 3rd team, when hes our best WR, i wouldnt put baker or caldwell ahead of him....cutler sticks out the most though
 
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LSU was also coming off a NTL Championship season ;)

Either way, all that matters is the postseason standings. Preseasons cool, but id like to see this at the end of the season aswell (along with a rose bowl trophy lol)
 
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I have a dumb question. If I read that properly then a coach could not vote for his own player, but there is a unanimous selection from Auburn. It was Marcus McNeill. Did a certain coach from Auburn not vote, or did he go ahead and vote for his own player?

I usually don't put a lot of stock in pre-season polls, but all three qb's I thought were almost laughable. I probably would even go so far as to give Leak a little slack, but that is too much. I am convinced that Clausen or Ainge could beat the pants off of any one of them. At least could Coyle have a footnote that says, if he's healthy....

And finally my last point. I hope that all freshmen coaches didn't get to vote. I hardly expect they have a healthy apprieciation for SEC players.

Ok I am done. :shakehead:

 
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Originally posted by VolFantotheBone@Jul 20, 2005 5:10 PM
I have a dumb question.  If I read that properly then a coach could not vote for his own player, but there is a unanimous selection from Auburn.  It was Marcus McNeill.  Did a certain coach from Auburn not vote, or did he go ahead and vote for his own player?
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I'm guessing that means that they got 11 votes.

And I'm having a tough time believing the idea that Clausen is as good of a player, let alone better than Leak. Granted, I think Leak is overrated, but worse than Rick? Come on. Rick can direct the offense pretty well, but when you get right down to it, he doesn't have the skills to keep up.
 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Jul 20, 2005 10:10 PM
I'm guessing that means that they got 11 votes.

And I'm having a tough time believing the idea that Clausen is as good of a player, let alone better than Leak. Granted, I think Leak is overrated, but worse than Rick? Come on. Rick can direct the offense pretty well, but when you get right down to it, he doesn't have the skills to keep up.
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I think he's got the skills and the smarts, just not the arm.
 
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And I'm having a tough time believing the idea that Clausen is as good of a player, let alone better than Leak. Granted, I think Leak is overrated, but worse than Rick? Come on. Rick can direct the offense pretty well, but when you get right down to it, he doesn't have the skills to keep up.
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one. Since Eric has not gotten the starting position outright, I suspect that Claussen must have somethings going his way. I am a big Ainge fan, I think he will get the starting spot, but as you state, he (Cluassen) can direct the offense pretty well, which in my humble opinion, is much more than Leak. Plus Leak will be learning a new offense this year so he will be struggling to learn it, or, in the very least, use it effectively.

I guess it makes him (Claussen) like the Boomer Esiason of NCAA football (I can imagine everyone in the thread throwing beer cans at me). Boomer was not so great as a true athlete, but he could pick a part a defense like no other. And that skill alone made him an effective quarterback, which is more than Leak can say. Mark my words, Leak will be more worried about checking that his offense is right, than what the defense is doing. :twocents:
 
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My honest opinion is that Fulmer is naming them "co-starters" for now as a means to throw a curve ball to our opponnents, much the same like we did with Schaeffer and Ainge last season.

Clausen's lack of throwing ability would mostly rule out the passing game, but since he can direct the offense well, he would probably manage to put Riggs in the right spot for big yards. Playing Clausen = running game

Starting Ainge means utilization of his arm strength which means they know we will leaning a bit more towards the pass. Ainge = passing game

Fulmer probably knows darned well who the starter will be for the games, he's just not gonna say, which is the right decision. Keeps our opponnents from knowing how to defend, which is the thing that won us many of our games last season.
 
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You could be right. It may be a ploy. I kinda like the double whammy that the right/left qbs can throw at defenses. As a I stated before, I suspect Ainge will be the starter, and I suspect all of our opponents believe he will be the starter as well. I just want to point out one more thing. Here are the official stats for passing last year.

PASSING GP Effic Att-Cmp-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
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Erik Ainge 9 135.89 198-109-9 55.1 1452 17 60 161.3
Rick Clausen 7 130.23 136-81-5 59.6 949 8 57 135.6
Brent Schaeffer 8 129.64 37-18-1 48.6 302 2 55 37.8

(I tried to line up the columns)

It comes out to about 12.1 completions per game for Ainge and 11.5 for Clausen. Yes Ainge is getting about 26 yards per game more yardage, but there is only a 3 yard difference on the longest completed pass. So overall Ainge is better, which I don't think there was any doubt, but I think this shows that Clausen's arm isn't exactly worthless, and he can pass. He even has a higher completion percentage.

I wanted to compare Leak with Ainge/Clausen, but I just don't think it would be a fair comparison, since Leak didn't share time and Ainge shared time with Schaeffer and Clausen didn't play anywhere near a full year, and he also shared some time.

 
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Clausen's stats are inflated, IMO. Ainge would have had a rating of 180 if three of his only four games constituted some of the worst pass defense in the country.
 
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I completely agree. KY, Vandy are certainly not Florida, Georgia or Alabama, and as you pointed out earlier, statistically speaking Claussen's offense ran the ball more. The biggest point I was making is that the longest pass was only 3 yards difference. Conversly Clausen didn't get nearly the practice snaps that Ainge got, or the practice time. He went into the Notre Dame game cold. My big question is I wonder what Clausen would have done, if he was in Leak's shoes. I know this is big time iffy history, but in my humble opinion, I think Clausen would have done better. You obviously don't see it my way, but it is just how I feel. Maybe tomorrow I can drum up some stats. Have a good night!
 
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Originally posted by VolFantotheBone@Jul 20, 2005 6:10 PM
I have a dumb question.  If I read that properly then a coach could not vote for his own player, but there is a unanimous selection from Auburn.  It was Marcus McNeill.  Did a certain coach from Auburn not vote, or did he go ahead and vote for his own player?

I usually don't put a lot of stock in pre-season polls, but all three qb's I thought were almost laughable.  I probably would even go so far as to give Leak a little slack, but that is too much.  I am convinced that Clausen or Ainge could beat the pants off of any one of them.  At least could Coyle have a footnote that says, if he's healthy....

And finally my last point.  I hope that all freshmen coaches didn't get to vote.  I hardly expect they have a healthy apprieciation for SEC players.

Ok I am done.  :shakehead:
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So let me get this straight. You think UT's Back-up QB, who has seen limited to any playing time over his career, is better then the SEC's passing leader? Oh yeah, that was his soph. season, most dont get their chance to get to start until their jr. year, or in Clausen's case, never. Leak threw for 3000+ yds and almost 30 tds last year, what did clausen do? Didnt even get to 1k and only had 8 tds coupled with 5 ints. Come on, I know youre smarter then that. Leak should be 1st team all-sec. I can atleast see where youre coming from with ainge, a guy who started his frosh season (like leak) and did well, won games. But that has gotta be one of the most idiotic things ive read on this board, or anywhere for that matter. Rick Clausen better then Chris Leak...... :eek:lol:
 
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He's not an idiot . . . he's just got Rick Clausen Fever!! It's been going around since the Cotton Bowl. :D
 
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Thanks for the vote of confidence GA Vol. ;) But I don't think it is a fever, because I did say Ainge was better than Clausen. Anyway on to GatorVille's post. Do you honestly think that by throwing up stats you are going to make me have a eureka moment and say, "Oh he's right"? Well I am sorry, it isn't going to happen. Because my friend, you can't compare the stats. Full season/7 games. Sure you could look at similar games, defenses etc... (must not have kept reading my earlier posts) But unfortunately Tennessee didn't have the privilege of playing Mississippi State, Kentucky, Vandy all in the same year. At least you guys won 2 out of 3. Anyway if Rick didn't sit out for a year because of the transfer from LSU things might be different. But really it is an opinion. I may not be a very popular one, but it is one I am sticking with. So with that being said. :moon2:

On a side note, I was reading somewhere where somebody posted in thread the message:

UF was very good before SOS.
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Not sure who that was, but I thought that was an idiotic statement too, but I was nicer than some people. Oh wait, that was you wasn't it. :devilsmoke:
 
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Hmmm, dont you think theres a reason Clausen didnt start last year? Oh yeah, the smart thing to do would be to put one of the "best qbs in the sec" on the bench, my bad.


And if youll look up standings and what not with final polls, UF wasnt horrible like you guys make them out to be. They werent great, but they were a solid team for some years before probation.
 
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You're right . . . if Clausen was the best QB last year, he would have started, but he did play extremely well last year, especially in the Cotton Bowl.

How'd Chris Leak's bowl experience go last year? :D
 
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IF. hes not even the best qb on his own team how can you guys say hes the best in the conf.?

:) Lets not go there GA, with a coaching shake up and what not, plus im not sure our guys were there to play, he struggled, but ill still take leaks season of ricks any day of the year
 
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I know, I know. I can't even argue this with a straight face. :lol:

Leak should have gotten the nod, but I think we've seen that Leak's numbers are the least of Florida's concerns.
 
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