$31 Trillion Debt Ceiling

[theFallGuy]

Congrats we did it

U.S has hit the debt limit as Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen prepares 'extraordinary measures' | Daily Mail Online

 

[theFallGuy]

Beers on the house

 

[McDad]

Beers on the house

Have to be on the house. We sure as hell can't afford beer.

 

[utvolpj]

Why is this still a thing?

 

[hog88]

Why is this still a thing?

Just another tool used to divide the tribes.

 

[lawgator1]

Every party spends, every party complains about it. Nobody does anything.

We can't default of course but we have to find a way to stop rewarding local or singular constituencies through the public coffers.

 

[McDad]

If dollars were seconds, 31 trillion equates to 983,010 years.
If dollars were inches, 31 trillion equates to 489,267,677 miles ( a one way trip to Jupiter).

Every man, woman, and child in America owes about 94,000 each in American debt.
My household family owes a cumulative total of 376k.

America's debt in 2000 was 5.7 Trillion. Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden have all added 25 Trillion in 22 years.

Enjoy the future crash. And remember, the party you love (both R and D) are accountable for this. Well done, everybody.

 

[theFallGuy]

Have to be on the house. We sure as hell can't afford beer.

beer purchases are on credit

 

[hog88]

Every party spends, every party complains about it. Nobody does anything.

We can't default of course but we have to find a way to stop rewarding local or singular constituencies through the public coffers.

Easy. Scale back the federal government to it's constitutional limits.

 

[McDad]

Easy. Scale back the federal government to it's constitutional limits.

There a 21 people in America who want that to happen. 5 post in this forum.

For everyone else, this would be a coup-inducing event.

 

[hog88]

There a 21 people in America who want that to happen. 5 post in this forum.

For everyone else, this would be a coup-inducing event.

Then coup it is! The chickens have to come home to roost.

 

[theFallGuy]

Easy. Scale back the federal government to it's constitutional limits.

BUT WHERE WILL THESE PEOPLE GET JOBS I ASK????

 

[hog88]

BUT WHERE WILL THESE PEOPLE GET JOBS I ASK????

The local whore house.

 

[Vol8188]

Easy. Scale back the federal government to it's constitutional limits.

Does your version of that include elimination of a standing military?

 

[hog88]

Does your version of that include elimination of a standing military?

No because defense is one of the enumerated powers/responsibility. Could that be scaled back, of course.

 

[n_huffhines]

Congrats we did it

U.S has hit the debt limit as Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen prepares 'extraordinary measures' | Daily Mail Online

Hey, but at least we've had decades of pwning the ______ and shaming independents for wasting their votes, right?

 

[theFallGuy]

Does your version of that include elimination of a standing military?

No, it's one of the main things outlined in the Constitution. Having said that defense contracts for some of these corporations are absurd.

 

[Vol8188]

No, it's one of the main things outlined in the Constitution. Having said that defense contracts for some of these corporations are absurd.

The constitution strictly forbids a standing army

 

[hog88]

The constitution strictly forbids a standing army

That's not completely accurate.

On this day: Congress officially creates the U.S. Army | Constitution Center

 

[Vol8188]

That's not completely accurate.

On this day: Congress officially creates the U.S. Army | Constitution Center

I think it would be fair to say the intent of the 2 year limit was to prevent a standing military. I’d also argue one of the main reasons we have one now is Islam.

Has that Army been continuously refunded every 2 years since or have we had gaps without?

 

[hog88]

I think it would be fair to say the intent of the 2 year limit was to prevent a standing military. I’d also argue one of the main reasons we have one now is Islam.

Has that Army been continuously refunded every 2 years since or have we had gaps without?

I don't know, I think we have had a standing Army of some size since then

 

[McDad]

I think it would be fair to say the intent of the 2 year limit was to prevent a standing military. I’d also argue one of the main reasons we have one now is Islam.

Has that Army been continuously refunded every 2 years since or have we had gaps without?

This is not a notion I have a lot of familiarity with. I would enjoy understanding how you arrived at the general idea of the standing military.

 

[Vol8188]

This is not a notion I have a lot of familiarity with. I would enjoy understanding how you arrived at the general idea of the standing military.

Are you asking how I arrived at the idea that a standing army is a violation of the constitution?

 

[McDad]

Are you asking how I arrived at the idea that a standing army is a violation of the constitution?

In a way, yes, especially if you came to that on your own. If you were exposed to that by an author or constitutional expert, I am interested in that, too.

 

[Vol8188]

In a way, yes, especially if you came to that on your own. If you were exposed to that by an author or constitutional expert, I am interested in that, too.

I’m sure my view was influenced somewhere, but too far back to recall on that front. But my entire claim basically relies on two things: the fears of those writing the constitution that a standing army would be used by a tyrant to gain power and then the single line stating that any funding should be limited to 2 years (which can obviously just be extended, but I believe extension was only supposed to be as needed)