2012 Spring Meetings

#4
#4
ah, i'm sure it will be interesting what teams they'd like for the next round of expansion.
 
#6
#6
ah, i'm sure it will be interesting what teams they'd like for the next round of expansion.

They won't be talking about that, and if they even did, they'd make sure the likes of us didn't know about it.


The main things on the table are likely 1) determining how the conference plans to for future football scheduling (i.e. 8 vs 9 games, any cross-divisional changes, etc - this year's was really more of a 1 year solution), 2) scheduling format for future basketball seasons, and 3) likely lots of discussion on the conference's full standing/position on the "four-team playoff" issue



Expansion, more than likely, will only come up as more of a "discussing the current college landscape" kind of thing than a "who are we going to get next"
 
#7
#7
Right, the spring meetings are between the commissioner and all the presidents, ADs, and coaches of the SEC member schools.


Apparently the meetings are still in Destin, FL (as usual), but they are next week, not this one.
 
#8
#8
They need to decide how to structure the men's and women's conference basketball tournaments. I have seen nothing on that.
 
#9
#9
They need to decide how to structure the men's and women's conference basketball tournaments. I have seen nothing on that.

The basketball tournament format has already been decided and forwarded to the schools. Adding a extra day with two games, 11-14 and 12-13 seeds on the front end of each tournament.
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#10
#10
The basketball tournament format has already been decided and forwarded to the schools. Adding a extra day with two games, 11-14 and 12-13 seeds on the front end of each tournament.
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So, they're sticking with the format that has existed for 12 teams and are going to make the bottom four teams win a play-in game on Wednesday to get there. So, if you're 11-14, you now need 5 wins. If you're 3rd or 4th, you still get a bye to the quarters.

I'm not a big fan of that, honestly. I don't like the Big East format for 16 teams, of 8 teams needing 5 wins and 4 of the teams needing 3 wins. I don't like "double byes." It appears that's what the SEC will do if they eventually have 16 teams.

Where did you read this, DeerPark?

Also, I hope they don't expect everyone to pay extra for the tournament book, since there's two more games. I doubt most people will take off an extra day of work to get into town for those games. The price of this tournament has increased a lot over the past five years or so. I wonder what they will charge now.
 
#11
#11
What to Expect at the SEC's Spring Meetings

Just a few quick thoughts on what we at MrSEC.com expect to from this week’s SEC Meetings in Destin:



Playoff Plan

Mike Slive and his fellow presidents will hammer out the league’s official proposal for the new college football playoff that is supposedly coming everyone’s way after the 2014 regular season. The SEC will no doubt support a simple 1-2-3-4 system that invites the nation’s top-ranked teams, but with Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott and Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman both recently saying a true Plus-One might be back on the table, the SEC will need to have a compromised plan that it can fall back upon. At worst, the SEC will probably push for a plan that would include the three highest-ranked conference champs and a wild card team. If the four highest-ranked teams are all conference champs, then the lowest rated of those champs would be considered the wild card.

The other main issues will be whether or not — and how — existing bowl games can be worked into the new playoff system.



Football Schedule

Word is there’s very little support outside LSU and South Carolina for doing away with permanent cross-divisional rivals. Missouri was hoping to keep hold of Texas A&M for the purpose of recruiting Texas, but the presidents at A&M and Carolina have publicly leaked that their schools are likely to become permanent foes instead, leaving Missouri with nearest neighbor Arkansas.

When all’s said and done, we expect the SEC to adopt a 6-1-1 plan that would require each school to face the others in its division, one permanent cross-division foe, and one rotating cross-division foe each season. In an effort to let SEC teams — ya know — actually play one another on a semi-regular basis, we’d put cash on a plan that would rotate those foes once every year rather than once every two years. In other words, Georgia might not travel to Alabama but once every 12 years, but at least the schools would be guaranteed of playing once every six somewhere.



Basketball Schedule

The SEC is expected to maintain a division-less set-up in its new scheduling format. It’s also expected that the league will go to an 18-game schedule (much to John Calipari’s chagrin). The easiest route would be for each league team to play five conference rivals (some permanent, some rotating) twice each season and then the remaining eight league schools once each (which would give everyone nine home and nine road games).

But there are rumblings that the league will rotate many more opponents than necessary — even narrowing permanent rivals down to one per school — which would be a monumental, tradition-killing mistake.



Rotation Length

The SEC would like to lock in its new scheduling format for 12 years, but it may be a shorter span gets the final nod. With so much yet to be determined on the expansion and television fronts, it’s possible the league doesn’t lock itself in for such a long period of time.

That said, schedules can always change whether they’re “locked in” or not. For that reason, we’d be a bit surprised if the league didn’t say “12 years, locked in” just to send a message of stability, if nothing else.



Basketball Tournament

Head of the SEC transition team, Larry Templeton, has already said that all 14 schools will take part in this coming season’s hoops tourney. The plan is for Seed #11 to play Seed #14 and Seed #12 to play Seed #13 on Wednesday night, leading into the normal tourney as it’s now played on Thursday. We see no reason to believe any last-minute changes will be made on that front.



Television Negotiations

Mike Slive will update all involved on the state of the league’s ongoing negotiations with ESPN and CBS. Those ESPN talks will include discussion of a potential SEC Network launched in partnership with the four-letter channel.

CBS is reportedly balking at paying huge rights increases to the SEC for its additions of Missouri and Texas A&M, but we believe that to be posturing. The network wants better games to choose from and for that reason — we hold out hope — Slive and the league’s presidents could step in at the last minute and push for a nine-game conference schedule in football.



Expansion and Realignment

There’s no way the current landscape of college football won’t come up for discussion. The SEC needs to be making contingency plans in the event of mass shuffling elsewhere. Could the league decide to make a move for Florida State, a school that clearly wants in Slive’s league more than the Big 12 (their trustees mention the SEC on a regular basis)? Will the SEC set its eyes instead on Virginia Tech and a North Carolina school? Doing so would likely be tied to the potential SEC Network mentioned earlier (new states = new cable households = more money).

Expect more people in the league to be cool on expansion so soon after the addition of Mizzou and A&M. No one knows what impact those moves will have on the league’s value, income or on-field/on-court success moving forward. And for schools with smaller budgets and tougher climbs to the top of the SEC heap, every team added makes their work harder.



Deciding Division Champions

Last year Steve Spurrier hatched a plan to pay some football players a per-game stipend right out of coaches’ pockets. That idea got the kibosh pretty quickly. This year he’s campaigned for cross-division games to be excluded from the league’s standings and he’ll bring it up for discussion at this week’s meetings. (Good luck asking CBS and ESPN for more money in those TV negotiations if the league sticks with just an eight-game slate and then renders a fourth of those games meaningless.)

Les Miles and James Franklin have surprisingly backed Spurrier’s plan. Miles, well, he’s a bit kooky so that shouldn’t surprise anyone. Franklin, however, might be giving us a glimpse into the thinking of several other football coaches. If you’re the coach at Vandy or Ole Miss or Kentucky or Mississippi State, etc, would you feel you had a better chance of reaching Atlanta with what would amount to a six-game schedule as opposed to an eight-game schedule? Darn skippy, you would.

But even if Spurrier gets the backing of folks wanting an easier path to a title, it would be shocking for the nation’s most powerful commissioner and his presidents to not overrule their coaches on a move that would hurt the SEC in the wallet (television negotiations) and in terms of credibility (name another league that doesn’t count its own league games in the standings).



Cowbells

Mississippi State AD Scott Stricklin says he’s heard very little talk about his school’s beloved cowbells going into this year’s meetings. That hasn’t been the case the last two years. Still, the league is expected to once again discuss artificial noisemakers as well as whether or not State fans have been ringing their bells at the appropriate times (during stoppages of play).

We’re betting the bells will get another stay of execution.
 
#13
#13
Telling you guys, a straight 1-2-3-4 is NOT happening.

Personally, I don't think so either, but I wouldn't be surprised if that were to be the (voted) stance of the conference at the meeting's end. Maybe more important might be what back up proposal the conference agrees upon if this come to a halt (which of course, it more than likely is going to)
 
#14
#14
I would be surprised if that's what they settled on as the number one choice. They're smart guys, they ought to know a snowball has a better chance in hell.
 
#15
#15
So, they're sticking with the format that has existed for 12 teams and are going to make the bottom four teams win a play-in game on Wednesday to get there. So, if you're 11-14, you now need 5 wins. If you're 3rd or 4th, you still get a bye to the quarters.

I'm not a big fan of that, honestly. I don't like the Big East format for 16 teams, of 8 teams needing 5 wins and 4 of the teams needing 3 wins. I don't like "double byes." It appears that's what the SEC will do if they eventually have 16 teams.

Where did you read this, DeerPark?

Also, I hope they don't expect everyone to pay extra for the tournament book, since there's two more games. I doubt most people will take off an extra day of work to get into town for those games. The price of this tournament has increased a lot over the past five years or so. I wonder what they will charge now.

The basketball plan was developed at the AD meetings at the women's bball tournament in March. It was formally approved by the Presidents in Destin, but the arenas had already been reserved and the format for every sports's tournament was sent to the schools a couple of months ago. Soccer and softball will be using a similar format, althought with 10 qualifiers instead of all 14 (8 previously qualified).
 

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