28 signee rule clarification

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I think Chris Low has read VolNation a little too much. Sounds like something he got from LWSVOL, Sab, LV, and myself.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I think Chris Low has read VolNation a little too much. Sounds like something he got from LWSVOL, Sab, LV, and myself.
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Eric, does that surprise you? VN is the only place I need to go for the latest information about Tennessee...I appreciate everything that you, Larry, Sab, or LV bring to this forum...GBO!
 
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rote said:
eric, does that surprise you? vn is the only place i need to go for the latest information about tennessee...i appreciate everything that you, larry, sab, or lv bring to this forum...gbo!
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vn, b
 
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:) I'm a newbie at posting but have been reading this site for a while now. Thanks for the info.
 
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This is a fantastic and well-run website. Big ups to all of those that keep this place going...
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This rule makes early entrees really important.So, theoretically we could have had 36 guys in this class since we had 8 EE's ...?
 
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Lexvol said:
As long as we hadn't hit the 85, why not? Is the article incorrect?
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He stated it wrong, IMO. EE's are new scholarship players, and you can only put 25 new players on scholarship each year. You can back count to the last class, given if you don't hit the 25 that year. So, if we had only enrolled 20 last year, we could back count 5, which means we could sign a total of 30 and get them all in by fall. The 85 number is relative, but the way he stated it, he seemed to say that you could get 20 guys in and you could sign 28 more. That's completely wrong. You still have to hit your numbers, and you can only back count so many guys. The other one's do apply to the 25 that you can get in. Which means, we signed 25 total this year and back counted 2 of those guys, so it was 23 total new enrollees for 2010. Now, we could sign 27 total again, with 2 back counting to get to 25, but that's where the 85 number comes in. You can only hit 85 total, but there is always attrition each year. So, we will know by next December how many we can sign. I think it's going to be somewhere between 22-25 total for 2011.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
He stated it wrong, IMO. EE's are new scholarship players, and you can only put 25 new players on scholarship each year. You can back count to the last class, given if you don't hit the 25 that year. So, if we had only enrolled 20 last year, we could back count 5, which means we could sign a total of 30 and get them all in by fall. The 85 number is relative, but the way he stated it, he seemed to say that you could get 20 guys in and you could sign 28 more. That's completely wrong. You still have to hit your numbers, and you can only back count so many guys. The other one's do apply to the 25 that you can get in. Which means, we signed 25 total this year and back counted 2 of those guys, so it was 23 total new enrollees for 2010. Now, we could sign 27 total again, with 2 back counting to get to 25, but that's where the 85 number comes in. You can only hit 85 total, but there is always attrition each year. So, we will know by next December how many we can sign. I think it's going to be somewhere between 22-25 total for 2011.
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So his entire premise is incorrect and this is no real clarification at all.
 
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I am not real sure how it works anymore. I've always thought it was what eric is saying now, but Auburn signed 32 this year. Something isn't right.

I think we will be able to sign 28 with the 3 backcounts. Going to be alot of attrition imo.
 
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Lord Vader said:
I am not real sure how it works anymore. I've always thought it was what eric is saying now, but Auburn signed 32 this year. Something isn't right.

I think we will be able to sign 28 with the 3 backcounts. Going to be alot of attrition imo.
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I think we hit the 85 limit first. 81 on scholarship now. 16 seniors grad gives a limit of 20, which can be adjusted by guys leaving early, quitting, etc.
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Lord Vader said:
I am not real sure how it works anymore. I've always thought it was what eric is saying now, but Auburn signed 32 this year. Something isn't right.

I think we will be able to sign 28 with the 3 backcounts. Going to be alot of attrition imo.
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Ah, you think there will be enough losses to take 85 limit out of play? Didn't catch that first time I read.
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Volunteeer said:
I think we hit the 85 limit first. 81 on scholarship now. 16 seniors grad gives a limit of 20, which can be adjusted by guys leaving early, quitting, etc.
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The 85 limitation is easier to get around than the 25, I would think.

Next year our hard number is 27+3. We will be limited by 85, but that can be attained by pulling scholarships from guys that don't cut it by enrolling time in 2011.

I think USC's number was 17 this year because they were limited by the 85, but they signed 20. Either they greyshirt, sign and place, expect some attrition, or pull schollys, if 17 was their limit.
 
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well there is no getting around it, it's a hard rule, but your point that there may be attrition is what's mentioned above. We have 14 olinemen on the roster and no seniors. Don't typically carry more than 16/17. So if they go after a big number(4-5), that would seem to indicate some projects aren't working and some guys will be gone there.

Also be interesting to see what happens with any transfers. Are they coming on scholarship?

In any case, it seems that if we want to add more than approx 20 this year, cdd has got to subtract some.....

volstexans said:
The 85 limitation is easier to get around than the 25, I would think.

Next year our hard number is 27+3. We will be limited by 85, but that can be attained by pulling scholarships from guys that don't cut it by enrolling time in 2011.

I think USC's number was 17 this year because they were limited by the 85, but they signed 20. Either they greyshirt, sign and place, expect some attrition, or pull schollys, if 17 was their limit.
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