Playoff Only - End All Other Bowl Games

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It’s time to move to a real college football playoff similar to March Madness.

The players don’t care about the bowl games. The fans don’t care. No one wants to watch the meaningless garbage bowls.

Enough already. Go to a full playoff and be done with it. Maybe do a 16 team playoff but take the Top 20 teams and have play-in games for bottom 4 slots. I don’t know. Just make it happen.
 
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I have gotten to were I don't care about the bowls. I like the 12 game playoff but the way they have it set up is pathetic. Having a James Madison and Tulane in instead of ND, BYU, and even Vandy is a joke even though I don't like any of them. It should be the top 12 teams.....Period. No conference champ crap.
 
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Some of them have 5 people at the game
Do your research each bowl game brings in lots of money. I do agree with you on this.....
End conference championship games and expand playoff to 16 or 20 teams and use some of the lesser bowls as the first round for the playoffs. People will actually care about them again
 
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I have gotten to were I don't care about the bowls. I like the 12 game playoff but the way they have it set up is pathetic. Having a James Madison and Tulane in instead of ND, BYU, and even Vandy is a joke even though I don't like any of them. It should be the top 12 teams.....Period. No conference champ crap.
I agree. Tulane and James Madison were stupid picks. Oregon will blow out JM. And Ole Miss beat Tulane 42-10 in the regular season. And we get a rematch for the playoffs? Vandy, ND, Texas, BYU, etc are far better matchups. This is just stupid.
 
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Any bowl game outside the playoffs is now about as relevant as spats, dial telephones, bustles, or stovepipe hats.
Can't wait to see the vast majority of them become as extinct as the dodo bird.
 
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They will need more than 12 teams in the playoffs to make up for lost revenue and impact generated from the bowl games.

With an extended playoff, teams that win will play multiple games, extending the time spent by coaches, players and other staff costing the university's A.D. more money. You also have the issue of what fans can afford if the team plays multiple games. Most fans will probably not be able to attend multiple games - I know last year before we lost to OSU, I knew I would have to bypass a couple of games if Tennessee keep winning and roll the dice on them playing the next one.

The bowl games other than the playoffs are 1 and done for the coaches, players and fans. The communities pull in sponsors to assist with the cost of hosting the events. These communities' profit from hotels, food, entertainment for the fans that travel. That makes them more cost effective though all of them do not make money. TV revenue is also a big factor.

If you add more teams to the playoffs to help, make up the lost revenue, the games will need to be closer together and will feel like just extended football Saturdays so some of the things that help with costs for the bowl games will not be in play. Keeping the connection to the bowls and spreading out the games help by having the sponsorship.

I believe you probably go to a format where most of the games would be played on college campuses which removes the "neutral site" that a bowl game brings to the table with only maybe the semis and final at a pre-defined location.

But bottom line to address the revenue issue you need to account for the number of games that will generate the same revenue. 11 games is not going to be enough - you will need double maybe even triple that. That still doesn't address the loss revenue to the communities - that is just gone.
 
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I LOVE the Bowl Games. I’ve been to most everyone UT has participated in since 1979. Good times and awesome memories! Go Vols! 🧡
I do too. I think for the games that aren't connected to the playoffs that folks just need to get back to the purpose of those.

Even before the playoffs, every year only a couple of bowl games determined who was crowned NC. The rest were built around celebrating the season and having a good time in a new place.
 
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1.) 16 teams. No byes!

2.) The 4 power conference champs get automatic bids, regardless of record (being conference champion HAS to mean something). Remaining 12 get in, based on ranking, and then all 16 teams are seeded.

3.) Top 8 seeds host bottom 8 in the 1st round.

4.) Rounds 2-4 are played in the 6 major bowls + either a separate championship bowl or let in one more existing bowl as the 7th major bowl (probably Citrus). The bowls will rotate rounds and championship game each year.

5.) Notre Dame MUST join a damn conference! Absolutely non-negotiable if they want to make the playoffs (The Big 10 would probably be the best fit).

6.) And finally, absolutely no Gof5 teams! Create a separate Gof5 playoff and championship game! Give those players something to play for that's actually attainable! Not fools gold thats just going to get them murdered in the first round! It would create great matchups and produce some very entertaining football! Hell, I would watch it no question!
 
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It’s time to move to a real college football playoff similar to March Madness.

The players don’t care about the bowl games. The fans don’t care. No one wants to watch the meaningless garbage bowls.

Enough already. Go to a full playoff and be done with it. Maybe do a 16 team playoff but take the Top 20 teams and have play-in games for bottom 4 slots. I don’t know. Just make it happen.
Nobody cares? My wife and I (at her prompting) decided last year that we were going to go to the Pop Tarts Bowl regardless of the teams playing just because it looks fun. She thought it would be a pleasant trip to get away from the Colorado cold for a few days. We fly out Christmas Day.
 
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What I hate more then "meaningless" bowl games is no football. We already have to wait 8 1/2 months between seasons. An easy fix for those who hate the bowl games, think they are meaningless, and want them to end would be to just ignore them and move on with your lives once the regular season is over. Anyone who feels their team's season is over as soon as they are no longer in contention for the playoffs could stop watching once that point is reached.
 
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Some of us have been hoodwinked by ESPN and other corporate powers into believing a larger playoff is a better thing.

But harken back to its original intent: to find the best team in the country, proven on the field.

How many teams do we honestly believe COULD be the best team in the country each year? There might be three or four, normally. In a really competitive and balanced year, you could make a case for six or even eight. No more than that.

So we don't need a 12-team playoff. We don't need a 16, or a 24, or a 48. That's just feeding lesser competitors to the handful who really have a shot, creating drama when football does what football does and some clearly inferior underdog pulls the upset, and--significantly--lining the pockets of ESPN and the rest.

I know it's fighting an uphill battle, even a hopeless one, but I'll keep arguing for 8. That's the right number.

And who knows, if we'd stuck to 8 or fewer, perhaps the other bowls wouldn't have lost their cachet so completely.

Go Vols!
 
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Some of us have been hoodwinked by ESPN and other corporate powers into believing a larger playoff is a better thing.

But harken back to its original intent: to find the best team in the country, proven on the field.

How many teams do we honestly believe COULD be the best team in the country each year? There might be three or four, normally. In a really competitive and balanced year, you could make a case for six or even eight. No more than that.

So we don't need a 12-team playoff. We don't need a 16, or a 24, or a 48. That's just feeding lesser competitors to the handful who really have a shot, creating drama when football does what football does and some clearly inferior underdog pulls the upset, and--significantly--lining the pockets of ESPN and the rest.

I know it's fighting an uphill battle, even a hopeless one, but I'll keep arguing for 8. That's the right number.

And who knows, if we'd stuck to 8 or fewer, perhaps the other bowls wouldn't have lost their cachet so completely.

Go Vols!
I actually agree with most of this, and it’s why I don’t really understand all the gnashing of teeth over JMU and Tulane getting a spot in the current format. Sure, there’s almost no chance they win a game, much less the whole thing, but it’s also not as if they’ve taken a spot from another who really earned a shot at a NC. If the playoff is going to be this big, what is really the harm in setting aside a couple spots for teams who actually won something during the season?

I know the ship has sailed, but I wish we could somehow just get the teams back into 8 REGIONAL conferences, and then throw the 8 winners of those conferences into a postseason tournament each December. No more of this nonsense with selection committees, computer rankings, and at-large bids for also rans. The formula for qualifying would be simple; win your conference or be left out.
 
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