Relegation anybody?

[mudhen]

Since it seems that the " Big Dogs" are hell bent on running things, doesn't it make sense to start talking about relegation? As it stands, the rich are only going to get richer, financially and player-wise, and everyone else is left to fight over the scraps This is no different from the English Premier league, where the top five or six top squads run the show, the mid pack works hard to retain their place,( and money), and the bottom rung consists of plucky over achievers, fighting to stay in the big dogs club.

 

[Godfatha]

Since it seems that the " Big Dogs" are hell bent on running things, doesn't it make sense to start talking about relegation? As it stands, the rich are only going to get richer, financially and player-wise, and everyone else is left to fight over the scraps This is no different from the English Premier league, where the top five or six top squads run the show, the mid pack works hard to retain their place,( and money), and the bottom rung consists of plucky over achievers, fighting to stay in the big dogs club.

I've always like the thought of regulation European football style and fantasized how cool it would be, especially for something like MLB with their plethora of clubs over different levels, to have regulation.

But it would never work. And for college football regulation would just make the problem worse. Want to make it better? Tighten up the portal.

And to be honest, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State were stockpiling most of the talent before NIL was a consideration. It was getting boring before NIL.

 

[woodpusher]

Since it seems that the " Big Dogs" are hell bent on running things, doesn't it make sense to start talking about relegation? As it stands, the rich are only going to get richer, financially and player-wise, and everyone else is left to fight over the scraps This is no different from the English Premier league, where the top five or six top squads run the show, the mid pack works hard to retain their place,( and money), and the bottom rung consists of plucky over achievers, fighting to stay in the big dogs club.

2004 - Miami of Ohio -- computer models showed them to be the #6 team in Division I. Pollsters had them around #15.
But that was Ben Roethlisberger's senior year -- the next year they weren't that good (and neither were the other MAC schools that pulled upsets that year).

 

[#1fulmerite]

Since it seems that the " Big Dogs" are hell bent on running things, doesn't it make sense to start talking about relegation? As it stands, the rich are only going to get richer, financially and player-wise, and everyone else is left to fight over the scraps This is no different from the English Premier league, where the top five or six top squads run the show, the mid pack works hard to retain their place,( and money), and the bottom rung consists of plucky over achievers, fighting to stay in the big dogs club.

The best always get the best till they don’t. Except for Saban. My point is that the Ohio States and Michigan’s, even in NIL, will get the big dogs; for a while anyway. Look at Florida State, Miami, us (for a few years), Clemson etc. Though it’s a race to get the top talent, it will always rotate. Even with NIL.

I remember the competition to have better facilities than everyone else. Eventually, all major DI programs caught up. Well, according to Jimbo, Florida State didn’t.

 

[swampfoxfan]

The best always get the best till they don’t. Except for Saban. My point is that the Ohio States and Michigan’s, even in NIL, will get the big dogs; for a while anyway. Look at Florida State, Miami, us (for a few years), Clemson etc. Though it’s a race to get the top talent, it will always rotate. Even with NIL.

I remember the competition to have better facilities than everyone else. Eventually, all major DI programs caught up. Well, according to Jimbo, Florida State didn’t.

 

[Voltopia]

No athletic director at a Power 5 school with a top-tier brand would ever accept seeing their program "relegated."

And they'd be a damned fool if they did.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Oh NIL is gonna level the playing field. lol. Yeah no it hasn’t. The bottoms line is the top programs are gonna continue to get big time recruits and players. Saban leaves and did Bama drop off in recruiting? Not really.

 

[a vol n tears]

Build a winner, and they will come.

Start being so so and you start to struggle in recruiting. Start missing the playoffs and you stop recruiting big time players.

 

[J C Higgins]

Not sure relegation would help but the NFL has thrived because they recognized that regulation was the best way to equalize teams over time. That's the reason there are salary caps and the reverse order of draft picks. May not be a perfect system but it's better than having one or a few teams spending unlimited money to improve their roster year after year.

 

[AstonRoyal]

None of that is gonna matter unless there are some restrictions on spending. In europe for example , the premier league and UEFA have rules in place that you can only spend a percentage of the revenue in place.

 

[DaddyChad]

College football is dead as we knew it. Money was running college football before NIL; the ncaa was just deciding who could spend it. Now the government is becoming involved in “fixing” the problem?

 

[ftsandersvol]

Wherever there’s a free flow of money you can bet there are some government officials that want a piece of that pie.

 

[Vol865]

There is zero reason we shouldn't be in that first group. If we aren't, we're choosing not to be.

 

[VolBallGuy]

There is essentially relegation in MLB baseball. If you don’t have a $300 million payroll you are relegated to the non-championship contenders now. There is that big of a gap. Very sad to see they have let it go that far.

 

[njvols]

Since it seems that the " Big Dogs" are hell bent on running things, doesn't it make sense to start talking about relegation? As it stands, the rich are only going to get richer, financially and player-wise, and everyone else is left to fight over the scraps This is no different from the English Premier league, where the top five or six top squads run the show, the mid pack works hard to retain their place,( and money), and the bottom rung consists of plucky over achievers, fighting to stay in the big dogs club.

Correct, it's what it's always been...but the wealth is definitely being spread, and if a team w/ moderate NIL, who has been a traditional under achiever, like Ole Miss...if they get the right coach, they can be in the mix alot quicker. I think that's the main difference. I thought NIL/Transfer portal would elevate us a little faster if I'm being honest.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

There is zero reason we shouldn't be in that first group. If we aren't, we're choosing not to be.

lol. You really think we are choosing to not have top flight recruiting classes???

 

[Vol865]

lol. You really think we are choosing to not have top flight recruiting classes???

Yes. You think we aren't when we split a large sum of money between other sports?

 

[Brave Volunteer]

lol. You really think we are choosing to not have top flight recruiting classes???

In a round about way, yes. Our staff has a recruiting deficiency somewhere. If its strictly because of NIL, then our boosters are choosing not to pony up the amount it takes to get the top players. If its because our staff isn't comprised of strong, dynamic recruiters and players arent connecting with them, its because Huepel is choosing not to strengthen his staff with guys who fit that role. If its because Huepel himself is a high floor/low ceiling coach, we'll thats on Danny White to determine if a change should be made to try and elevate us higher.

We are not Mississppi State or South Carolina g-damnit! We are Tennessee and we ARE a top program if we choose to be!

 

[Nico ee-ah-MAH-LAY-ah-va]

lol. You really think we are choosing to not have top flight recruiting classes???

Its more complicated than how most folks discuss it here, but we do have a lot of money to spend but are more of a tier 2 compared to the Texas & Ohio State type funds. We also prioritize spreading money around to basketball, baseball, and some to women's sports more than others.

Danny has made it clear that he wants the Power T shown all year. That is the best case scenario for him. Championships are gravy, but the real driver for our AD is having us be relevant in all major sports.

 

[Nico ee-ah-MAH-LAY-ah-va]

Relegation will never work in the US. I like the system for college sports, but I am not sure the majority of the fanbase in this country would 1. understand how it works and 2. be happy their team was relegated to play UAB instead of Alabama this year.