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Its hard to think of the last really successful college QB who was successful in the NFL. Those records are Ken Dorsey's and Matt Leinart's, respectively.
 
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(therealUT @ Apr 28 said:
Its hard to think of the last really successful college QB who was successful in the NFL. Those records are Ken Dorsey's and Matt Leinart's, respectively.
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Carson Palmer is on a pretty good track. Michael Vick, while still developing in the NFL, had a good college career. Drew Brees had a very solid college career.
 
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Agree with you concerning Palmer, however, the verdict is still far from being in on Vick and Drew Brees went 24-13 at Purdue.
 
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(therealUT @ Apr 28 said:
Its hard to think of the last really successful college QB who was successful in the NFL. Those records are Ken Dorsey's and Matt Leinart's, respectively.
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But ken dorsey wasn't even respected as a good nfl type qb. he has no arm what so ever and could barley throw 40 yards. Lineart has it all and even though you may think the offensive talent around him is great, lineart made some of those recivers look like all americans. shoot look at Willams, he is a potential bust in the nfl and everyone is saying he made lineart good his sophmore year.
 
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(vols2345 @ Apr 28 said:
But ken dorsey wasn't even respected as a good nfl type qb. he has no arm what so ever and could barley throw 40 yards. Lineart has it all and even though you may think the offensive talent around him is great, lineart made some of those recivers look like all americans. shoot look at Willams, he is a potential bust in the nfl and everyone is saying he made lineart good his sophmore year.
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A lot of analysts seem to be saying the same things about Leinart.
 
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(therealUT @ Apr 28 said:
Its hard to think of the last really successful college QB who was successful in the NFL. Those records are Ken Dorsey's and Matt Leinart's, respectively.
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Depends on how you define successful. Tom Brady and Carson Palmer come to mind when I think about college QB's who have had good success at both levels. Palmer hasn't been around that long, but he is developing into a really good QB. Peyton Manning was successful in college unless you count the fact he didn't beat Florida or win a NC. But not many QB's can say that.

I know what you are saying though. NC winning QBs generally do not burn it up in the pros. You can almost say the same thing for Heisman trophy winners of any position, as well.

 
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Jake Plummer and Brian Griese who have been fairly successful at both levels. I'm not totally sold on Jake Plummer, though.
 
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(JasonCajun @ Apr 28 said:
Depends on how you define successful. Tom Brady and Carson Palmer come to mind when I think about college QB's who have had good success at both levels. Palmer hasn't been around that long, but he is developing into a really good QB. Peyton Manning was successful in college unless you count the fact he didn't beat Florida or win a NC. But not many QB's can say that.

I know what you are saying though. NC winning QBs generally do not burn it up in the pros. You can almost say the same thing for Heisman trophy winners of any position, as well.
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It just seems as though for every Peyton Manning there is are multitudes of Trent Greens, Tom Bradys, and Matt Hasselbacks. Heck, Tom Brady played the role of Rick Clausen during his senior year at Michigan.
 
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(therealUT @ Apr 28 said:
It just seems as though for every Peyton Manning there is are multitudes of Trent Greens, Tom Bradys, and Matt Hasselbacks. Heck, Tom Brady played the role of Rick Clausen during his senior year at Michigan.
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According to Wikipedia, "Brady battled for the first string quarterback position with Drew Henson and ultimately started every game in the 1998 and 1999 seasons under Michigan head coach Lloyd Carr. He was All-Big Ten both seasons and team captain his senior year. The Wolverines won 20 of 25 games when Brady started and shared the Big Ten Conference title in 1998."

So I would say he was a pretty successful QB in college.

Still, you're right. Chad Pennington, Ben Roethslburger (sp? :), Brett Favre, Kurt Warner could be added to your list as well.
 
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(therealUT @ Apr 28 said:
A lot of analysts seem to be saying the same things about Leinart.
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If they have I haven't heard it... Besides I have seen him thrown 40 yard strikes before.... just ask notre dame if he can throw.
 
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(JasonCajun @ Apr 28 said:
According to Wikipedia, "Brady battled for the first string quarterback position with Drew Henson and ultimately started every game in the 1998 and 1999 seasons under Michigan head coach Lloyd Carr. He was All-Big Ten both seasons and team captain his senior year. The Wolverines won 20 of 25 games when Brady started and shared the Big Ten Conference title in 1998."

So I would say he was a pretty successful QB in college.

Still, you're right. Chad Pennington, Ben Roethslburger (sp? :), Brett Favre, Kurt Warner could be added to your list as well.
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Look at the records of Chad Pennington and Ben Roethlisburger's teams in college. They were wildly successful. Also, other than fooling the Jets into wildly overpaying him, what real success has Chad Pennington had in the NFL?
 
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(hatvol96 @ Apr 28 said:
Look at the records of Chad Pennington and Ben Roethlisburger's teams in college. They were wildly successful. Also, other than fooling the Jets into wildly overpaying him, what real success has Chad Pennington had in the NFL?
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Noone had ever heard of Big Ben until he got to the Steelers and did well as a rookie. Miami of Ohio is not a big time school. Pennington did have success at Marshall, but Randy Moss was the guy getting all the credit. As far as Pennington in the NFL, he has a 92.1 QB rating and has led the Jets deep into the playoffs.
 
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(JasonCajun @ Apr 28 said:
Noone had ever heard of Big Ben until he got to the Steelers and did well as a rookie. Miami of Ohio is not a big time school. Pennington did have success at Marshall, but Randy Moss was the guy getting all the credit. As far as Pennington in the NFL, he has a 92.1 QB rating and has led the Jets deep into the playoffs.
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Actually I think alot of people knew her Big Ben was.... I could be wrong, but alot of people follow the mid major conferences to see who the next great player out of there is...
 
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(JasonCajun @ Apr 28 said:
Noone had ever heard of Big Ben until he got to the Steelers and did well as a rookie. Miami of Ohio is not a big time school. Pennington did have success at Marshall, but Randy Moss was the guy getting all the credit. As far as Pennington in the NFL, he has a 92.1 QB rating and has led the Jets deep into the playoffs.
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Pennington has never been to the AFC championship game. I wouldn't consider winning a game in the Wildcard round getting a team deep into the playoffs.
 
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(JasonCajun @ Apr 28 said:
Noone had ever heard of Big Ben until he got to the Steelers and did well as a rookie. Miami of Ohio is not a big time school. Pennington did have success at Marshall, but Randy Moss was the guy getting all the credit. As far as Pennington in the NFL, he has a 92.1 QB rating and has led the Jets deep into the playoffs.
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Anyone who really follows college football had heard of Roethlisburger.
 
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I really follow college football and I hadn't heard of him until he was a rookie with the Steelers. Granted, I don't follow mid major schools. If you asked average Joe college football fan who he was back then, I bet you wouldn't have gotten many positive responses.
 
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