2014 Recruiting Class

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I went over the 2014 recruiting class tonight...and well I thought it was interesting to look at the results. Tennessee had 32 enrollees and finished #7 on 247 sports in the class. I decided to go through each player and give them a ranking of 1-5 based on how they turned out. Obviously, the 2014 class isn't completely finished but it feels like we have a good idea of where everyone is.

5- NFL Player
4- Starter
3- 2 Deep Player
2- Contributor (special teams, role player)
1- Attrition

I went by 247 sports individual rankings for that class.

WR Josh Malone-5 Two year starter, drafted by the Cincinnati Bengals and had an excellent junior year. Disappointment the first two years, but definitely lived up to his ranking.

RB Jalen Hurd- 4 So yes, he's attrition. But if you told me that Hurd would 3,100 scrimmage yards and 26 TD's in three years, I would have easily taken that. I'm going to mark this up as a 4.

Todd Kelly Jr- 4 I am not sure what Kelly's NFL prospects are at this point, but he's been a major defensive player since day one and will be a two-year starter. With a better 2017, this can be a 5.

Dillon Bates- 2 If Bates was a mid three-star player and was not a legacy, I think people would be perfectly fine with his career. He's played decently at linebacker and is a good special teams player, but he looks like someone who will be career depth.

Dewayne Hendrix- 1 Hendrix looked like he had a bright future at Tennessee, but got passed over and transferred to Pittsburgh. I believe he was injured last year and didn't play.

Derrell Scott- 1 Another attrition guy that got in trouble at Tennessee and never really got a chance. Transferred to East Carolina.

Von Pearson- 4 Pearson had a really good junior year and was derailed by an unfortunate situation his senior year. I am very surprised an NFL team has not given him a shot.

Cortez McDowell- 3.5 I'm cheating here because this is my scoring system and McDowell hasn't locked up a full time starting job yet. He will most likely be a 4 at the end of the year and maybe a five. I think he's going to have a great 2017 season.

Daniel Helm- 1 Lost the starting job to Ethan Wolf, never fit into the culture at Tennessee and is the starter at Duke. Would be nice to have him here.

Derek Barnett- 5 Yeah, I'd say he was pretty good.

Dontavius Blair- 1 Yeah, that didn't go well.

D'Andre Payne- 1 Man, I was really excited that he would be the long term guy at nickel. He actually had a good year at Iowa State. He was voted newcomer of the year in 2016 and is the starting nickel there.

Gavin Bryant- 1 I had trouble finding out where he ended up. I was really excited when he committed and he actually was a good special teams player. But wasn't a SEC linebacker

Chris Weatherd- 3 I thought he was underused here at Tennessee. Loved his pass rushing ability and also played special teams.

Charles Mosley- 1 This shouldn't even count. He never had a chance after his car wreck. Unfortunate.

Evan Berry- 4 One of the best returners in Tennessee history, he's a nice depth option at safety and I think will be an NFL player just for his returning abilities.

Ethan Wolf- 5 He's not in the NFL but he's going to be a four-year starter and will most likely get drafted in 2018. He's a good blocker and solid pass catcher.

Michael Sawyers- 1 Trouble from the start and never panned out.

Joe Henderson- 1 I don't think he ever played a down at Tennessee.

Rashaan Gaulden- 4 Good nickel cornerback and actually better than I thought he would be. I don't know if he will get drafted but still has two years at Tennessee.

Treyvon Paulk- 1 Never was a factor at Tennessee.

Vic Wharton- 1 Played his freshman year, but transferred to Cal after not fitting in at Tennessee. Had a pretty good year at Cal too.

Jashon Robertson-5 Same thing here as with Ethan Wolf. Four-year starter, most likely an NFL player if he can stay healthy.

Dimarya Mixon- 3 He counts as attrition, but he was a contributor here for three years. So kind of like Jalen Hurd, I'm going to make an exception.

Coleman Thomas- 4 I don't know if he is going to be the starter at center this year, but I feel like he's worthy of a 4 because he has almost two years of starts under his belt. At the very least, he's a high 3.

Neiko Creamer- 1 Never found a position and got lost in the shuffle at Tennessee.

Jakob Johnson- 2 Personal feelings, I felt he never should have been moved to offense and redshirted in 2015. But he's a great kid, good special teams player, and I hope he can contribute at TE this year.

Elliot Berry- 3 I don't believe he will start this year and he struggled last year, but still is nice depth at the position and play special teams.

Ray Raulerson- 1 Got lost in the shuffle and transferred.

Emmanuel Moseley- 3 Chance to be a 4 or a 5 depending on how his senior year to go. He's regressed in 2016, but still. Considering where his ranking was I think this can be a win for the staff.

Owen Williams- 4 Had a really good 2015 year as a starter. Really good JUCO get by the staff.

Aaron Medley- 4 He's not special at the position, but he gets the job done.
 
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thats a pretty good break down..I cant find any evaluation of a player that I disagree with
 
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I understand that attrition is part of the process, and kids who don't pan out here may still be able to find success elsewhere. That said, I see a rather disturbing number of 1's on that list. I remember how excited everyone was when a number of those guys committed, and it's crazy to think that we never got production out of that much talent. Oh well, thanks for the write up!
 
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So the tallies are as follows (I rounded the 3.5 to 4)

5- NFL Player = 4
4- Starter = 9
3- 2 Deep Player = 4
2- Contributor (special teams, role player) = 2
1- Attrition = 13
 
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I understand that attrition is part of the process, and kids who don't pan out here may still be able to find success elsewhere. That said, I see a rather disturbing number of 1's on that list. I remember how excited everyone was when a number of those guys committed, and it's crazy to think that we never got production out of that much talent. Oh well, thanks for the write up!

Attrition happens. When you sign 35 guys, more attrition is gonna happen. Could have told you that in February 2014 when they signed.

Attrition is expected and sometimes encouraged for the health of the program.
 
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I think you've got Paulk and Scott confused.

Paulk was kicked out for punching a girl.


Scott just wasn't any good.
 
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14 if you count Hurd. That's about 44%. I have no clue if that's normal or not. Sounds like a lot though...comments ? (Like I have to ask...)
 
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So the tallies are as follows (I rounded the 3.5 to 4)

5- NFL Player = 4
4- Starter = 9
3- 2 Deep Player = 4
2- Contributor (special teams, role player) = 2
1- Attrition = 13

People focus too much on the "attrition = 13" part.

What matters is that we got 4 NFL players, 9 starters, 4 depth guys and 2 teams contributors. 19 guys contributing out of a class is a great class.

The 13 number doesn't mean anything. If that number was 100 and we still get 19 guys that fall into the other category we are doing well.
 
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Ethan wolf and DB just can't have the same ranking

Other than that good write up
 
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14 if you count Hurd. That's about 44%. I have no clue if that's normal or not. Sounds like a lot though...comments ? (Like I have to ask...)

You can sign 25 each year. You can redshirt. So that's 125 possible signees at any given time. You can only have 85 schollies.

So you should expect to have 8 a year regardless. In years where a new coach is in and you sign a monster class like this 13 isn't bad at all. With 32 coming in at once it's bound to happen where some don't like where they shake out and move on
 
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You can sign 25 each year. You can redshirt. So that's 125 possible signees at any given time. You can only have 85 schollies.

So you should expect to have 8 a year regardless. In years where a new coach is in and you sign a monster class like this 13 isn't bad at all. With 32 coming in at once it's bound to happen where some don't like where they shake out and move on

This. So much this. People freak every time we lose a guy, but it's both necessary and healthy. You simply cannot have a class of 32 all stay. That's more than a third of your entire roster in one class. The roster needs to be far more evenly distributed than that.
 
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Attrition happens. When you sign 35 guys, more attrition is gonna happen. Could have told you that in February 2014 when they signed.

Attrition is expected and sometimes encouraged for the health of the program.

This.

Higher class numbers always have more attrition at any and all programs. You look at a kid like Robertson that most people thought would a filler and never amount to more than depth. Each kid you take is a chance to develop them into something. Five star kids of course are more likely to pan out. The more kids you take though within a time period, the more competition, the more kids are going to get upset and transfer. It's natural, it's healthy for the most part especially for a program that was so low on quality SEC players like we were when Butch came in as coach.
 
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I understand that attrition is part of the process, and kids who don't pan out here may still be able to find success elsewhere. That said, I see a rather disturbing number of 1's on that list. I remember how excited everyone was when a number of those guys committed, and it's crazy to think that we never got production out of that much talent. Oh well, thanks for the write up!

When you sign 32, it's inevitable that guys will leave. Just as Bama does it, you sign a bunch of good players and see what you have. Then, you sign even more good players the next year, and it forces guys to leave.

Everyone looks at it differently. 13/32= 40% attrition. 17/32= 53% in the 2 deep with most as solid contributors. That means 17 of your 44 in two deep are from one class, which is quite a bit. Seems like it was all or nothing.
 
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Wasn't Paulk the rb that punched his girlfriend at a team party, and Butch immediately dismissed him?
 
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No way you count Hurd as attrition. He almost broke the school rushing record.

He did and I'm really glad he didn't he doesn't deserve that honor. And what's crazy is he had a career average of 79 rushing yards a game which really isn't a lot for a starting RB. But they play more games a yr in this era and it's much easier to break records that were made 10,15 and 20 yrs ago. Imagine the yards Peyton would have had playing 13-15 games a year. Not to mention they didn't count bowl stats as part of your yearly and career stats like they do now. At some point I would imagine pretty much all records will get broken in this era of college football.
 
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He did and I'm really glad he didn't he doesn't deserve that honor. And what's crazy is he had a career average of 79 rushing yards a game which really isn't a lot for a starting RB. But they play more games a yr in this era and it's much easier to break records that were made 10,15 and 20 yrs ago. Imagine the yards Peyton would have had playing 13-15 games a year. Not to mention they didn't count bowl stats as part of your yearly and career stats like they do now. At some point I would imagine pretty much all records will get broken in this era of college football.

Actually he played about the same amount as Henry, Foster, and others that are up there. He was just literally force fed the ball. Dude had like 80-150 or so (probably off, but you get the picture) more ALREADY than the leading rusher. We did A LOT of run 1st, 2nd, and 3rds lol
 
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Back then we also had talented backups, so we didn't need to force feed the only good RB we had. Hurd got force fed his freshman-sophomorr years
 

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