PFF total season snaps and overall PFF grade

[Freak]

I saw this posted by Grant Ramey and thought it was pretty interesting. Keep in mind...

The PFF rating system works like this:

100 to 90 is elite
89 to 85 as a pro bowler
84 to 70 is a starter
69 to 60 is a backup
59 down to zero is replaceable.

Your thoughts? What stands out to you (good or bad)?

Tennessee Offense​

Player	Snaps (Min. 35)	Overall PFF Grade
Joey Aguilar	626	88.6
Jake Merklinger	52	82.6
DeSean Bishop	284	81.4
Star Thomas	197	80.5
Chris Brazzell II	558	79.1
Daune Morris	35	78.3
Radarious Jackson	43	77.9
Peyton Lewis	148	74.0
Wendell Moe Jr.	627	72.9
Braylon Staley	530	71.3
Jesse Perry	531	67.9
Lance Heard	621	66.9
Mike Matthews	563	66.7
David Sanders Jr.	216	64.6
Sam Pendleton	562	63.5
Ethan Davis	165	62.4
Miles Kitselman	496	62.0
Shamurad Umarov	507	60.9
Bennett Warren	64	60.0
DaSaahn Brame	37	57.4
Joakim Dodson	45	55.7
Trey Weary	35	54.6
Travis Smith Jr.	82	54.2
Brian Grant	63	53.6
Max Anderson	66	52.4
William Satterwhite	116	51.6
Jack Van Dorselaer	143	47.6
Antoni Ogumoro	66	43.4

Tennessee Defense​

Player	Snap Count (Min. 15)	Overall PFF Grade
Joshua Josephs	311	81.7
Colton Hood	590	79.3
Jordan Ross	206	78.4
Edwin Spillman	386	76.9
Tyre West	193	73.8
Edrees Farooq	518	72.9
Dominic Bailey	394	72.7
Isaiah Campbell	72	72.3
Jalen McMurray	387	72.3
Ty Redmond	563	70.7
Tyree Weathersby	182	70.0
Bryson Eason	371	69.8
Mariyon Dye	64	69.0
Carson Gentle	33	68.3
Nathan Robinson	214	68.3
Boo Carter	239	67.1
Kaleb Beasley	190	67.1
Jeremiah Telander	372	66.1
Ben Bolton	81	65.7
William Wright	133	65.2
Arion Carter	389	64.3
Jaxson Moi	190	63.8
Daevin Hobbs	123	63.6
Jamal Wallace	71	62.0
Jadon Perlotte	94	61.8
Sidney Walton	102	60.9
Jaedon Harmon	64	60.7
Andre Turrentine	576	59.8
Caleb Herring	211	59.4
Timothy Merritt	27	52.5
Rickey Gibson III	19	50.4
Josh Schell	17	49.2
Ethan Utley	84	48.5
Jordan Burns	27	46.5
Tre Poteat	38	44.6
Brenden Anes	25	33.8

 

[goldvol]

that checks out. 10 "starters" on offense, and 11 starters on defense.
Aguilar with the highest grade is amazing, and I am amazed at what he has done this year.

 

[ursaminotaur]

that checks out. 10 "starters" on offense, and 11 starters on defense.
Aguilar with the highest grade is amazing, and I am amazed at what he has done this year.

Exactly. We have a legitimate starting lineup on both sides and nothing special behind them for depth. Almost no elite players on either side.

 

[jeff1vol]

What's worse is that the highest defensive grade is basically average. We've gotta have an upgrade in defensive talent.

 

[Freak]

What's worse is that the highest defensive grade is basically average. We've gotta have an upgrade in defensive talent.

82 is three points shy of pro bowler. Not sure how that would be considered average. Besides quarterback, the offense doesn't have anyone rated higher.

 

[Peradox1K]

I saw this posted by Grant Ramey and thought it was pretty interesting. Keep in mind...

The PFF rating system works like this:

100 to 90 is elite
89 to 85 as a pro bowler
84 to 70 is a starter
69 to 60 is a backup
59 down to zero is replaceable.

Your thoughts? What stands out to you (good or bad)?

Tennessee Offense​

Player	Snaps (Min. 35)	Overall PFF Grade
Joey Aguilar	626	88.6
Jake Merklinger	52	82.6
DeSean Bishop	284	81.4
Star Thomas	197	80.5
Chris Brazzell II	558	79.1
Daune Morris	35	78.3
Radarious Jackson	43	77.9
Peyton Lewis	148	74.0
Wendell Moe Jr.	627	72.9
Braylon Staley	530	71.3
Jesse Perry	531	67.9
Lance Heard	621	66.9
Mike Matthews	563	66.7
David Sanders Jr.	216	64.6
Sam Pendleton	562	63.5
Ethan Davis	165	62.4
Miles Kitselman	496	62.0
Shamurad Umarov	507	60.9
Bennett Warren	64	60.0
DaSaahn Brame	37	57.4
Joakim Dodson	45	55.7
Trey Weary	35	54.6
Travis Smith Jr.	82	54.2
Brian Grant	63	53.6
Max Anderson	66	52.4
William Satterwhite	116	51.6
Jack Van Dorselaer	143	47.6
Antoni Ogumoro	66	43.4

Tennessee Defense​

Player	Snap Count (Min. 15)	Overall PFF Grade
Joshua Josephs	311	81.7
Colton Hood	590	79.3
Jordan Ross	206	78.4
Edwin Spillman	386	76.9
Tyre West	193	73.8
Edrees Farooq	518	72.9
Dominic Bailey	394	72.7
Isaiah Campbell	72	72.3
Jalen McMurray	387	72.3
Ty Redmond	563	70.7
Tyree Weathersby	182	70.0
Bryson Eason	371	69.8
Mariyon Dye	64	69.0
Carson Gentle	33	68.3
Nathan Robinson	214	68.3
Boo Carter	239	67.1
Kaleb Beasley	190	67.1
Jeremiah Telander	372	66.1
Ben Bolton	81	65.7
William Wright	133	65.2
Arion Carter	389	64.3
Jaxson Moi	190	63.8
Daevin Hobbs	123	63.6
Jamal Wallace	71	62.0
Jadon Perlotte	94	61.8
Sidney Walton	102	60.9
Jaedon Harmon	64	60.7
Andre Turrentine	576	59.8
Caleb Herring	211	59.4
Timothy Merritt	27	52.5
Rickey Gibson III	19	50.4
Josh Schell	17	49.2
Ethan Utley	84	48.5
Jordan Burns	27	46.5
Tre Poteat	38	44.6
Brenden Anes	25	33.8

Why Boo Carter is above Arion Carter and Caleb Herring is something I'll never be able to answer

 

[Orangesmokey]

Why Boo Carter is above Arion Carter and Caleb Herring is something I'll never be able to answer

What about Telander being above A. Carter? That's shocking to me.

 

[Peradox1K]

What about Telander being above A. Carter? That's shocking to me.

That's also shocking. But Boo needs to be like a 10, except for the UAB game, the only time he seemed starter-caliber.

 

[Orangesmokey]

That's also shocking. But Boo needs to be like a 10, except for the UAB game, the only time he seemed starter-caliber.

Boo has all the talent in the world. I just think his mind is elsewhere. I don't think his heart is in it this year. His effort has not been what you expect from someone with that kind of talent. I would love to see him be successful just because his from Chattanooga and we don't typically have too many players in this area that make it D1.

 

[Peradox1K]

Boo has all the talent in the world. I just think his mind is elsewhere. I don't think his heart is in it this year. His effort has not been what you expect from someone with that kind of talent. I would love to see him be successful just because his from Chattanooga and we don't typically have too many players in this area that make it D1.

Oh, for sure he has the talent. He just doesn't want to put the work and stays on the field by ass-kissing the coaches. It's pretty clear to me.

 

[GBO128]

Not piling on the kid. I am sure he works his tail off and does everything right. But Turrentine having 550+ snaps and a sub 60 grade is our biggest defensive issue, in my opinion. And the fact that we didn’t go hard at safety in the portal last year to address that is being felt throughout the defense.

 

[bigorangepoppa]

Boo has all the talent in the world. I just think his mind is elsewhere. I don't think his heart is in it this year. His effort has not been what you expect from someone with that kind of talent. I would love to see him be successful just because his from Chattanooga and we don't typically have too many players in this area that make it D1.

If you want more evidence of Boo's potential, go back and watch his tape his freshman year, then watch his tape for this year. There is no question that he is just going through the motions, with no desire to do better.

I hate saying this, but he is a cancer on the team. If he were playing with the same intensity he played with last year, how many secondary guys might have been where they needed to be if Boo were doing his job?

 

[casual-observer]

If you want more evidence of Boo's potential, go back and watch his tape his freshman year, then watch his tape for this year. There is no question that he is just going through the motions, with no desire to do better.

I hate saying this, but he is a cancer on the team. If he were playing with the same intensity he played with last year, how many secondary guys might have been where they needed to be if Boo were doing his job?

I just posted this thought on another thread but...

What if the defense balls out the remaining three games? And it turns out the defensive woes all along were on a checked-out-mentally Boo Carter?!?!

 

[Orangesmokey]

I just posted this thought on another thread but...

What if the defense balls out the remaining three games? And it turns out the defensive woes all along were on a checked-out-mentally Boo Carter?!?!

I think Boo being checked out would effect plays he was in but I don't think you could blame a majority of the defensive issues on him

 

[casual-observer]

I think Boo being checked out would effect plays he was in but I don't think you could blame a majority of the defensive issues on him

I agree with you and am just thinking out loud. What if Tennessee has essentially been fielding a '10 man defense' all season long? I think I've seen Boo beat on quite a few plays and giving up assignments.

I think it would also be interesting to see his PFF grades from last year to see if he as digressed. Remember when it was exciting to see him field a punt last year? This year he is averaging 13.2 yards per return. Last year it was 16.5.

 

[Sarms58]

Thanks Freak - I’ve pulled up the individual games but it’s great to see the cumulative numbers!

 

[MiramarVol]

The OL are all considered "replaceable." Crazy that a good majority of the defense is all below 70.

 

[GAVol]

Not piling on the kid. I am sure he works his tail off and does everything right. But Turrentine having 550+ snaps and a sub 60 grade is our biggest defensive issue, in my opinion. And the fact that we didn’t go hard at safety in the portal last year to address that is being felt throughout the defense.

Unfortunately true. Safety play has killed us.

 

[Skooter]

Can’t always blame the players for their defensive grades if they aren’t consistently put in position to make plays that need to be made, and our lbs are constantly put in bad positions which put them in their heels and creates more bad angles.
Easy example is our high ranking in getting into 3rd and 7+ but our near last ranking in stopping 3rd and 7+. Players were good the first two downs but forget how to play on 3rd? Its not Arion or Telanders fault the call is to run to a spot behind the sticks at the snap.

 

[CINCYVOL]

Why Boo Carter is above Arion Carter and Caleb Herring is something I'll never be able to answer

Smaller sample size, don’t make as many mistakes if you don’t try and tackle, or make a play

 

[Rickyvol77]

I saw this posted by Grant Ramey and thought it was pretty interesting. Keep in mind...

The PFF rating system works like this:

100 to 90 is elite
89 to 85 as a pro bowler
84 to 70 is a starter
69 to 60 is a backup
59 down to zero is replaceable.

Your thoughts? What stands out to you (good or bad)?

Tennessee Offense​

Player	Snaps (Min. 35)	Overall PFF Grade
Joey Aguilar	626	88.6
Jake Merklinger	52	82.6
DeSean Bishop	284	81.4
Star Thomas	197	80.5
Chris Brazzell II	558	79.1
Daune Morris	35	78.3
Radarious Jackson	43	77.9
Peyton Lewis	148	74.0
Wendell Moe Jr.	627	72.9
Braylon Staley	530	71.3
Jesse Perry	531	67.9
Lance Heard	621	66.9
Mike Matthews	563	66.7
David Sanders Jr.	216	64.6
Sam Pendleton	562	63.5
Ethan Davis	165	62.4
Miles Kitselman	496	62.0
Shamurad Umarov	507	60.9
Bennett Warren	64	60.0
DaSaahn Brame	37	57.4
Joakim Dodson	45	55.7
Trey Weary	35	54.6
Travis Smith Jr.	82	54.2
Brian Grant	63	53.6
Max Anderson	66	52.4
William Satterwhite	116	51.6
Jack Van Dorselaer	143	47.6
Antoni Ogumoro	66	43.4

Tennessee Defense​

Player	Snap Count (Min. 15)	Overall PFF Grade
Joshua Josephs	311	81.7
Colton Hood	590	79.3
Jordan Ross	206	78.4
Edwin Spillman	386	76.9
Tyre West	193	73.8
Edrees Farooq	518	72.9
Dominic Bailey	394	72.7
Isaiah Campbell	72	72.3
Jalen McMurray	387	72.3
Ty Redmond	563	70.7
Tyree Weathersby	182	70.0
Bryson Eason	371	69.8
Mariyon Dye	64	69.0
Carson Gentle	33	68.3
Nathan Robinson	214	68.3
Boo Carter	239	67.1
Kaleb Beasley	190	67.1
Jeremiah Telander	372	66.1
Ben Bolton	81	65.7
William Wright	133	65.2
Arion Carter	389	64.3
Jaxson Moi	190	63.8
Daevin Hobbs	123	63.6
Jamal Wallace	71	62.0
Jadon Perlotte	94	61.8
Sidney Walton	102	60.9
Jaedon Harmon	64	60.7
Andre Turrentine	576	59.8
Caleb Herring	211	59.4
Timothy Merritt	27	52.5
Rickey Gibson III	19	50.4
Josh Schell	17	49.2
Ethan Utley	84	48.5
Jordan Burns	27	46.5
Tre Poteat	38	44.6
Brenden Anes	25	33.8

Good accurate example of our talent....Some great first string players and the need to build more depth.

Once those sanctions run out, and not so many injuries next season hopefully, that will be a positive

 

[jeff1vol]

82 is three points shy of pro bowler. Not sure how that would be considered average. Besides quarterback, the offense doesn't have anyone rated higher.

You got a point. But there's a BIG jump between being the average starter and a Pro-Bowler, IMO. Is the "pro bowler" the same as "All American" in college? I'm assuming so.

 

[Peradox1K]

You got a point. But there's a BIG jump between being the average starter and a Pro-Bowler, IMO. Is the "pro bowler" the same as "All American" in college? I'm assuming so.

Yeah, about the same. Pro Bowler is the NFL's All-American without 2nd team and Preseason All-Americans

 

[marcusluvsvols]

PFF grades are always interesting but not always accurate. They are to be taken with a grain of salt. Just like us, the guys reviewing the tape dont know exactly which play is called on offense, which hot route WRs were supposed to run in response to the defense look, the exact blocking scheme assigned on a given play, on defense who was supposed to cover whom OR where exactly they were supposed to be in a zone, which defensive coverage was originally called OR audibled changes made when seeing the offensive personnel, what changes were supposed to take place when a certain player went in motion etc etc.

I played ball all the way through HS and still dont know all this either for a bunch of reasons except for when its obvious. Mainly due to the fact that we dont know what instructions were given/play or formation was called on the sideline...we dont know who was told to blitz or run a "hot" route at the last minute, and most importantly we arent allowed at practice to know how each play or technique, to know who's responsible for what etc. The guys at PFF that review ALL the FBS AND NFL games every week don't know ANY of that stuff either. They run through the TV footage for the games and quickly grade each player on every play at BEST. Not even sure they take the time to do that based on the limited info they give. They damn sure dont spend 10 minutes on each play of every game trying their best to actually figure out all the things listed above...half of which is unknowable by anyone except our own coaches as it pertains to UT football.

Keep in mind that even CJH most often responds " I am not sure what happened on that play, I haven't seen the tape yet." When asked what went wrong on a given play in the postgame press conferences. Even he wants to really study each play and know exactly what the responsibilities were.. audibles called...against which opponent formations and plays etc before making a comment. He cant tell at a glance and he calls the plays from his playbook on offense. To think someone from PFF who doesnt give even half a damn about our team, coaches, players etc can accurately do so at a glance is irrational. PFF is good for getting a rough idea of how a player is doing over time. Even in that they struggle. Their player grades are not very accurate week to week so they can't be very accurate all year either. They are best for keeping up with drops, snaps played, sacks and TFLs...missed tackles too. Thats about it IMO. We put a couple DTackles in the NFL last year which they graded out poorly on a regular basis.

 

[orangebloodgmc]

What about Telander being above A. Carter? That's shocking to me.

Maybe it includes a fair amount of A.Carter trying to play hurt?