2013 Oregon

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mitzustu

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Interested in getting info on how their outlook is for next year. How their roster will look etc.
 
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I'm not sure many could describe UT's 2013 roster with much accuracy so asking about Oregon's may be a little tough
 
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You can almost bank on them being very, very good and us being 21 point underdogs. That's all I need to know I guess
 
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I root for USC and Tennessee, so it should be evident just how badly I want UT to win. Having said that, UT's not just gonna lose, but lose huge--made worse by not having #8,#21 and #11. I know fans don't want to hear negative talk this far out, but it's just a fact those guys will be even better next year: their QB will be 3years into that system and their superstar DeAnthony Thomas will be a Jr on his way to NYC.

Wouldn't be shocked if the Vols were only down 7 at halftime, but in the late 3rd and 4th, they'll go into afterburners and pull away.
 
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Too many ifs and buts to give an accurate answer to what will happen next season
 
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Shaun1985 said:
You can almost bank on them being very, very good and us being 21 point underdogs. That's all I need to know I guess
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Eh, we'll see. If Dooley is a viable coach he will have a good season this year and expect a solid mix of freshman and more JUCO talent to strengthen the 2013 campaign.

If Dooley ends up being a horrible coach, expect a coaching change, attrition, defections, and a poor recruiting class.

If it's the first scenario i.e. 8-9 wins, UT will be at it's strongest since 2007 when we finished 12th in the BCS.
 
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HOLLYWOOD KOBE said:
I root for USC and Tennessee, so it should be evident just how badly I want UT to win. Having said that, UT's not just gonna lose, but lose huge--made worse by not having #8,#21 and #11. I know fans don't want to hear negative talk this far out, but it's just a fact those guys will be even better next year: their QB will be 3years into that system and their superstar DeAnthony Thomas will be a Jr on his way to NYC.

Wouldn't be shocked if the Vols were only down 7 at halftime, but in the late 3rd and 4th, they'll go into afterburners and pull away.
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Pac 12 homer overrating his weak conference in the house!
 
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sanddune50 said:
Eh, we'll see. If Dooley is a viable coach he will have a good season this year and expect a solid mix of freshman and more JUCO talent to strengthen the 2013 campaign.

If Dooley ends up being a horrible coach, expect a coaching change, attrition, defections, and a poor recruiting class.

If it's the first scenario i.e. 8-9 wins, UT will be at it's strongest since 2007 when we finished 12th in the BCS.
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Why?

Look at the 2010 class. It finished rather well considering the coaching change.

Too many people think changing the head coach automatically equals 3 bad years.

Look at LSU when Miles got hired, Chizik at Auburn or Saban at Bama, Richt at UGA or Meyer at UF.

They all hit the ground running, took a few lumps in year one and in year two were in the National Title picture.
 
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Maybe they'll get hit with sanctions this year haha. I'm sure watching them this year will help my question.
 
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HOLLYWOOD KOBE said:
Didn't UT lose the following games to Pac-12 teams recently?

'07 Cal
'08 UCLA
'09 UCLA
'10 Oregon
'13 Oregon (high probability)

'06 Cal was a solid win for UT though.
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Great argument, past games which include recruiting classes no longer with the team are great indicators of future games. Other than the '07 Cal game beating a team that is a notch below .500 in the last few seasons is nothing to brag about.

And listing 2013 as a 'high probability' win confirms what I said about you being a Pac 2 homer.

By the way, here's a nice stat for you, before those games Tennessee was 14-10-3 all-time against the Pac 10. May as well look at every game as opposed to the one's you cherry picked.
 
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sanddune50 said:
By the way, here's a nice stat for you, before those games Tennessee was 14-10-3 all-time against the Pac 10. May as well look at every game as opposed to the one's you cherry picked.
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look out, our "USC fan" may pull out the 1940 Rose Bowl on you
 
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justingroves said:
Why?

Look at the 2010 class. It finished rather well considering the coaching change.

Too many people think changing the head coach automatically equals 3 bad years.

Look at LSU when Miles got hired, Chizik at Auburn or Saban at Bama, Richt at UGA or Meyer at UF.

They all hit the ground running, took a few lumps in year one and in year two were in the National Title picture.
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Miles is a bad example due to Saban handing that team over while LSU was at a championship level.

As for the other three guys, you have to factor in, did any of those programs have 3 coaches in 3 years? Dooley getting canned would mean we would have our 4th coach in 6 years. Not exactly screaming stability.
 
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sanddune50 said:
Great argument, past games which include recruiting classes no longer with the team are great indicators of future games. Other than the '07 Cal game beating a team that is a notch below .500 in the last few seasons is nothing to brag about.

And listing 2013 as a 'high probability' win confirms what I said about you being a Pac 2 homer.

By the way, here's a nice stat for you, before those games Tennessee was 14-10-3 all-time against the Pac 10. May as well look at every game as opposed to the one's you cherry picked.
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Bro, I'm not trying to stir up an argument. You're the one who lead off with an ad hominem attack and when I respond your point is baseless you try to toss out excuses for those Fulmer squads, as if it was the Pac-12's fault UT was in a down period...

Is the SEC a better conference than the Pac-12? No doubt about it. But when you look at the record, you'll notice the SEC doesn't win every single game they play.

And I'm sticking to my '13 prediction--I don't even think USC can beat them this year with more statistical firepower than our record-setting '05 team. Asking me a bout a Vol team without the big-3, bringing a first year starter into Auzten to face, at worst, a top-5 preseason team that utilizes an O that averages 40ppg and has lost a handful of home games the last decade...I mean, what do think is going to happen? Oregon is USC's Florida/Bama so I'd love for UT to go in there and shock them, like '06 Cal...just don't see it...would be glad to eat eat crow.
 
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Dbake005 said:
If everyone comes back, we will beat Oregon.
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No chance. That one poster who has reliable info already said Da'Rick is one foot out the door and Justin had to take classes this summer just to stay eligible, toss in the fact he's a new dad coming off a devastating injury...this won't be close.

The new rookie cap makes it irrelevant for Bray to return; it's all about earning that 2nd contract now. To put it another way, Ponder--a guy who would normally go in the 5th--went in the top 10. Hell, Bray may go #1 overall this year if all goes well.
 
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sanddune50 said:
Miles is a bad example due to Saban handing that team over while LSU was at a championship level.

As for the other three guys, you have to factor in, did any of those programs have 3 coaches in 3 years? Dooley getting canned would mean we would have our 4th coach in 6 years. Not exactly screaming stability.
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Neither is replacing 8 assistants in two years
 
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HOLLYWOOD KOBE said:
Bro, I'm not trying to stir up an argument. You're the one who lead off with an ad hominem attack and when I respond your point is baseless you try to toss out excuses for those Fulmer squads, as if it was the Pac-12's fault UT was in a down period...

Is the SEC a better conference than the Pac-12? No doubt about it. But when you look at the record, you'll notice the SEC doesn't win every single game they play.

And I'm sticking to my '13 prediction--I don't even think USC can beat them this year with more statistical firepower than our record-setting '05 team. Asking me a bout a Vol team without the big-3, bringing a first year starter into Auzten to face, at worst, a top-5 preseason team that utilizes an O that averages 40ppg and has lost a handful of home games the last decade...I mean, what do think is going to happen? Oregon is USC's Florida/Bama so I'd love for UT to go in there and shock them, like '06 Cal...just don't see it...would be glad to eat eat crow.
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That's fine. You're entitled to your opinion. I just find it silly to predict a 2013 game when one down of 2012 has yet to be played. You're speculating that UT's big 3 will be NFL bound. The odds are in your favor that you are probably right, but it is still not a guarantee. Not to mention does Oregon not graduate some players? Will there not be some guys who leave early for the NFL from their team?

Chip Kelly has built a winning program up in Eugene. But truth is, defense is not at a premium in your conference. The reason the season is killing it right now in football is due to our conference by in large having the best defenses in CFB.

That game is not even on Tennessee's radar yet, but with that being said, to act like Tennessee's typical program is what you presented with that series of games you pointed out is not knowing a lot about the program. And the 2006 Cal game was more of a surprise for ESPN 'experts' moreso than anyone in the South.
 
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HOLLYWOOD KOBE said:
No chance. That one poster who has reliable info already said Da'Rick is one foot out the door and Justin had to take classes this summer just to stay eligible, toss in the fact he's a new dad coming off a devastating injury...this won't be close.

The new rookie cap makes it irrelevant for Bray to return; it's all about earning that 2nd contract now. To put it another way, Ponder--a guy who would normally go in the 5th--went in the top 10. Hell, Bray may go #1 overall this year if all goes well.
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He won't go number one overall. It wouldn't shock me if Da'Rick and Hunter left. We could still have a chance.

Oh well. Too far away to worry about. Could be an awesome game. Enjoy the discussion.
 
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We have arguably the best defensive unit this year since Chip has been coach. We loose Barner after this year which is big but gain several RB's including Thomas Tyner. I'm hearing Bralon Addison who came in this year as a WR/RB has been stellar in practice and is similar to De Thomas in play making ability. Our OL remains mostly in tact next year which is a strong unit.
 
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