2020 Presidential Race

[USAFgolferVol]

So no Scotland I guess.

Mar-a-lago residents don't want him

 

[luthervol]

They do know.

 

[carlos86]

It's ok, he'll just go to the UK

UK is on lockdown for a month.

 

[carlos86]

 

[Velo Vol]

Sure, Jan.

Fun day for Pence tomorrow.

 

[tnmarktx]

Sure, Jan.

Fun day for Pence tomorrow.

The VP definitely does not have the power to pick alternate electors. If he does this, it will go to the courts.

 

[Velo Vol]

The VP definitely does not have the power to pick alternate electors. If he does this, it will go to the courts.

Pence gets rewarded for four years of loyalty by Trump falsely setting him up to be the bad guy. Nice.

 

[1972 Grad]

Yeah, he gave them a half ass shout out. Even let Kelly and Ivanka speak for a bit. But come on, you know like 95% of that rally was about Trump.

and............?

 

[BowlBrother85]

He praised Perdue for his help in getting money to Georgians impacted by Hurricane Michael and Loeffler for helping get something passed, even she had been there a short time, and said they were the last line of defense against electing socialists, and stopping Schumer's agenda.

Donald Trump spent more time talking about himself last night, and his own election from 2 months ago, than he spent talking about Perdue and Loeffler. Whenever Trump is stumping for another Republican candidate, he will always devote more time to talking about himself, than he will the other candidate at the rally. Self-absorption is ingrained into his nature. Donald Trump is egotistical to an extreme.

 

[1972 Grad]

Have you found a judge that will back up that claim? Get back to me when you do.

They all value the lives of their family too much.

 

[tnmarktx]

Pence gets rewarded for four years of loyalty by Trump falsely setting him up to be the bad guy. Nice.

Lol, Pence has a job and that job has responsibilities. It's a fact that certifying a fraudulent vote is a crime. I'd say Pence needs to do whatever he feels is right.

 

[Velo Vol]

Lol, Pence has a job and that job has responsibilities. It's a fact that certifying a fraudulent vote is a crime. I'd say Pence needs to do whatever he feels is right.

Whatever you think of the electors, Pence has no authority to "reject" any of them.

 

[1972 Grad]

Donald Trump spent more time talking about himself last night, and his own election from 2 months ago, than he spent talking about Perdue and Loeffler. Whenever Trump is stumping for another Republican candidate, he will always devote more time to talking about himself, than he will the other candidate at the rally. Self-absorption is ingrained into his nature. Donald Trump is egotistical to an extreme.

And?

 

[BowlBrother85]

And?

Why does there need to be more? That says enough.

 

[1972 Grad]

Why does there need to be more? That says enough.

Why don't you tell us something we don't know?

 

[BenGrimm]

They all value the lives of their family too much.

Then why do they keep pissing off right wing nut jobs who have a propensity for kidnappings and murder?

 

[BenGrimm]

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Trump has been in the gutter much longer than Pennywise.

 

[tnmarktx]

Whatever you think of the electors, Pence has no authority to "reject" any of them.

So if he feels they are illegal he still has to count? I would think there's an argument that he could refuse to count any electors. Are you allowed to be forced to do something against your will? It may be decided in court.

 

[tvolsfan]

So if he feels they are illegal he still has to count? I would think there's an argument that he could refuse to count any electors. Are you allowed to be forced to do something against your will? It may be decided in court.

His only role is to preside over the ceremony, since somebody has to do it. Some Republicans will throw a hissy fit, they will be voted down in both houses, and Trump will be on to his next conspiracy by night.

 

[Velo Vol]

So if he feels they are illegal he still has to count? I would think there's an argument that he could refuse to count any electors. Are you allowed to be forced to do something against your will? It may be decided in court.

If there's objections on the floor they go through the debate thing, but Pence doesn't have authority to decide what to count.

 

[BenGrimm]

So if he feels they are illegal he still has to count? I would think there's an argument that he could refuse to count any electors. Are you allowed to be forced to do something against your will? It may be decided in court.

It’s already been decided by the courts. No evidence of fraud.

Pence is too smart to attempt something so pointless. He’ll dance around the edges with vague statements of support for the Senators objecting so they can fund raise off the rubes but in the end he will count the electors in the traditional fashion and it will be over.

 

[tnmarktx]

If there's objections on the floor they go through the debate thing, but Pence doesn't have authority to decide what to count.

He does not have the right to count alternate electors, he might have the right to reject electors.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Lol, Pence has a job and that job has responsibilities. It's a fact that certifying a fraudulent vote is a crime. I'd say Pence needs to do whatever he feels is right.

You first have to prove that such a vote was fraudulent to begin with. Simply saying it, does not make it so. In the words of Judge Stephanos Bibas, from the Third Circuit Court of Appeals (who was appointed to the bench by President Donald Trump) :

"Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."

-- Judge Stepanos Bibas, from the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, a Trump appointee, while dismissing a case brought forth by legal representatives of the 2020 Trump Campaign.

 

[GSD82]

You first have to prove that such a vote was fraudulent to begin with. Simply saying it, does not make it so. In the words of Judge Stephanos Bibas, from the Third Circuit Court of Appeals (who was appointed to the bench by President Donald Trump) :

"Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."

-- Judge Stepanos Bibas, from the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, a Trump appointee, while dismissing a case brought forth by legal representatives of the 2020 Trump Campaign.

LOL your obsession with this judge is hilarious

 

[tnmarktx]

You first have to prove that such a vote was fraudulent to begin with. Simply saying it, does not make it so. In the words of Judge Stephanos Bibas, from the Third Circuit Court of Appeals (who was appointed to the bench by President Donald Trump) :

"Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."

-- Judge Stepanos Bibas, from the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, a Trump appointee, while dismissing a case brought forth by legal representatives of the 2020 Trump Campaign.

Simply saying it's not without allowing proof does not make it legal. A competent judge, no matter who appointed him, should know the difference.